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Wagram said:
vlad321 said:
Wagram said:
If a person is a douche enough to pirate, it's highly unlikely that they will cough up the money for future installments. They're cheap people.


Funny story. I hate to burst your bubble of ingnorance, but it was shown that the "douches" who pirate actually end up forking over more money ofr media and media related items than those tight-assed non douches. Just saying.


Don't really care, unless you buy the product first and then pirate I consider a person as a douche. It's theft, even if you pirate first and buy it later.

Oh you poor thing. Did I hurt your feelings when I said that pirates probably end up supporting the industry more than you did? I'm sure there is a word for people who do not change their mind even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Can't quite think of it, you should look it up.



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greenmedic88 said:
vaio said:
greenmedic88 said:
usrevenge said:
pirate game
does it play? do i like it?
if yes to both buy game.
when the entertainment industry understands that this is the process we will be good.

Order meal.

Eat meal. Was it a good meal? Was the service to your liking?

If yes to both, pay for meal.

If no to both, announce to manager you refuse to pay bill or go to bathroom and run out the back door.

Doesn't quite work that way in reality.

That comparison is so retarded and you know it, the food is gone when eaten and money lost, a copy is a copy the original can still be sold!!!

And yes reality works that way with ,music, games and movies.

 

I´ve done it since the nes days and so have everyone I know, piracy is the best consumer tool you can have before making a decision to buy. Whay ever your personal opinion on this is the reality is people like to own the things they like so they buy it.

 

A study commissioned by the Swiss government has found that the country's current piracy laws, which allow downloading of stuff for "personal use", should stay. Because they actually encourage people to buy more stuff.

 

Those downloading music were led to buy more music, and those downloading games were also found to actually be the biggest purchasers of games, etc.

http://kotaku.com/5864996/these-guys-think-piracy-is-ok-because-it-leads-to-sales

The study, commissioned by an unnamed company and performed by the GfK Group, found that users of pirate sites purchase a good deal of content legally, reports German technology site Telepolis.

 

Users of pirate sites on average buy more media content than those who do not use such sites, according to the study, validating the position that many supporters of these sites take that most use it as a way to preview content before they actually purchase it.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/236214/study_casts_pirate_site_users_in_good_light.html

Despite the claims of the MPAA and other supporters of SOPA and PIPA, file-sharing does not negatively impact box office sales in the U.S., according to a new study conducted by economists from Wellesley College and the University of Minnesota.

The study found that longer gaps between a movie’s release in America and its release in foreign countries led to increased piracy in those countries, and correspondingly lower box office sales. The study estimates that pre-release piracy impacted foreign box office sales by as much as 7%
In the U.S., however, box office sales were not impacted by piracy at all. The study concludes that the impact of piracy is driven primarily by the lack of legal availability of content in foreign markets.

http://www.webpronews.com/study-piracy-does-not-harm-u-s-box-office-sales-2012-02

 Digitization has a great influence on.  The research shows that the economic effects of file sharing on the Dutch prosperity on the short and long term are strongly positive

The link is in dutch and the rapport but you can use a traslation tool.

http://www.tno.nl/content.cfm?context=thema&content=inno_publicatie&laag1=897&laag2=918&item_id=473

 

Thats real life for you!!!!!!!

You've managed to convince yourself that piracy produces more revenue for the companies producing the content being pirated in addition to believing that the more heavily people pirate, the more legit products they pay for. In other words, the world's biggest pirates contribute more to the gaming industry than those who simply pay for whatever they want to play.

Congratulations.

People say "Screenshots or it didn't happen", or "Where's your data?".

Now we are presented with various studies and still your head is in the sand? I could just imagine how you would have been during the time Galileo proposed heliocentrism.

Piracy is an anomaly in the whole process of selling a commodity. It is a circumvention developed by the comsumer to get away with a copy of the product for free. However not all "pirates" are the same. Some are simply cheap/poor/has no legal access and never intend to buy in the first place, while some use piracy as a means of trying the product. Anyway, I'm not going to elaborate, as I am sure this topic has been discussed innumerable times in this forum and all over the internet. We have studies presented here, and what matters next is the validity of these studies.



vlad321 said:
Wagram said:
vlad321 said:
Wagram said:
If a person is a douche enough to pirate, it's highly unlikely that they will cough up the money for future installments. They're cheap people.


Funny story. I hate to burst your bubble of ingnorance, but it was shown that the "douches" who pirate actually end up forking over more money ofr media and media related items than those tight-assed non douches. Just saying.


Don't really care, unless you buy the product first and then pirate I consider a person as a douche. It's theft, even if you pirate first and buy it later.

Oh you poor thing. Did I hurt your feelings when I said that pirates probably end up supporting the industry more than you did? I'm sure there is a word for people who do not change their mind even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Can't quite think of it, you should look it up.


I own over 250 games, a majority of them in this generation now that I EARN, and buy them. I don't steal them, and decide if it's worth buying later or not. If I can't pay for them, I can't get them. It's that simple.

Also there is a word for pirates: Douche.



KhinRunite said:
greenmedic88 said:

You've managed to convince yourself that piracy produces more revenue for the companies producing the content being pirated in addition to believing that the more heavily people pirate, the more legit products they pay for. In other words, the world's biggest pirates contribute more to the gaming industry than those who simply pay for whatever they want to play.

Congratulations.

People say "Screenshots or it didn't happen", or "Where's your data?".

Now we are presented with various studies and still your head is in the sand? I could just imagine how you would have been during the time Galileo proposed heliocentrism.

Piracy is an anomaly in the whole process of selling a commodity. It is a circumvention developed by the comsumer to get away with a copy of the product for free. However not all "pirates" are the same. Some are simply cheap/poor/has no legal access and never intend to buy in the first place, while some use piracy as a means of trying the product. Anyway, I'm not going to elaborate, as I am sure this topic has been discussed innumerable times in this forum and all over the internet. We have studies presented here, and what matters next is the validity of these studies.

I'd say look it up yourself, but we already know where your quasi-religious beliefs in regards to software piracy lie, so

A) you wouldn't

B) even if you did, you would only look at the opinions and studies that support your own beliefs

Real simple.



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greenmedic88 said:
KhinRunite said:
greenmedic88 said:
 

You've managed to convince yourself that piracy produces more revenue for the companies producing the content being pirated in addition to believing that the more heavily people pirate, the more legit products they pay for. In other words, the world's biggest pirates contribute more to the gaming industry than those who simply pay for whatever they want to play.

Congratulations.

People say "Screenshots or it didn't happen", or "Where's your data?".

Now we are presented with various studies and still your head is in the sand? I could just imagine how you would have been during the time Galileo proposed heliocentrism.

Piracy is an anomaly in the whole process of selling a commodity. It is a circumvention developed by the comsumer to get away with a copy of the product for free. However not all "pirates" are the same. Some are simply cheap/poor/has no legal access and never intend to buy in the first place, while some use piracy as a means of trying the product. Anyway, I'm not going to elaborate, as I am sure this topic has been discussed innumerable times in this forum and all over the internet. We have studies presented here, and what matters next is the validity of these studies.

I'd say look it up yourself, but we already know where your quasi-religious beliefs in regards to software piracy lie, so

A) you wouldn't

B) even if you did, you would only look at the opinions and studies that support your own beliefs

Real simple.

No, I did not say I supported the results of studies. I said the next step is to find out the validity of these studies. Your judgment about my "quasi-religious belief about software piracy" is ultimately wrong. I simply stated a fact: Not all "pirates" pirate for the simple reason of getting a copy of the game without obligations. I'm aware that in some cases, piracy boosts sales, while in others it led to bankruptcy on the part of the developers.

Unfortunately for you, your "Real Simple" approach towards this led you to a wrong conclusion about me.



vlad321 said:

In today's day and age of absolutely, horrifyingly, ridiculously shitty, overhyped games piracy seems to be the only way to actually see if the game is good, or as is the case significantly more often than not, just hyped up by a lot of dumb sheep. Maybe if there were proper demos this wouldn't be as big of a problem.


Or just proper reading of several reviews and a good understanding of your own preferences could do the trick, but no, thats too hard for many people nowadays as it requires reading skills.

Apart from that in this day and age most games are actually "good". There's hardly any games that are unplayable and only few that control so bad that you can't have any fun with them, but the true "gems" are still as rare as in the past, as most games stick to "tried and true" (creating lesser versions of known blockbusters) and while that can produce "gems" through a lot of refinement it's still easier to be wowed by sth thats completely new.



Games already on sale for 20 bucks over at greenman gaming. You'd have to be pretty damn poor to pirate this one.

Slimebeast said:
pezus said:
Slimebeast said:
pezus said:
Slimebeast said:
pezus said:
Slimebeast said:
I think it's wrong to release Alan Wake to a bunch of pirates. When I mostly played PC games I pirated everything. I still never pay for a PC game that doesn't demand a CD key for online play.

Huh, so you actively want devs to stop making PC games?

No lol, it's only because I can.

On consoles I don't know how to do it, it's too cumbersome and I dont want to risk getting banned from PSN/Live.

But you said you think it's wrong for them to release it

Yes, because of pirates like myself.

What about the people that are willing to pay?

They can buy an Xbox 360.

I care more about genuine exclusivity in the console war than the few PC gamers who buy their games. Besides, PC gamers have tons of exclusives and they get 95% of multiplatform games released.

I buy my games and I'm a PC gamer. What's your point?



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Khuutra said:
Slimebeast said:
Khuutra said:
Slimebeast said:

I mean that most PC gamers pirate their games.

This is by far, by far the worst conversation I've read on this website

lol, really? You do me too much honor.

Seriously, you must have read all these developer statements on how there's X amount of torrented downloads for each copy sold?

That neither explains nor justifies how you present your own buying habits for PC games.

What do u mean? It's a fact that most PC games are pirated. It's got nothing to do with me, I just happen to follow the same pattern as the majority.