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When will PS3 overtake 360 in total sales?

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Permanently in 2014 (Won... 79 14.85%
 
Temp in 2013, and 2014, Perm in 2015 23 4.32%
 
Temp in 2014, Perm in 2015 29 5.45%
 
Permanently in 2015 (Won... 3 0.56%
 
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Temp in 2015, Perm in 2016 3 0.56%
 
Some point after 2016, bu... 10 1.88%
 
It won't, sales for both... 27 5.08%
 
It won't, 360 will hold ... 122 22.93%
 
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postofficebuddy said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
i'm doubtful of 2013-2015. i just don't see 360 declining enough for that to happen. maybe 2015 pending Sony PS3 sales stay 1m a head of 360.

yea by the by. PS3 finished 600k a head of 360 for 2012.


Hmm? Probably going to be more like 1.3-1.5 million.

typo. i meant 2011 lol.



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MARCUSDJACKSON said:
postofficebuddy said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
i'm doubtful of 2013-2015. i just don't see 360 declining enough for that to happen. maybe 2015 pending Sony PS3 sales stay 1m a head of 360.

yea by the by. PS3 finished 600k a head of 360 for 2012.


Hmm? Probably going to be more like 1.3-1.5 million.

typo. i meant 2011 lol.

Which given Microsoft's PR last year (claimed they sold the most WW) means we clearly undertracked the 360 last year yet that never got adjusted up.  Perhaps thats why they've been stealth adjusting weekly this year in the US (showing overtracked) and why the figures aren't as close as they usually are to NPD as they make up for cocking up last year. 



slowmo said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
postofficebuddy said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
i'm doubtful of 2013-2015. i just don't see 360 declining enough for that to happen. maybe 2015 pending Sony PS3 sales stay 1m a head of 360.

yea by the by. PS3 finished 600k a head of 360 for 2012.


Hmm? Probably going to be more like 1.3-1.5 million.

typo. i meant 2011 lol.

Which given Microsoft's PR last year (claimed they sold the most WW) means we clearly undertracked the 360 last year yet that never got adjusted up.  Perhaps thats why they've been stealth adjusting weekly this year in the US (showing overtracked) and why the figures aren't as close as they usually are to NPD as they make up for cocking up last year. 



You need to take PR with a grain of salt. Show me where they say last year they sold more for the year WW and I will show you shipment figures



Never!!!!



sales2099 said:

I did. PS2 was allready the winner, which was why it continued to sell well into the next gen. Also the competitors were nowhere near close in lifetime sales. PS3 is totally different then PS2 in those regards. Bad example.

Oh sales should be counted when next gen happens. Not denying that. Im saying "whos gonna care?", which is a very legit question.

If PS3 passes 360 in 2014 or 2015 when all 3 next gen consoles are out, people will just shrug in neutrality. They arent current anymore. Period. To me, 360 won when it was part of the current gen. Anything that happens after is hollow as again....people just wont care.

PS3 fans crack open the bubly and Xbox fans will cheer on the Xbox 3 beating PS4. The cycle begins a new and in the end you won nothing. Just inherited another generation of fighting for lost marketshare.

i know you know better then to believe that. those who care will cheer. those who don't care will say, it happened when the 7th gen ended, or some BS like that, and everything we've talked about the whole of the 7th gen. will be brought back into a pointless conversation that need not have been had in the 1st place.

if PS3 out sales 360/Wii at anytime, then it won't matter when it does. it will matter that it did. you know that's all fans care about in the end? it will be worse if 360 is still on the market, then that adds to the fire, saying 360 was a fluk, giving more to the arguement XBOX3 won't win the 8th gen.

yea talk about how it starts, but what's always more important is who's on top when all are discontinued.

 

 

WOW! PS3 beats 360 this week. If Ps3 can do that the rest of the year it will change everyones views. However, VGC just readjusted to preadjustment levels when NPD showed they needed to adjust down. I believe the Ps3 may have beat the 360 a little more than whats shown
yea, i saw a post where'n it was said Sony said they sold 70m at th end of Nov. i think it was.



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MARCUSDJACKSON said:
sales2099 said:

I did. PS2 was allready the winner, which was why it continued to sell well into the next gen. Also the competitors were nowhere near close in lifetime sales. PS3 is totally different then PS2 in those regards. Bad example.

Oh sales should be counted when next gen happens. Not denying that. Im saying "whos gonna care?", which is a very legit question.

If PS3 passes 360 in 2014 or 2015 when all 3 next gen consoles are out, people will just shrug in neutrality. They arent current anymore. Period. To me, 360 won when it was part of the current gen. Anything that happens after is hollow as again....people just wont care.

PS3 fans crack open the bubly and Xbox fans will cheer on the Xbox 3 beating PS4. The cycle begins a new and in the end you won nothing. Just inherited another generation of fighting for lost marketshare.

 

WOW! PS3 beats 360 this week. If Ps3 can do that the rest of the year it will change everyones views. However, VGC just readjusted to preadjustment levels when NPD showed they needed to adjust down. I believe the Ps3 may have beat the 360 a little more than whats shown
yea, i saw a post where'n it was said Sony said they sold 70m at th end of Nov. i think it was.


Shipped 70 million in the last week of October. That week started in October but finished in November. I really find it hard to believe Sony didn't need to ship any units in November. Obviously they did and I full expect the shipments that they shipped in Oct to be sold through during the week of BF with the shipments starting in Nov starting to be sold.



slowmo said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
postofficebuddy said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
i'm doubtful of 2013-2015. i just don't see 360 declining enough for that to happen. maybe 2015 pending Sony PS3 sales stay 1m a head of 360.

yea by the by. PS3 finished 600k a head of 360 for 2012.


Hmm? Probably going to be more like 1.3-1.5 million.

typo. i meant 2011 lol.

Which given Microsoft's PR last year (claimed they sold the most WW) means we clearly undertracked the 360 last year yet that never got adjusted up.  Perhaps thats why they've been stealth adjusting weekly this year in the US (showing overtracked) and why the figures aren't as close as they usually are to NPD as they make up for cocking up last year. 

they had to mean shipped, otherwise there would be an bigger gap between PS360 sales, and our sold numbers wouldn't match, or be close to shipped numbers.

remember, PR is the BS businesses want you to hear, you have to fact check for yourself. Nitendo show reports of console sales every yr. for comparison.

i'll find it for you if you'd like



MARCUSDJACKSON said:
slowmo said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
postofficebuddy said:
 

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they had to mean shipped, otherwise there would be an bigger gap between PS360 sales, and our sold numbers wouldn't match, or be close to shipped numbers.

remember, PR is the BS businesses want you to hear, you have to fact check for yourself. Nitendo show reports of console sales every yr. for comparison.

i'll find it for you if you'd like



http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earnings/Kpi/FY13/Q1/Detail.aspx

360 - FY 12 = 13mil

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3_sale_e.html

Ps3 - FY 11 = 13.9 mil

I don't know why the FY is different but those are both their last years reports.



Max King of the Wild said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
sales2099 said:

I did. PS2 was allready the winner, which was why it continued to sell well into the next gen. Also the competitors were nowhere near close in lifetime sales. PS3 is totally different then PS2 in those regards. Bad example.

Oh sales should be counted when next gen happens. Not denying that. Im saying "whos gonna care?", which is a very legit question.

If PS3 passes 360 in 2014 or 2015 when all 3 next gen consoles are out, people will just shrug in neutrality. They arent current anymore. Period. To me, 360 won when it was part of the current gen. Anything that happens after is hollow as again....people just wont care.

PS3 fans crack open the bubly and Xbox fans will cheer on the Xbox 3 beating PS4. The cycle begins a new and in the end you won nothing. Just inherited another generation of fighting for lost marketshare.

 

WOW! PS3 beats 360 this week. If Ps3 can do that the rest of the year it will change everyones views. However, VGC just readjusted to preadjustment levels when NPD showed they needed to adjust down. I believe the Ps3 may have beat the 360 a little more than whats shown
yea, i saw a post where'n it was said Sony said they sold 70m at th end of Nov. i think it was.

 


Shipped 70 million in the last week of October. That week started in October but finished in November. I really find it hard to believe Sony didn't need to ship any units in November. Obviously they did and I full expect the shipments that they shipped in Oct to be sold through during the week of BF with the shipments starting in Nov starting to be sold.

cool! yea, so we both see there's an adjustment needed.



Max King of the Wild said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
slowmo said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
postofficebuddy said:
 

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they had to mean shipped, otherwise there would be an bigger gap between PS360 sales, and our sold numbers wouldn't match, or be close to shipped numbers.

remember, PR is the BS businesses want you to hear, you have to fact check for yourself. Nitendo show reports of console sales every yr. for comparison.

i'll find it for you if you'd like



http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earnings/Kpi/FY13/Q1/Detail.aspx

360 - FY 12 = 13mil

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3_sale_e.html

Ps3 - FY 11 = 13.9 mil

I don't know why the FY is different but those are both their last years reports.

ok, so Sony won. i think we had Sony a bit over 14m or so. i'm sure it was adjusted.