This is an awesome thing Sony has going, the possibilities are Sparta! We'll never need another console again!!(In theory of course lol)
PSN Plus feature, Free PS1/PS2 games streaming or something along those lines to give people more incentive to fork down the money for plus so they can generate XBL gold type revenue lol
Edit: Nvm i just saw the thread now where Sony has plans to sell them via streaming lmao.
Wait... where is teh Wii U stuff that I was promised? :0
I hope its an option. I mean what if my internet suddenly went out. I'll be pissed off
PS3 will probably start by having some limited streaming capability.
PS4 and Vita will likely have a much broader range of streaming options. Probably a tiered subscription model linked to your PSN account; pay a high annual fee for full access to the full library, a mid-level that lets you stream a few games free but pay after a certain amount and the free option where you purchase individual games separately.
I think PS1-3 & PSP/Vita games will be available for streaming on PS4 & Vita with true PS4 games only available in terms of demos for full blown titles. Full PS4 games may be added later but with the option to either stream or download.
They'll likely also create a Playstation app for Phones, Tablets, Blu-Ray players, laptops, set-top boxes etc.
| Andrespetmonkey said: Streaming is the future. It may be that streaming becomes the most popular form of distribution for publishers, or it may be that it becomes a mostly optional service, used to a lesser extent than physical copies or digital downloads but still a major feature of next gen systems; either way, it's inevitably going to be a big part of gaming's future. Sony recognises that, and is preparing for the cloud by acquiring a leading game streaming platform, Gaikai. So what does this mean for Playstation? Well, I've got a few ideas: PS1/PS2/PS3 games streamed to your PS4. This solves issues on both ends. It saves Sony money, or lowers the price of the PS4 by not including the hardware of previous generations and it gives the consumers what they want, their library of last gen games available to play on their current gen system. The only issue here would be getting your PS4 to know what PS1/2/3 games you own, my solution would be it somehow "knowing" your PS3 disc and the content on that disc and then allowing you to stream that game. The same could be possible for PS1/2 but I think having all PS1/2 games (or the "greatest hits") availiable to stream as part of a subscription service would be best suited here, and would make for another great perk to playstation's existing premium subscription service, Playstation Plus. PS3/PS4 games streamed to your PSVita. The PSVita has practically the same controls as the PS3's dualshock 3 (minus the L2/R2 buttons, but those are easily replaced on the touchscreen or back touchpad), making it perfect for this. It already has a similar feature to this called Remote Play, allowing your PS3's XMB to be streamed onto your PSV, however Remote Play allows interactivity with an extremely limited amount of PS3 games and requires your PS3 to be switched on. I think something like Remote Play has tremendous potential, if it had the whole PS3 library available and was streamed from a server rather than your PS3 it could be a brilliant selling point. PS4 is the PS5. If streaming really does succeed in replacing digital and physical distribution by the end of PS4's lifecycle then a PS5 in the form of more powerful hardware would be totally pointless. Thanks to streaming, the PS4 may be the last Playstation console you buy. How would Sony profit from this? Maybe you would pay a subscription for access to next gen games, or maybe you would pay a one-time payment, say of £100 to unlock the "PS5 games." What do you guys think? |
There is a problem that was talked about on BEYOND3D forums....
The problem is, is PS3 retail games cannot be emulated and this won't become possible for quite some time.
So in order to stream PS3 games, you would need PS3 based servers, that are literally made of PS3's, and it would be 1 PS3 per customer at a time, per game at a time.
Is this reasonable or practical?
| Persistantthug said: There is a problem that was talked about on BEYOND3D forums.... The problem is, is PS3 retail games cannot be emulated and this won't become possible for quite some time. So in order to stream PS3 games, you would need PS3 based servers, that are literally made of PS3's, and it would be 1 PS3 per customer at a time, per game at a time. Is this reasonable or practical? |
Similar setups work for existing cloud gaming services. It's profitable as long as they have enough users paying a subscription. Maybe the PS3 games that gamers already have could be free, but PS1/PS2 games would require a subscription, or maybe access to ALL PS3 games would require a subscription, maybe these could be parts of PS+, which would have to increase it's price a little. Gaikai already has great infrastructure, so it's not like Sony would be starting from scratch. Maybe PS3 games would require PS3s, but PS2 and certainly PS1 games could be emulated on PCs, and Gaikai (and now Sony) has plenty of those.
But hey, these are just ideas, not my surefire route to success for Sony.
I think this is very interesting. What I'm wondering though are a few things:
1) If Gaikai can stream AC Brotherhood at 720p 30fps, then what are the expectations of next gen buyers? Is that resolution good enough for them?
2) Will the streaming console be able to broadcast motion control inputs quickly to the server (I'm guessing "yes", I'm just not sure).
3) Would Sony be able to re-design the PS3 to have it fit a server cluster model, in other words redesign the hardware, remove the Blu-ray player, improve the efficiency and size so as to cluster many in a smaller area? If so, I even see this possible for streaming PS3 games.
4) Will Sony be happy with having a PC-compatible PS4 system architecture? Will there be a need for a whole new PS4 system, or would the PS4 simply need to be capable of streaming and then some other multimedia functions?
5) Thinking PS4 SKUs, would it be possible for Sony to sell a "Streaming Only" PS4 that is ultra-light and mostly just have the ability to read six-axis, move and other input and allow streaming as well as some other multimedia services? If so, this could be really cheap and light-weight.
Also, how would this affect the "Full" PS4 sku, with the whole PS4 next-gen hardware included, capable of reading and playing PS4 media?
I can't play Gaikai(Supossely latencies are too high). So this is a very distant future for me, as for a great part of gaming community.
| Andrespetmonkey said: Streaming is the future. It may be that streaming becomes the most popular form of distribution for publishers, or it may be that it becomes a mostly optional service, used to a lesser extent than physical copies or digital downloads but still a major feature of next gen systems; either way, it's inevitably going to be a big part of gaming's future. Sony recognises that, and is preparing for the cloud by acquiring a leading game streaming platform, Gaikai. So what does this mean for Playstation? Well, I've got a few ideas: PS1/PS2/PS3 games streamed to your PS4. This solves issues on both ends. It saves Sony money, or lowers the price of the PS4 by not including the hardware of previous generations and it gives the consumers what they want, their library of last gen games available to play on their current gen system. The only issue here would be getting your PS4 to know what PS1/2/3 games you own, my solution would be it somehow "knowing" your PS3 disc and the content on that disc and then allowing you to stream that game. The same could be possible for PS1/2 but I think having all PS1/2 games (or the "greatest hits") availiable to stream as part of a subscription service would be best suited here, and would make for another great perk to playstation's existing premium subscription service, Playstation Plus. PS3/PS4 games streamed to your PSVita. The PSVita has practically the same controls as the PS3's dualshock 3 (minus the L2/R2 buttons, but those are easily replaced on the touchscreen or back touchpad), making it perfect for this. It already has a similar feature to this called Remote Play, allowing your PS3's XMB to be streamed onto your PSV, however Remote Play allows interactivity with an extremely limited amount of PS3 games and requires your PS3 to be switched on. I think something like Remote Play has tremendous potential, if it had the whole PS3 library available and was streamed from a server rather than your PS3 it could be a brilliant selling point. PS4 is the PS5. If streaming really does succeed in replacing digital and physical distribution by the end of PS4's lifecycle then a PS5 in the form of more powerful hardware would be totally pointless. Thanks to streaming, the PS4 may be the last Playstation console you buy. How would Sony profit from this? Maybe you would pay a subscription for access to next gen games, or maybe you would pay a one-time payment, say of £100 to unlock the "PS5 games." What do you guys think? |
Also,
One of the things that this does is further extend the life of this current gen.....specifically the PS3.
So Kiss your PS4 in 2013 goodbye.
Awesome.....just what I wanted. :)
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