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theRepublic said:
Every single person complaining about Nintendo's lack of games for the Wii right now is hereby banned from complaining about the Wii U's launch lineup.

You can't have it both ways.


I don't get the logic here, if the Wii U lineup ends up sucking because all of Nintendo is sitting around with their thumbs where the sun doesn't shine why can't I say something about it if the Wii sucked in 2011?



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Torillian said:
theRepublic said:
Every single person complaining about Nintendo's lack of games for the Wii right now is hereby banned from complaining about the Wii U's launch lineup.

You can't have it both ways.


I don't get the logic here, if the Wii U lineup ends up sucking because all of Nintendo is sitting around with their thumbs where the sun doesn't shine why can't I say something about it if the Wii sucked in 2011?


Therepublic's point should have been more along the lines of

 

Those who complained about the 3DS launch lineup (or praised the 3DS christmas lineup) are hereby banned from complaining about the Wii's 2011.

 

The thing is, Nintendo are a fairly small company, considering they have recently been developing games for 4 consoles. By contrast, Sony - who has many more developers, only has 3 consoles to make games for, and they will probably stop development for the PSP as they ramp up towards the PS4 launch.

 

MS, whilst smaller, has only 1(or maybe 2) consoles to develop for at the moment, and they can rely on third parties a bit more.

 

Nintendo can't give all of it's consoles great years, and this year the Wii took one for the team. Nintendo need to hire more developers, but if they do it too quickly, they will have to sacrifice quality of games, which, as the company with the highest average metacritic score for their games, I am sure they are loath to do.



This was a pretty weak year for the Wii, the worst it has had. It is not, however, in the same company as the weakest one year lineups any console or handheld has had in the history of video gaming by any means. Just looking at this page gives one the idea of what 1/10 years would look like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronological_list_of_PC_Engine_games
That system actually has some pretty good games on it, but by the end things were really falling apart. If you took out Zelda SS Wii's 2011 would have still been a fairly good any year for the TG16, and it's not exactly the epitome of fail in gaming (just, you know, outside of Japan). Look at any year of the Atari Jaguar, for example. Don't make me bust out a list. There's all sorts of fail to talk about, this year for the Wii, as far as failures go, was either the least epic fail ever or the most for being ridiculously profitable while "failing."

Now, where the real failure does lie here is in the deteriorating relations with 3rd parties. By 2008 it was obvious Wii was going to come out on top AND that there was plenty of time for real 3rd party efforts to have caught on to the long developing trend, but even today I can hardly think of any. Most core games don't get ported to the Wii and the ones that do are often crippled in a way that can't be blamed on the hardware. Let's take, for example, the fact that online support from third parties has been pretty weak. Are they just getting complacent because Sony and MS will handle most of that? Well, a lot of them still produce plenty of PC games where they have to develop it themselves so, no, probably not. They're probably becoming indignant, because Nintendo won't pay for something that wasn't free a generation ago.

Basically, aside from a handful of examples, the only support they are getting now from 3rd parties is either stuff guaranteed to sell to people who don't care that they aren't getting a full-featured (graphics aside, even) version of the game available that is on other consoles, don't care that they are getting a a heavily altered spin-off of a game, or don't care that the game had such a low budget that it barely needs to sell at all to make some money. And if they fail at any of those three they think it's not their fault, it's Nintendo's.

What can Nintendo do to fix that? Throw a hell of a lot of cash out there to appease the third parties. And that's it. Dive back into the red ocean, admit they made a "mistake" and hope their timing is just right to take advantage of their relatively early transition. I've been a fan of Nintendo's through thick and thin, and it's time for them to win multiplat support back asap. This is the first year where I could just say "yeah, I didn't really care all that much about what Nintendo released last year so I played none of it" since, um, ever. I kinda want to play that new Kirby, but I don't actually care all that much, and Zelda and I parted ways after OoT was so much of what I didn't want the series to be. I also have about as much thought towards their 3P support (I'd like to try out Just Dance 3, or even one of the first two maybe), and that's just ridiculous because even if Nintendo walks away a tad early to support the next system 3rd parties tend to stick around longer.

TL;DR

Nintendo's real problem is with 3rd parties which, as a collective, have generally treated the Wii as a nuisance. There was so much potential and they quashed their own share of it because Nintendo wouldn't pay them to take the profits they could have earned. The industry is a damn shame from basically every angle, and Nintendo needs to lower themselves to entertaining that shame in order to survive the next generation because tablet controllers aren't nearly the revolution that wiimotes were by any stretch.



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Torillian said:
theRepublic said:
Every single person complaining about Nintendo's lack of games for the Wii right now is hereby banned from complaining about the Wii U's launch lineup.

You can't have it both ways.

I don't get the logic here, if the Wii U lineup ends up sucking because all of Nintendo is sitting around with their thumbs where the sun doesn't shine why can't I say something about it if the Wii sucked in 2011?

If you want games for the Wii now, it would mean taking resources away from Wii U games.

If Nintendo had done more for Wii now, it would mean less for Wii U at launch.  Which means the launch library for the Wii U would be weaker than it would have been otherwise.  So the complainers were actually asking for a weaker Wii U launch lineup than they will get.  Therefore, they are not allowed to complain when something turns out better than what they asked for.



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Guys, every console at the end has less games.

You want to have a good launch market for the WiiU, or you want the same start as the 3DS? (for fanboys: now it's doing good, because there are good games)



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DemoniOtaku said:
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sales2099 said:
Wii won this gen. Theres no reason to pump out more games

So +90m of users that put their money on the system doesn´t deserve any more good games more thatn a few at years?

 

That's what a HATE of Nintendo politics of drop a system after the announce of a new one... that hapenned with N64 and NGC, now with the Wii and the Ds too... they just don´t care about the people that already invested on their systems...


It's not that they don't care but they have not the choice.

no choice how? Explain it to me Please... Me do not understand XD

Nintendo can only support 2 consoles, when a system is lauching they can't continue to support the predecessor. They are not able to do more.



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BasilZero said:
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mushroomboy5 said:
As a fan of nintendo since the early 90's I'm always surprised when people seem shocked that nintendo leave large gaps when no games seem to be released. They've been pulling this shit for years esp close to the release of their new consoles.
They never change and I doubt they ever will.


I think since the Wii is more popular than the GC or N64 that they would do like Sony and keep the Wii around for a while after their new console launched. 


I hope third parties will take advantage of the Wii even when the Wii-U comes out, I'm pretty sure some of them can still make games that will sell out especially when the price tag for the Wii-U is still in question, Nintendo can make the Wii the next PS2 IF they allow 3rd party support for it and continue to sell their systems.

I totally agree this is what SHOULD happen but I doubt it will, esp considering there's very little keeping the console afloat now.



Wii is running on the fumes of fumes, plain and simple.



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