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KhinRunite on 17 February 2012
greenmedic88 said:
KhinRunite said:
greenmedic88 said:
 

You've managed to convince yourself that piracy produces more revenue for the companies producing the content being pirated in addition to believing that the more heavily people pirate, the more legit products they pay for. In other words, the world's biggest pirates contribute more to the gaming industry than those who simply pay for whatever they want to play.

Congratulations.

People say "Screenshots or it didn't happen", or "Where's your data?".

Now we are presented with various studies and still your head is in the sand? I could just imagine how you would have been during the time Galileo proposed heliocentrism.

Piracy is an anomaly in the whole process of selling a commodity. It is a circumvention developed by the comsumer to get away with a copy of the product for free. However not all "pirates" are the same. Some are simply cheap/poor/has no legal access and never intend to buy in the first place, while some use piracy as a means of trying the product. Anyway, I'm not going to elaborate, as I am sure this topic has been discussed innumerable times in this forum and all over the internet. We have studies presented here, and what matters next is the validity of these studies.

I'd say look it up yourself, but we already know where your quasi-religious beliefs in regards to software piracy lie, so

A) you wouldn't

B) even if you did, you would only look at the opinions and studies that support your own beliefs

Real simple.

No, I did not say I supported the results of studies. I said the next step is to find out the validity of these studies. Your judgment about my "quasi-religious belief about software piracy" is ultimately wrong. I simply stated a fact: Not all "pirates" pirate for the simple reason of getting a copy of the game without obligations. I'm aware that in some cases, piracy boosts sales, while in others it led to bankruptcy on the part of the developers.

Unfortunately for you, your "Real Simple" approach towards this led you to a wrong conclusion about me.



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Lafiel on 17 February 2012
vlad321 said:

In today's day and age of absolutely, horrifyingly, ridiculously shitty, overhyped games piracy seems to be the only way to actually see if the game is good, or as is the case significantly more often than not, just hyped up by a lot of dumb sheep. Maybe if there were proper demos this wouldn't be as big of a problem.


Or just proper reading of several reviews and a good understanding of your own preferences could do the trick, but no, thats too hard for many people nowadays as it requires reading skills.

Apart from that in this day and age most games are actually "good". There's hardly any games that are unplayable and only few that control so bad that you can't have any fun with them, but the true "gems" are still as rare as in the past, as most games stick to "tried and true" (creating lesser versions of known blockbusters) and while that can produce "gems" through a lot of refinement it's still easier to be wowed by sth thats completely new.



Panama on 17 February 2012

Games already on sale for 20 bucks over at greenman gaming. You'd have to be pretty damn poor to pirate this one.



SnesTea on 17 February 2012
Slimebeast said:
pezus said:
Slimebeast said:
pezus said:
Slimebeast said:
pezus said:
Slimebeast said:
I think it's wrong to release Alan Wake to a bunch of pirates. When I mostly played PC games I pirated everything. I still never pay for a PC game that doesn't demand a CD key for online play.

Huh, so you actively want devs to stop making PC games?

No lol, it's only because I can.

On consoles I don't know how to do it, it's too cumbersome and I dont want to risk getting banned from PSN/Live.

But you said you think it's wrong for them to release it

Yes, because of pirates like myself.

What about the people that are willing to pay?

They can buy an Xbox 360.

I care more about genuine exclusivity in the console war than the few PC gamers who buy their games. Besides, PC gamers have tons of exclusives and they get 95% of multiplatform games released.

I buy my games and I'm a PC gamer. What's your point?



Slimebeast on 17 February 2012
Khuutra said:
Slimebeast said:
Khuutra said:
Slimebeast said:

I mean that most PC gamers pirate their games.

This is by far, by far the worst conversation I've read on this website

lol, really? You do me too much honor.

Seriously, you must have read all these developer statements on how there's X amount of torrented downloads for each copy sold?

That neither explains nor justifies how you present your own buying habits for PC games.

What do u mean? It's a fact that most PC games are pirated. It's got nothing to do with me, I just happen to follow the same pattern as the majority.



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Mummelmann on 17 February 2012
Lafiel said:
vlad321 said:

In today's day and age of absolutely, horrifyingly, ridiculously shitty, overhyped games piracy seems to be the only way to actually see if the game is good, or as is the case significantly more often than not, just hyped up by a lot of dumb sheep. Maybe if there were proper demos this wouldn't be as big of a problem.


Or just proper reading of several reviews and a good understanding of your own preferences could do the trick, but no, thats too hard for many people nowadays as it requires reading skills.

Apart from that in this day and age most games are actually "good". There's hardly any games that are unplayable and only few that control so bad that you can't have any fun with them, but the true "gems" are still as rare as in the past, as most games stick to "tried and true" (creating lesser versions of known blockbusters) and while that can produce "gems" through a lot of refinement it's still easier to be wowed by sth thats completely new.


Reviews? Where do you think the overhype comes from? This generation is a complete farce as far as braindead games and incredibly silly and inflated reviews are concerned. The fact that a score of 8.5 is considered average nowadays speaks volumes of this idiocy.

I'm not defending piracy, even though I used to pirate a lot myself, but getting a clear view of what a game is all about and how good it actually is is pretty hard today.

PS: How do pirate haters feel about used game purchases? Surely this is robbing the developers of every bit as much money as a pirated copy? Esepcially if the game changes hands several times. Gamestop should burn in hell I suppose.



vlad321 on 17 February 2012
Wagram said:
vlad321 said:
Wagram said:
vlad321 said:
Wagram said:
If a person is a douche enough to pirate, it's highly unlikely that they will cough up the money for future installments. They're cheap people.


Funny story. I hate to burst your bubble of ingnorance, but it was shown that the "douches" who pirate actually end up forking over more money ofr media and media related items than those tight-assed non douches. Just saying.


Don't really care, unless you buy the product first and then pirate I consider a person as a douche. It's theft, even if you pirate first and buy it later.

Oh you poor thing. Did I hurt your feelings when I said that pirates probably end up supporting the industry more than you did? I'm sure there is a word for people who do not change their mind even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Can't quite think of it, you should look it up.


I own over 250 games, a majority of them in this generation now that I EARN, and buy them. I don't steal them, and decide if it's worth buying later or not. If I can't pay for them, I can't get them. It's that simple.

Also there is a word for pirates: Douche.


Jeez only 250? I know consitent pirates who have bought that many legally just between '08 and now. And they have been playing since early/mid 90s. They contirbuted to the industry far more than you have. How does that make you feel?



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

vlad321 on 17 February 2012
Lafiel said:
vlad321 said:

In today's day and age of absolutely, horrifyingly, ridiculously shitty, overhyped games piracy seems to be the only way to actually see if the game is good, or as is the case significantly more often than not, just hyped up by a lot of dumb sheep. Maybe if there were proper demos this wouldn't be as big of a problem.


Or just proper reading of several reviews and a good understanding of your own preferences could do the trick, but no, thats too hard for many people nowadays as it requires reading skills.

Apart from that in this day and age most games are actually "good". There's hardly any games that are unplayable and only few that control so bad that you can't have any fun with them, but the true "gems" are still as rare as in the past, as most games stick to "tried and true" (creating lesser versions of known blockbusters) and while that can produce "gems" through a lot of refinement it's still easier to be wowed by sth thats completely new.

Edit: This was a post ripping you a new one due to your ignorance of today's gaming scene, but mummelman said everythign I had to say more tactfully above.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

Wagram on 17 February 2012
vlad321 said:


Jeez only 250? I know consitent pirates who have bought that many legally just between '08 and now. And they have been playing since early/mid 90s. They contirbuted to the industry far more than you have. How does that make you feel?


Makes me feel good about myself. I know that I bought all of mine. Just bought myself a PSVita. Should have stole it, and tested it out first for a bit though. That's the cool thing to do right?



Wagram on 17 February 2012
pezus said:

Can you download a Vita? "You wouldn't download a car" - fuck yeah, I would.

Shit, why not! We'll figure it out somehow.