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First reaction to Vita sales?

Yikes! 87 20.91%
 
Terrible! 28 6.73%
 
Awful! 23 5.53%
 
Dead! 113 27.16%
 
Poor Vita... 79 18.99%
 
Nice sales! 72 17.31%
 
Other 14 3.37%
 
Total:416
Kynes on 14 November 2012
naruball said:
Kynes said:
naruball said:
Kynes said:
The problem Sony has is that with those sales, no mentally sane developer would invest on a Vita AAA exclusive game. This time they don't have a twin console that could make it viable in the long term.

Yeah, not really. A couple of months ago a Japanese game sold best on Vita (beat psp and 3DS). Persona 4 Golden did amazing as well. I have no doubt that a monster hunter game on the vita would sell extremely well, even better than on the 3ds.


Why would you do it, when you could sell more and at the same time, it would be cheaper to develop for the 3DS? I keep hearing that mythical monster hunter game for the Vita. At least for now it's 2 MH games for 3DS, 0 for Vita. It seems Capcom think they will make more money on the 3DS.


How can you be certain that it would sell more on 3ds? Like I said, that Japanese game was released on vita, psp and 3ds and despite the vita's tiny install base, it outsold the 3ds and psp versions. Though I do agree with your argument that it would be cheaper to develop for the 3ds.


Install base. I'm sure most people who want a new monster hunter game already have or will have soon a 3DS, so it's a much cheaper investment for them to buy that game on the 3DS than on the Vita when/if the Vita has it's game. We are not talking of niche games, we are talking of MH, a huge franchise in Japan.



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hunter_alien on 14 November 2012

Yeah... quality=/=quantity. Something of fine taste will never sell as well as a mass product

Toyota sells more cars then Porsche



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Kynes on 14 November 2012
hunter_alien said:
Yeah... quality=/=quantity. Something of fine taste will never sell as well as a mass product

Toyota sells more cars then Porsche


At least Porsche makes money with every unit sold



sundin13 on 14 November 2012
naruball said:


How can you be certain that it would sell more on 3ds? Like I said, that Japanese game was released on vita, psp and 3ds and despite the vita's tiny install base, it outsold the 3ds and psp versions. Though I do agree with your argument that it would be cheaper to develop for the 3ds.

well heres the thing...in japan, the vita has sold just over 1 million in hardware.

Also, Monster Hunter 3G has sold just over 1.5 million while the 3DS is around 8million. That is an 18.5% attach rate (for a game that has been released before and was recently put on the eShop)...even if you give the MH vita a 50% attach rate, it would still only sell 1/3 of what the 3DS version sold...its really hard to believe that MHvita would sell better on the vita than the 3DS



naruball on 14 November 2012
Kynes said:
naruball said:
Kynes said:
naruball said:
Kynes said:
The problem Sony has is that with those sales, no mentally sane developer would invest on a Vita AAA exclusive game. This time they don't have a twin console that could make it viable in the long term.

Yeah, not really. A couple of months ago a Japanese game sold best on Vita (beat psp and 3DS). Persona 4 Golden did amazing as well. I have no doubt that a monster hunter game on the vita would sell extremely well, even better than on the 3ds.


Why would you do it, when you could sell more and at the same time, it would be cheaper to develop for the 3DS? I keep hearing that mythical monster hunter game for the Vita. At least for now it's 2 MH games for 3DS, 0 for Vita. It seems Capcom think they will make more money on the 3DS.


How can you be certain that it would sell more on 3ds? Like I said, that Japanese game was released on vita, psp and 3ds and despite the vita's tiny install base, it outsold the 3ds and psp versions. Though I do agree with your argument that it would be cheaper to develop for the 3ds.


Install base. I'm sure most people who want a new monster hunter game already have or will have soon a 3DS, so it's a much cheaper investment for them to buy that game on the 3DS than on the Vita when/if the Vita has it's game. We are not talking of niche games, we are talking of MH, a huge franchise in Japan.

We have tons of examples of install base not making a difference in terms of sales. And in regard to Monster hunter, just a reminder: the psp sold more than 300.000 units in a week with the release of a monster hunter game (after the release of several monster hunter psp games). It is plausible that the vita would have a similar boost.



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amp316 on 14 November 2012
hunter_alien said:
Yeah... quality=/=quantity. Something of fine taste will never sell as well as a mass product

Toyota sells more cars then Porsche


But a Porsche and a Toyota have a much higher price difference than a Vita and a 3DS.  Rich people buy those super expensive Porsches so they do make a lot of money.



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VicViper on 14 November 2012
hunter_alien said:
Yeah... quality=/=quantity. Something of fine taste will never sell as well as a mass product

Toyota sells more cars then Porsche

The problem here is that a Porsche is a object of desire, wanted by all, but unobtainable for most.

Vita is not. It's not desirable in the moment, and yet it's affordable.



JazzB1987 on 14 November 2012

In week 46 3ds outsells Vita by 46:1 ?


hmm what in week 50? 50:1?

To bad the next year will start at week 1.....



naruball on 14 November 2012
sundin13 said:
naruball said:
 


How can you be certain that it would sell more on 3ds? Like I said, that Japanese game was released on vita, psp and 3ds and despite the vita's tiny install base, it outsold the 3ds and psp versions. Though I do agree with your argument that it would be cheaper to develop for the 3ds.

well heres the thing...in japan, the vita has sold just over 1 million in hardware.

Also, Monster Hunter 3G has sold just over 1.5 million while the 3DS is around 8million. That is an 18.5% attach rate (for a game that has been released before and was recently put on the eShop)...even if you give the MH vita a 50% attach rate, it would still only sell 1/3 of what the 3DS version sold...its really hard to believe that MHvita would sell better on the vita than the 3DS

You are not taking into account the hardware boost that vita could get thanks to a mh game. Mh unite is repsonible for millions of psps sales. It is the only evergreen title on a sony platform I can think of.



Nem on 14 November 2012

I do wonder when people will finally admit the Vita is a lost cause... something tells me that even after some less than stellar holidays we will keep hearing "lets see what happens this year".