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JoeTheBro said:
BluGamer23 said:
JoeTheBro said:
BluGamer23 said:

Still cant believe there are still people in denial about the vita's vita...

Just today I told my friend who was a huge defender of the vita as he heavily defended it from the start.. and I showed him the example of blackops .. vita's "saviour" that it was DOA.. a massive fail of a game.. and he agreed and finally admitted his huge disappointment of the vita..

It is better to trade it in now guys while the trade-in price is still fairly high... rather than wait longer when it will be worth less.. he traded it in and got his wiiU pre-ordered. LOL .. now in the future IF sony decides to care about it.. he can still buy back a new vita at a cheaper price!.. if not then no big loss to him.. win!

If sony doesnt care .. why should anyone else care about it.

If you were going for sarcasim or something I'm sorry but it went over my head.

 

If you meant for this to be serious, you are the same type of person that trolls reviews giving zeros. Now I'm not calling you a troll, but I am calling you a liar. Sure many people don't like the Vita but no one with half a brain cell should believe your "friend" went from a huge defender since launch to being disappointed by the system all because you showed him black ops.

lol whut?..  no sarcasm.. you see how I said "Still cant believe there are still people in denial about the vita's vita..." 
you are part of that.. your comment shows it.. obviously COD failing wasnt the only reason he sold it.. like Duuuuuhhhhh no shit man!

It is everything about the vita not enough interesting games has come out of it.. and COD failing was the last thing that pushed him to get rid of it.. he was a huge defender why wouldnt he be?.. he bought the damn thing!.... vita is failing so hard just like the psp-go .. you know it! or are you that thick headed to defend it this far.. even at this point in time when COD/AC is out on it?  

"you are the same type of person that trolls reviews giving zeros."    lol seriously now?.. haha!.. you mean the same type of vita fans that trolls reviews giving COD-vita 9's and 10's .. LOL! hiliarious!

I threw in the sarcasm part to give you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe just maybe you weren't as one sided as your post. Judging by your response, you are.

Instead of tearing apart your posts and getting nowhere, can you just elaborate on your friend and his disappointment with his Vita? Right now all I see is a bunch of incoherent thoughts hidden behind lols. If you don't reasonably attempt to back yourself up I will not respond. Why would I waste my time on a habitual liar?

So because you Believe the vita is the holy grail of  handhelds  it's impossible for anyone to be disappointed want to return it? I think you should reevaluate that "reviewing games giving zeros" theory of yours because I think it applies to you more than you think. The arrogance of the post is amazing but the worst part is you don't see it and instead try to call out people trolls, (to mask something perhaps?)



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PlaystaionGamer said:
fillet said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
kowenicki said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
Argh_College said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
Argh_College said:
haha Vita has no chance agaisnt Iphone and 3ds.

Sony leave the handheld market, not only you arent giving us good games like 3ds but you are also being absolute humiliated by competition.


You annoy me more then any other person on this site, your a mega troll and you never get banned. You clearly hate playstation and voice your ridiculous MS orientated views all overt the place.

why don't you go play halo... Or gears.. Or halo... Or gea.... OR go play on your Microsoft Surface that wil outsell everything by 400,000,000 by the end of tomorrow. 

Mods ban this guy. How long does this actually have to go on? 

Take it easy mate you need to calm down.

Just because Vita isnt the success sony hoped to be doesnt mean Ps4 wont be.


Oh trust me I'm not Vita hardcore fan.. Who said this has anything to do with how the PS4 will perform? I'm sorry for being so rude to you before but you need to stop with your crazy posts all over the place. It's very annoying to see someone so biased 

and you dont see any irony in that at all?


Of course you would post on this.. Shocker. Can't see what this has to do with you and no not really. I don't go around defending Sony and bashing ms or Nintendo. I love gears of war and love brawl. I know why people choose other platforms that why I don't go around defending Sony to totters posts like its my life kowenicki... Not that you can't say the same. It's annoying my username is Playstaiongamer as A. The obvious spelling mistake and B. it type casts me. I do wish to put this behind us but when I see you and Argh_collage posting the same stuff everyday whenever you can its annoying. From now on il just report you rather then lowering myself to a low level :)

Anyway, does it matter? Relax, take it easy.

I can't stand reading your posts, they want to make me slash my wrists. But that's my problem.

Live and let live. :)

I would say the same too but your new and I haven't seen you before. Sadly.


Not very impressive reply, would expect better from someone who isn't new. Sadly.



Ji99saw said:
JoeTheBro said:
BluGamer23 said:
JoeTheBro said:
BluGamer23 said:

Still cant believe there are still people in denial about the vita's vita...

Just today I told my friend who was a huge defender of the vita as he heavily defended it from the start.. and I showed him the example of blackops .. vita's "saviour" that it was DOA.. a massive fail of a game.. and he agreed and finally admitted his huge disappointment of the vita..

It is better to trade it in now guys while the trade-in price is still fairly high... rather than wait longer when it will be worth less.. he traded it in and got his wiiU pre-ordered. LOL .. now in the future IF sony decides to care about it.. he can still buy back a new vita at a cheaper price!.. if not then no big loss to him.. win!

If sony doesnt care .. why should anyone else care about it.

If you were going for sarcasim or something I'm sorry but it went over my head.

 

If you meant for this to be serious, you are the same type of person that trolls reviews giving zeros. Now I'm not calling you a troll, but I am calling you a liar. Sure many people don't like the Vita but no one with half a brain cell should believe your "friend" went from a huge defender since launch to being disappointed by the system all because you showed him black ops.

lol whut?..  no sarcasm.. you see how I said "Still cant believe there are still people in denial about the vita's vita..." 
you are part of that.. your comment shows it.. obviously COD failing wasnt the only reason he sold it.. like Duuuuuhhhhh no shit man!

It is everything about the vita not enough interesting games has come out of it.. and COD failing was the last thing that pushed him to get rid of it.. he was a huge defender why wouldnt he be?.. he bought the damn thing!.... vita is failing so hard just like the psp-go .. you know it! or are you that thick headed to defend it this far.. even at this point in time when COD/AC is out on it?  

"you are the same type of person that trolls reviews giving zeros."    lol seriously now?.. haha!.. you mean the same type of vita fans that trolls reviews giving COD-vita 9's and 10's .. LOL! hiliarious!

I threw in the sarcasm part to give you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe just maybe you weren't as one sided as your post. Judging by your response, you are.

Instead of tearing apart your posts and getting nowhere, can you just elaborate on your friend and his disappointment with his Vita? Right now all I see is a bunch of incoherent thoughts hidden behind lols. If you don't reasonably attempt to back yourself up I will not respond. Why would I waste my time on a habitual liar?

So because you Believe the vita is the holy grail of  handhelds  it's impossible for anyone to be disappointed want to return it? I think you should reevaluate that "reviewing games giving zeros" theory of yours because I think it applies to you more than you think. The arrogance of the post is amazing but the worst part is you don't see it and instead try to call out people trolls, (to mask something perhaps?)

No you figured out my secret! I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body. Not sure why you need to bring that up though, after all we are talking about video games.

Anyway sure it's possible for people to not like it, even hate it. However it is impossible for a guy that likes both Sony and handhelds to be disappointed. That's like a guy who likes money and free gifts being upset because a friend gave him a thousand dollars.



fillet said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
fillet said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
kowenicki said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
Argh_College said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
Argh_College said:
haha Vita has no chance agaisnt Iphone and 3ds.

Sony leave the handheld market, not only you arent giving us good games like 3ds but you are also being absolute humiliated by competition.


You annoy me more then any other person on this site, your a mega troll and you never get banned. You clearly hate playstation and voice your ridiculous MS orientated views all overt the place.

why don't you go play halo... Or gears.. Or halo... Or gea.... OR go play on your Microsoft Surface that wil outsell everything by 400,000,000 by the end of tomorrow. 

Mods ban this guy. How long does this actually have to go on? 

Take it easy mate you need to calm down.

Just because Vita isnt the success sony hoped to be doesnt mean Ps4 wont be.


Oh trust me I'm not Vita hardcore fan.. Who said this has anything to do with how the PS4 will perform? I'm sorry for being so rude to you before but you need to stop with your crazy posts all over the place. It's very annoying to see someone so biased 

and you dont see any irony in that at all?


Of course you would post on this.. Shocker. Can't see what this has to do with you and no not really. I don't go around defending Sony and bashing ms or Nintendo. I love gears of war and love brawl. I know why people choose other platforms that why I don't go around defending Sony to totters posts like its my life kowenicki... Not that you can't say the same. It's annoying my username is Playstaiongamer as A. The obvious spelling mistake and B. it type casts me. I do wish to put this behind us but when I see you and Argh_collage posting the same stuff everyday whenever you can its annoying. From now on il just report you rather then lowering myself to a low level :)

Anyway, does it matter? Relax, take it easy.

I can't stand reading your posts, they want to make me slash my wrists. But that's my problem.

Live and let live. :)

I would say the same too but your new and I haven't seen you before. Sadly.


Not very impressive reply, would expect better from someone who isn't new. Sadly.


I like your bitchyness... I look forward to man debates with you new kid ;)



PlaystaionGamer said:
fillet said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
fillet said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
kowenicki said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
Argh_College said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
Argh_College said:
haha Vita has no chance agaisnt Iphone and 3ds.

Sony leave the handheld market, not only you arent giving us good games like 3ds but you are also being absolute humiliated by competition.


You annoy me more then any other person on this site, your a mega troll and you never get banned. You clearly hate playstation and voice your ridiculous MS orientated views all overt the place.

why don't you go play halo... Or gears.. Or halo... Or gea.... OR go play on your Microsoft Surface that wil outsell everything by 400,000,000 by the end of tomorrow. 

Mods ban this guy. How long does this actually have to go on? 

Take it easy mate you need to calm down.

Just because Vita isnt the success sony hoped to be doesnt mean Ps4 wont be.


Oh trust me I'm not Vita hardcore fan.. Who said this has anything to do with how the PS4 will perform? I'm sorry for being so rude to you before but you need to stop with your crazy posts all over the place. It's very annoying to see someone so biased 

and you dont see any irony in that at all?


Of course you would post on this.. Shocker. Can't see what this has to do with you and no not really. I don't go around defending Sony and bashing ms or Nintendo. I love gears of war and love brawl. I know why people choose other platforms that why I don't go around defending Sony to totters posts like its my life kowenicki... Not that you can't say the same. It's annoying my username is Playstaiongamer as A. The obvious spelling mistake and B. it type casts me. I do wish to put this behind us but when I see you and Argh_collage posting the same stuff everyday whenever you can its annoying. From now on il just report you rather then lowering myself to a low level :)

Anyway, does it matter? Relax, take it easy.

I can't stand reading your posts, they want to make me slash my wrists. But that's my problem.

Live and let live. :)

I would say the same too but your new and I haven't seen you before. Sadly.


Not very impressive reply, would expect better from someone who isn't new. Sadly.


I like your bitchyness... I look forward to man debates with you new kid ;)

:) I'm tired.



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JoeTheBro said:
BluGamer23 said:
JoeTheBro said:
BluGamer23 said:

Still cant believe there are still people in denial about the vita's vita...

Just today I told my friend who was a huge defender of the vita as he heavily defended it from the start.. and I showed him the example of blackops .. vita's "saviour" that it was DOA.. a massive fail of a game.. and he agreed and finally admitted his huge disappointment of the vita..

It is better to trade it in now guys while the trade-in price is still fairly high... rather than wait longer when it will be worth less.. he traded it in and got his wiiU pre-ordered. LOL .. now in the future IF sony decides to care about it.. he can still buy back a new vita at a cheaper price!.. if not then no big loss to him.. win!

If sony doesnt care .. why should anyone else care about it.

If you were going for sarcasim or something I'm sorry but it went over my head.

 

If you meant for this to be serious, you are the same type of person that trolls reviews giving zeros. Now I'm not calling you a troll, but I am calling you a liar. Sure many people don't like the Vita but no one with half a brain cell should believe your "friend" went from a huge defender since launch to being disappointed by the system all because you showed him black ops.

lol whut?..  no sarcasm.. you see how I said "Still cant believe there are still people in denial about the vita's vita..." 
you are part of that.. your comment shows it.. obviously COD failing wasnt the only reason he sold it.. like Duuuuuhhhhh no shit man!

It is everything about the vita not enough interesting games has come out of it.. and COD failing was the last thing that pushed him to get rid of it.. he was a huge defender why wouldnt he be?.. he bought the damn thing!.... vita is failing so hard just like the psp-go .. you know it! or are you that thick headed to defend it this far.. even at this point in time when COD/AC is out on it?  

"you are the same type of person that trolls reviews giving zeros."    lol seriously now?.. haha!.. you mean the same type of vita fans that trolls reviews giving COD-vita 9's and 10's .. LOL! hiliarious!

I threw in the sarcasm part to give you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe just maybe you weren't as one sided as your post. Judging by your response, you are.

Instead of tearing apart your posts and getting nowhere, can you just elaborate on your friend and his disappointment with his Vita? Right now all I see is a bunch of incoherent thoughts hidden behind lols. If you don't reasonably attempt to back yourself up I will not respond. Why would I waste my time on a habitual liar?

Im a liar now?.. lol yeh ok!..  it was easy enough to understand.. no need to respond to me I totally understand why such an easy logic would go over your head.  You have hardcore sony fan logic.. and as their slogan says: "SONY make.believe" ...well yeh.. doesnt go with the real world mostly just fantasies.

I have explained it twice already .. theres no helping you man.. good luck in the future!

 






 

"SONY make.believe" that slogan is real but in an unreal world... Sony fantasy land.



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JWeinCom said:
Dodece said:
JWeinCom said:

Why should we be doing Sony any favors?  I don't want the Vita to fail or anything, but it's Sony's job to make the Vita a success, not ours.  Right now, Sony hasn't created a product or a software library that warrants a 250+ price tag, and accordingly we ask them to lower the price to reflect the value of the device. Sony's not helping me out with my personal problems, so i don't think I'm going to help them with theirs.

I think you are getting me wrong. I am not for the Vita or for Sony. I am however for reality. There are however some in this thread, or on these forums that do want the Vita to succeed, and their justifications for it doing just that. Always revolve around a price cut coming to the rescue. My point being that is isn't going to happen, and their perpetuating that story line is actually a self defeating act. I really could care less if they want to spin fairytales about their god rising from its grave, but when they are doing something so foolish as to keep tossing more dirt on that grave. Well it is so ridiculous it really warrants someone taking the time to point it out to them.

At the end of the day it isn't even about the Vita. There are a lot of people here who just root for the brand. In the same way some root for a local sports team. They don't necessarily care what happens to individual players. They just care about how it affects their team. To put it mildly a lot of them wouldn't give a flying fuck about the Vita if it didn't have Sony on the label. To them the Vita can only be a stain or a medal.


Fair enough, but what else short of a price cut can help the Vita?  Obviously games, but can Sony produce a true system seller?  What would movitvate third parties to develop expensive AAA titles for the Vita?  It's hard to really think of a Vita recovery scenario that doesn't involve.  

a) Slashing the price.

b) Paying big money for exclusives.

Either way, Sony is going to have to take a hit to right the ship.  If they truly can't do that, then I don't see the Vita bouncing back.

I fervently believe that Sony had a window of opportunity, but given development cycles that window has closed. Basically the things needed to salvage the ship needed to be in the works before launch. Nothing can be done about the poor hardware choices that were made. Which are locking in the price point. While any capitol ventured on new game development probably won't bring the needed games to the platform soon enough. That all being said I think Sony had just plain squandered a real resource that would have given them a more compelling experience.

Sony has a Massive Multiplayer Online studio in the form of Sony Online Entertainment. That is something that Microsoft and Nintendo lack. Had they changed up the management, and infused some serious cash. They could have one or two large persistent world experiences to offer on the platform. The beauty of such games is they are fairly popular, have huge replay value, and offer a revenue stream. Factor in the fact that you can't get high end experinences in this genre on the 3DS, Cell Phones, or Tablets, and you have a severe bragging right.

Sony could have sold a million units in Eastern markets on this alone. It would at least give them some breathing room when it came to release schedules, and more importantly it would have given them some much needed play in the pricing of the system. I honestly don't know why they didn't focus this studio on their new portable. It is actually going under utilized. When your running a console business, and a portable business. Expending resources on the PC market doesn't make a lot of sense.

That said it is just too late to do these things considering that the development cycle of such games would probably be longer then Vitas projected life span. I suppose if there is any hope out there it isn't in the games. I know it will tweak some, but Sony should look at copying what Microsoft is doing with their rent to own promotions. I don't think it would be a particularly good idea, but if the problem is install base related. They have to come up with some way to artificially increase the numbers. Even if half the people that opt into such a promotion opt to default out three or four months later.