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M.U.G.E.N on 27 November 2011
IamAwsome said:
PullusPardus said:
RolStoppable said:
PullusPardus said:

where is my Jak and Daxter sequel then? =[

Sony milks an IP for what it's worth and then moves on. Jak and Daxter fell below the treshold where it was worth continuing, so its developers were encouraged to move on to something new. Of the three PS2 platformer series, only the bestselling one was continued on the PS3. Everything that doesn't sell well enough anymore is either discontinued or handed to a second tier development studio.


@Bolded

so how is that different from Nintendo?

Nintendo also doesn't hand it's most valuable IPs to less competent developers, the only time they did was when they handed Metroid to, at the time, unproven Retro. This gen alone, LittleBigPlanet, Resistance, God of War, Sly Cooper, and what was supposed to be Playstation Move Heroes, all at one point, were seeded to smaller developers, and I'll bet that Resistance, LBP, and inFamous will be in the hands of smaller devs next gen. Do you see Nintendo handing Mario and Zelda off to whoever asks for it? No. 


umm I don't think they just hand it over to people who 'ask' for it >_> doubt that's how it works

and fyi, even people mentioned games like move heroes as bad games that came out of such a move, no one mentioned Ready at dawn games etc. They were fantastic games and the quality was very very high. so no, not everything is about ninty vs sony. they are different companies, they do things differently, doesn't mean A is better than B or vice versa. and also aren't there bunch of spin off mario games done by smaller devs? who made Mario Tennis?



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M.U.G.E.N on 27 November 2011

oh and OT: I HOPE I HOPE I HOPE this more serious fighting game and hopefully more like MvC than SSB, tho I will definitely buy it either way just cuz of the fan service :S Sackboy vs Kratos ftw!



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green_sky on 27 November 2011
o_O.Q said:
bobgamez said:
lol and all the sony fans say super smash brothers is stupid is having an orgy. lol so much irony

it'll probably fall flat on it's face though, not enough iconic characters

who here specifically said smash bros was stupid?

No one. 



ElGranCabeza on 27 November 2011
leatherhat said:
ElGranCabeza said:
This is gonna suck and sell horrible and I'll tell you why:

1) No recognizable character worldwide. Kratos is not that famous in EU/Japan, Drake not famous in Japan, and everything else not famous anywhere
2) Developer is unknown. Remember when Sony gave 3 of its biggest mascots to the horrible Nihilistic Software and they made one of the worst games of all time? They then rewarded them by having them make Resistance Vita which so far looks pretty fucking bad? Yeah, expect more of the same. MNR was supposed to be Mario Kart like but it sucked and the load times actually put me to sleep. Nothing Mario Kart about that.

I thought for sure you would support this game

Why? The concept itself is pretty stupid, but Nintendo is able to pull it off because their characters are pretty damn popular worldwide, this has bomba written all over it, even more so than the Mario Kart clone, MNR.



ElGranCabeza on 27 November 2011
green_sky said:
o_O.Q said:
bobgamez said:
lol and all the sony fans say super smash brothers is stupid is having an orgy. lol so much irony

it'll probably fall flat on it's face though, not enough iconic characters

who here specifically said smash bros was stupid?

No one. 

Well, I think the concept is stupid and I don't like SSMB at all.



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IamAwsome on 27 November 2011
M.U.G.E.N said:
IamAwsome said:
PullusPardus said:
RolStoppable said:
PullusPardus said:

where is my Jak and Daxter sequel then? =[

Sony milks an IP for what it's worth and then moves on. Jak and Daxter fell below the treshold where it was worth continuing, so its developers were encouraged to move on to something new. Of the three PS2 platformer series, only the bestselling one was continued on the PS3. Everything that doesn't sell well enough anymore is either discontinued or handed to a second tier development studio.


@Bolded

so how is that different from Nintendo?

Nintendo also doesn't hand it's most valuable IPs to less competent developers, the only time they did was when they handed Metroid to, at the time, unproven Retro. This gen alone, LittleBigPlanet, Resistance, God of War, Sly Cooper, and what was supposed to be Playstation Move Heroes, all at one point, were seeded to smaller developers, and I'll bet that Resistance, LBP, and inFamous will be in the hands of smaller devs next gen. Do you see Nintendo handing Mario and Zelda off to whoever asks for it? No. 


umm I don't think they just hand it over to people who 'ask' for it >_> doubt that's how it works

and fyi, even people mentioned games like move heroes as bad games that came out of such a move, no one mentioned Ready at dawn games etc. They were fantastic games and the quality was very very high. so no, not everything is about ninty vs sony. they are different companies, they do things differently, doesn't mean A is better than B or vice versa. and also aren't there bunch of spin off mario games done by smaller devs? who made Mario Tennis?

According to an article on g4tv.com, it works something like that, but not exactly. 

The PSP GOW games were good, but the difference is that Ready at Dawn is a proven dev (They made Daxter), and Nhilistic isn't (They've been in business since '95 and haven't made a decently reviewed game yet). 

It's not necesserily about Nintendo vs Sony, it's just that Sony makes some questionable decisions reguarding their IPs. 

Mario Tennis was made by Camelot, which unlike Nhilistic, is a proven dev. 



M.U.G.E.N on 27 November 2011
IamAwsome said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
IamAwsome said:
PullusPardus said:
RolStoppable said:
PullusPardus said:

where is my Jak and Daxter sequel then? =[

Sony milks an IP for what it's worth and then moves on. Jak and Daxter fell below the treshold where it was worth continuing, so its developers were encouraged to move on to something new. Of the three PS2 platformer series, only the bestselling one was continued on the PS3. Everything that doesn't sell well enough anymore is either discontinued or handed to a second tier development studio.


@Bolded

so how is that different from Nintendo?

Nintendo also doesn't hand it's most valuable IPs to less competent developers, the only time they did was when they handed Metroid to, at the time, unproven Retro. This gen alone, LittleBigPlanet, Resistance, God of War, Sly Cooper, and what was supposed to be Playstation Move Heroes, all at one point, were seeded to smaller developers, and I'll bet that Resistance, LBP, and inFamous will be in the hands of smaller devs next gen. Do you see Nintendo handing Mario and Zelda off to whoever asks for it? No. 


umm I don't think they just hand it over to people who 'ask' for it >_> doubt that's how it works

and fyi, even people mentioned games like move heroes as bad games that came out of such a move, no one mentioned Ready at dawn games etc. They were fantastic games and the quality was very very high. so no, not everything is about ninty vs sony. they are different companies, they do things differently, doesn't mean A is better than B or vice versa. and also aren't there bunch of spin off mario games done by smaller devs? who made Mario Tennis?

According to an article on g4tv.com, it works something like that, but not exactly. 

The PSP GOW games were good, but the difference is that Ready at Dawn is a proven dev (They made Daxter), and Nhilistic isn't (They've been in business since '95 and haven't made a decently reviewed game yet). 

It's not necesserily about Nintendo vs Sony, it's just that Sony makes some questionable decisions reguarding their IPs. 

Mario Tennis was made by Camelot, which unlike Nhilistic, is a proven dev. 


Daxter is also an important game for Sony and Ready at Dawn did wonders with that one as well

All I'm saying all companies have made such deceisions. and I would say don't rely on g4tv for anything factual like that. Chances are the company showed some promise in the work they presented Sony. could be hit or miss really. And Resistance is an IP that is declining in popularity, it's not like they gave them Uncharted or GOW

and I'm just curious, what have camelot done to make them a proven dev? I just checked on wiki and it all just lists some genesis IP >_> I would hardly call that as as being 'proven' ..maybe we just have different ideas of that term. I mean you do realize Nhilistic have made some known games before too right? Like Conan, Marvel Nemesis etc. 



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Torillian on 27 November 2011
ElGranCabeza said:
leatherhat said:
ElGranCabeza said:
This is gonna suck and sell horrible and I'll tell you why:

1) No recognizable character worldwide. Kratos is not that famous in EU/Japan, Drake not famous in Japan, and everything else not famous anywhere
2) Developer is unknown. Remember when Sony gave 3 of its biggest mascots to the horrible Nihilistic Software and they made one of the worst games of all time? They then rewarded them by having them make Resistance Vita which so far looks pretty fucking bad? Yeah, expect more of the same. MNR was supposed to be Mario Kart like but it sucked and the load times actually put me to sleep. Nothing Mario Kart about that.

I thought for sure you would support this game

Why? The concept itself is pretty stupid, but Nintendo is able to pull it off because their characters are pretty damn popular worldwide, this has bomba written all over it, even more so than the Mario Kart clone, MNR.

Nintendo made a subgenre with the kart racer, they still clearly own it but how long does a company have to wait until they're just making a kart racer and it isn't a mario kart clone.

 

Anyway, MNR sold 870,000 on PS3 and has an offshoot on PSP and a sequel planned for Vita, compared to the 10+million Mario Kart sells it's small, but it's no bomb.    And it certainly isn't a bad game either, atleast according to most people since it has the same meta score as the last Mario Kart.  Loading sucked but other than that it was a fun, well designed game.



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AdventWolf on 27 November 2011

A lot of people are missing the point, a while back there was a topic that asked about Super Smash Bros and how it made people play other games. A lot of people played Super Smash Bros but only knew a few characters, but the game introduced them to the other characters and so they played the other games.
This game does not have to have a multitude of super omega epic characters, the gameplay makes the game and it will introduce people to the other characters. It's called marketing!



ASStronaut on 27 November 2011
PullusPardus said:
bouzane said:


Nintendo invented cross-over fighting games? That certainly is news to me.

@ASStronaut

If serious, you really aren't much of a gamer :/


don't bother he's a big ass of a troll

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