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Which Option Do You Think Is More Accurate?

The PS3/360 Is Over/Undertracked In EU. 135 23.48%
 
Ballmer Was Including A Few Jan Shipments. 67 11.65%
 
MS Stuffed The Channels. 246 42.78%
 
IT'S 2012! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE! 123 21.39%
 
Total:571
scat398 on 13 January 2012

Right now we know 360 has shipped about 66.5 million and they have a standard of keeping about 1million in supply chain so sales should be between 65 to 65.5.



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Aj_habfan on 13 January 2012
scat398 said:
Right now we know 360 has shipped about 66.5 million and they have a standard of keeping about 1million in supply chain so sales should be between 65 to 65.5.

I heard 66M, do you have a link for 66.5M? And that standard is your BS.



brendude13 on 13 January 2012
spaceguy said:
brendude13 said:
Some people are still undecided about who won 2011, even Reasonable who's word I would take over anyone else's.

But doesn't VGC say that the PS3 won by 300k, and NPD say that the Xbox 360 was 900k units more overtracked than the PS3, suggesting that it won by 1.2m?

Am I somewhere on the right lines?

NPD is not world wide. ALSO VGCHARTZ GUESS'S IT'S NUMBERS, SO DOES NPD. Um yea they really don't know the real numbers, it's a calculated guess. So who is right? The company that has the numbers or the people trying to guess the numbers. Does anyone remember the past, this place has been a mess. Numbers have been off and it's been by alot. 

even if it's shipped that would put 2.4 million on the store shelfs. Like the comment above explains.

I know NPD is not worldwide, I'm just including the changes to US sales, hoping that VGC's tracking everywhere else is accurate.



Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 13 January 2012

Another theory. Maybe Xbox was under tracked in Japan by a million.



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Silver-Tiger on 13 January 2012
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
Another theory. Maybe Xbox was under tracked in Japan by a million.


Japan sales have been pretty accurate from the past years. Also, MC delivers fairly accurate sales, so your theory is highly unlikely.



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morpheusx on 13 January 2012

MS has always used sold to customers as their measurement. Why would they all of a sudden change?
If they declared number 1 WW they mean sold to consumers and would have the numbers and research to back it up if needed.
I haven't seen anything from Sony that disputes or states otherwise either and they would if they had the numbers just like they did when they tried to release propaganda numbers last year on how Move outsold Kinect by not only using shipped numbers but also counting the number of wands.



fillet on 13 January 2012
BHR-3 said:
yo_john117 said:

At this point I don't even know what the hell is going on. It could be any number of variables so I'm just going to keep my mouth shut and wait until we get the financial reports from Sony and MS give their financial records.

 

EDIT: I will say this though. These new figures that we have gotten pretty much mean the 66 million figure is shipped consoles.


kinda weird since all the MS global announcments ive check VGC has as sold in the timeframe they were announced, it can also mean 65 something rounded up aswell

Can't mean 66 rounded up, it was specified as more than 66 million



psrock on 13 January 2012
morpheusx said:
MS has always used sold to customers as their measurement. Why would they all of a sudden change?
If they declared number 1 WW they mean sold to consumers and would have the numbers and research to back it up if needed.
I haven't seen anything from Sony that disputes or states otherwise either and they would if they had the numbers just like they did when they tried to release propaganda numbers last year on how Move outsold Kinect by not only using shipped numbers but also counting the number of wands.


you haven't seen anything from ms either that they sold over 66 million consoles. 



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scat398 on 13 January 2012
Aj_habfan said:
scat398 said:
Right now we know 360 has shipped about 66.5 million and they have a standard of keeping about 1million in supply chain so sales should be between 65 to 65.5.

I heard 66M, do you have a link for 66.5M? And that standard is your BS.

No but your reply is BS.  I'm using the 66.5 as the middle of the road between 66 and 67 as MS has stated it was over 66.  I understand that could be 66.1 hence the 65 to 65.5 actual based sold based upon "the standard" that MS has consistantly kept a 1 to 1.5 million supply chain.  You don't have to like it (which I have no idea why you wouldn't), but there it is.



MaulerX on 13 January 2012

I think it's a valid point to bring up the fact that Sony has not said a single peep to dispute Microsoft's claim. Because if indeed Sony won, then they are showing a lack of character for not standing up for themselves and allowing Microsoft to continue garnering mindshare.