We all have seen that Sony, with exclusives, can still pull out some power from that marvelous PS3. Beyond it's the perfect example if it's true that the game runs all in real time. They can wait still at least 2 years before the PS4, there's no problem.

Microsoft has a big problem now, has still DVDs. 

You know PS3 has Blue-Ray they can reach 50gb of space if dual-layered and same Nintendo on the WiiU with their original kind of disc that works the same of Blue-Rays.

Now the developers will think twice about doing versions of big huge games like a Rage or a L.A. Noire or a Max Payne on the 360 where 2 out of 3 home consoles in the market requires only one disc. You know production costs.

I think, and i'm sure about this, that Microsoft has a console almost ready they could  show at this E3, but it will be like WiiU in 2011, they can't show a game for now.

So they wait like until they have something, they can show the next console in 3 occasions that i really hope, for them and for the market, they consider: Tokyo Game Show (because it's a chance to gain in a market never pratically considered by Japanese people), the March GDC (great for developers to see something) and E3. (well, duh)

What do you think, it's going to be real and in one of these events? Do you think too they risk to do like SEGA and force the life time of the 360 if they wait over this time?

Let me know.

TBH,I think MS is good with the 360. Its just overdue a price cut. Drop the price and theyre good to go.

...... not sure if joking. So you think DEVELOPERS (not publishers?) would choose to not make a version of a game that is typically the highest selling because of the tiny increase in cost of having two discs? ......what? The increase in cost of an extra disc is tiny. 

Honestly one of the oddest things I have seen written on chartz so far. 

Also I could be wrong but I believe the last time the 360 got a price drop was back in September 2009. Honestly out of the Wii, PS3 and 360 I think MS are actually the ones that could keep it going the longest if they wanted. They could probably easily do a $50 price cut and stay profitable, maybe even more. 

They apperantly have no problems with waiting to announce it so no I don't agree.

And the dvd segment of your post was completely irrelevant, if a developer wants to do a huge game and put it on 360 they will, the production cost to put it on several dvd's isn't that high and probably not far off a single BD.

put it this way, if microsoft decide to release a console in 2013 a ps4 will be coming asap, Sony do not want to give a year lead to microsoft.

I lol'd at the production costs of a DVD.

http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-4-7-DVD-R-100-Pack-Spindle/dp/B001TOD7ME/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_1

I, the shabby consumer, can buy 100 DVDs for $17.99. That is 0.18 Cents for a disc for ME. The manufacturer makes money and Amazon makes money when I buy it. Now think what might happen if Rockstar goes to a DVD manufacturer and says "we need about 3 million of these". Amazon makes no money either. So you are looking of additional costs of less than $0.08 per DVD and the software on it sells for $60.

And NO, MS does not charge a fee per disc. That was a rumour which appeared when the translation of an interviewn with iD software was simply wrong. It is still in some people's mind.

http://www.shacknews.com/article/54795/ids-tim-willits-on-rage

IF MS releases a new console in 2013, what I really hope, Sony needs to release the PS4 in the same timeframe. They can't handle another messed up launch like the PS3 again.

For the exclsuives you mentioned: I don't want to rub it in your face, but the real world is not anticipating these games as much as the internet tells you. Killzone 3 looked great and sold okay, not more. It is not like people (in the real world, not the internet) stop buying 360s and games for it, because Uncharted lookd so good. In fact, way more people, even on the PS3, prefer Battlefield over Killzone, CoD over Uncharted etc etc. The biggest games for the PS3 next year will be multiplat games and you don't see a lot of people talk about those.

Dude, mastering several DVDs is not the same as selling unformatted bulk DVDs..

But the additional costs are indeed not relevant if you sell enough software afterwards.

Though I usually much more prefer PS3 exclusives than 360 (and Sony as game company over Microsoft), I think that this generation has clearly shown that it's better 3rd party support that matters the most for current consoles - and for most part of this cycle Microsoft won there, so I don't think Sony's exclusives play much of the role overall. What's more, from business perspective, I think Microsoft is gonna kill in next gen - they can afford to have better hardware, I believe they will go (at least for some models) with subscription based, low cost offer (that they are testing now with 360 99$, 2 year subscription deal), and no matter how much I don't care for Kinect at current state, every Xbox8 will have one out of the box, and that means that developers can really start incorporating some of it's functionality into core titles (which, if used properly, can augment experience considerably).
Hopefully, at least for last part, Sony will have something similar, Eye2 perhaps, to level the field.

If anything, Microsoft are just doing Sony a favour the longer they take with the nextbox.

Sony can't afford to be last out of the gate again, and certainly not by a whole year. And as the sales figures (and new releases, to an extent) show, PS3 still has a lot of momentum this gen.

I think MS are doing the right thing, by the way. They'll get a decent hardware push this holiday with Halo, so it makes sense on their part to make this gen last as long as it can. And although it is helping Sony too, I shouldn't have thought they'd worry about that too much.

The problem will be weathering the hardware sales between the holidays and whenever the next Xbox is coming. But I'm sure they'll cope.

If Sony launches before Microsoft it will force people to truly look at what they are getting out of the box. Microsoft is going to try to keep their offerings as close to Sony as possible with a side of Halo. All Sony needs to do is acquaint people with new IP's and some old at launch and endear them to them.