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JayWood2010 said:


They decide to publish the game.  Im not saying they are milking it.  It is just bad to publish bad games.


Then you're talking about something else entirely.



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Jay520 said:
JayWood2010 said:


They decide to publish the game.  Im not saying they are milking it.  It is just bad to publish bad games.


Then you're talking about something else entirely.


I'm not the one who was talking about it.....I just said they owned R&C and somebody is milking it wether it is sony or Insomniac.  Still this game should have never been backed up in the first place




       

Barozi said:

I don't believe it. Fact is Sony owns the IP, they likely want to milk the franchise so they told Insomniac to make game after game or else they would give it to other developers. Now others could ruin the franchise and Insomniac's reputation so they decided to make'em themselves.
I doubt they had fun pumping out R&C games every year.

Either way, this franchise has been extremely milked.


So we've moven to theories now? Okay, you have the right to your theories I guess.

But I'll give my theory too. Insomniac isn't owned by Sony. They don't have to do anything they don't want to do. Sony could encourage them to do something, but again, they don't have to do it if they don't want to. The choice is completely their owns. Also, how would you even know if Sony encouraged them to keep making R&C games? Because you think they didn't have fun pumping them out? More theories. If Sony made Insomniac keep pumping out R&C games, why didn't they do the same to Naughty Dog with Jak & Daxter? Especially considering they own Naughty Dog. You would think if Sony had the balls to tell a third-party publisher what to release, they would also do the same to a developer who they actually owned.

Either way, just theories and speculation.



JayWood2010 said:


I'm not the one who was talking about it.....I just said they owned R&C and somebody is milking it wether it is sony or Insomniac.  Still this game should have never been backed up in the first place


Exactly, you're not talking about it...like I just said. Bazori and I were talking about Sony milking the franchise. You are talking about something else.



Barozi said:
Jay520 said:
Barozi said:
Jay520 said:
Barozi said:
Didn't realize how Sony milked that franchise. (Not only in recent years)


Insomniac isn't owned by Sony.

I know but the Ratchet & Clank IP is.
Insomniac isn't the only R&C developer either, so it's clear that Sony (and not Insomniac) tried to expand the series.



Insomniac doesn't have to make R&C if they don't want to. Yet they've made every single R&C, aside from the PSP installments. They could have stopped making R&C games back with A Crack in Time. It's hasn't been Sony's decision to make them release so many games. That's completely Insomniac.

I don't believe it. Fact is Sony owns the IP, they likely want to milk the franchise so they told Insomniac to make game after game or else they would give it to other developers. Now others could ruin the franchise and Insomniac's reputation so they decided to make'em themselves.
I doubt they had fun pumping out R&C games every year.

Either way, this franchise has been extremely milked.

Fact is no one said jack shit.



 

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Jay520 said:
Barozi said:

I don't believe it. Fact is Sony owns the IP, they likely want to milk the franchise so they told Insomniac to make game after game or else they would give it to other developers. Now others could ruin the franchise and Insomniac's reputation so they decided to make'em themselves.
I doubt they had fun pumping out R&C games every year.

Either way, this franchise has been extremely milked.


So we've moven to theories now? Okay, you have the right to your theories I guess.

But I'll give my theory too. Insomniac isn't owned by Sony. They don't have to do anything they don't want to do. Sony could encourage them to do something, but again, they don't have to do it if they don't want to. The choice is completely their owns. Also, how would you even know if Sony encouraged them to keep making R&C games? Because you think they didn't have fun pumping them out? More theories. If Sony made Insomniac keep pumping out R&C games, why didn't they do the same to Naughty Dog with Jak & Daxter? Especially considering they own Naughty Dog. You would think if Sony had the balls to tell a third-party publisher what to release, they would also do the same to a developer who they actually owned.

Either way, just theories and speculation.

Whatever you say man. Still Sony allowed them to milk the franchise, so it's partially their fault, which makes my first statement at least 50% right (if not more), whereas your point seemed to be that it's purely Insomniac's own decision how many games they make for Sony and that Sony would not let another dev work on the series if they don't release a game on a yearly basis (which they did for many many years).



As far as I know, Insomniac has two development studios. They have one in Burbank, California, with the other one being in North Carolina. The one in NC made All 4 One and I think Full Frontal Assault, while the Burbank office made all the other R&C games. So maybe it is the NC office that shouldn't be making the games anymore.



Jay520 said:
Barozi said:

I don't believe it. Fact is Sony owns the IP, they likely want to milk the franchise so they told Insomniac to make game after game or else they would give it to other developers. Now others could ruin the franchise and Insomniac's reputation so they decided to make'em themselves.
I doubt they had fun pumping out R&C games every year.

Either way, this franchise has been extremely milked.


So we've moven to theories now? Okay, you have the right to your theories I guess.

But I'll give my theory too. Insomniac isn't owned by Sony. They don't have to do anything they don't want to do. Sony could encourage them to do something, but again, they don't have to do it if they don't want to. The choice is completely their owns. Also, how would you even know if Sony encouraged them to keep making R&C games? Because you think they didn't have fun pumping them out? More theories. If Sony made Insomniac keep pumping out R&C games, why didn't they do the same to Naughty Dog with Jak & Daxter? Especially considering they own Naughty Dog. You would think if Sony had the balls to tell a third-party publisher what to release, they would also do the same to a developer who they actually owned.

Either way, just theories and speculation.

The most logial theory is Sony and Insomniac have a contract for a certain amoutn of R&C releases. So if Sony goes we want a new game Insomniac has to honor the contract.



Jay520 said:
Barozi said:
Jay520 said:
Barozi said:
Didn't realize how Sony milked that franchise. (Not only in recent years)


Insomniac isn't owned by Sony.

I know but the Ratchet & Clank IP is.
Insomniac isn't the only R&C developer either, so it's clear that Sony (and not Insomniac) tried to expand the series.



Insomniac doesn't have to make R&C if they don't want to. Yet they've made every single R&C, aside from the PSP installments. They could have stopped making R&C games back with A Crack in Time. It's hasn't been Sony's decision to make them release so many games. That's completely Insomniac.

lol you make it seem like they arent a company that does business deals and has contracts, and deadlines to meet.

Sony: Hey buddy, you can make a game for us. Or not. Its tots up to you.

Insomiac: Were soooo bored. Well just make a R&C game for the hell of it. Hell well make like half a dozen this gen. That will fill up our schedule. That cool  bro?

Sony: You guys are the bestest.



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This series went seriously downhill after all4one and the multiplayer focus. Ratchet and clank is my favorite series of all time. 3 is my favorite game of all time. Acit is my favorite game this gen. It contains 3 of my top 10 games of all time (going commando also) and had no bad entries until then. Now they go multiplayer for some reason. It's a shame :(




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