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Carl on 17 June 2011

Updating this thread now we have the new set of Financials.

Carl2291 said:

Wii Worldwide -
87,643,812 units sold as of end of June
87,570,000 shipped at the end of June
Hugely overtracked again. Something seriously wrong with the tracking here, honestly.

Wii Americas -
42,100,209 units sold as of end of June
41,710,000 shipped at the end of June
Hugely overtracked here too, still. Has been obvious for like 3 Months to everyone with eyes.

DS Worldwide -
147,634,754 units sold as of end of June
147,860,000 shipped at the end of June
Overtracked once again. No where near enough units on shelves/ships. Also...

DS Americas -
55,791,770 units sold as of end of June
55,690,000 shipped at the end of June

DS has sold more than it's shipped in Americas once again here.

So you know I'm not making the numbers up... http://www.vgchartz.com/article/87380/nintendo-loses-323m-cuts-3ds-price-globally-lowers-forecasts/#comment_432733 ... They come from Nintendo.

So yeah. This is the 2nd Quarter in a row where Wii/DS have been overtracked.

Just as an addition, I'm gonna look at the 3DS. I think it's been undertracked, but who knows?

3DS Worldwide -
3,140,231 units sold as of end of June
4,320,000 shipped at the end of June

3DS EMEAA (Others) -
904,883 units sold as of end of June
1,630,000 shipped at the end of June

EMEAA looks fairly hugely undertracked to me, especially considering that they shipped an extra 300,000 3DS systems there over the last 3 Months.



                            

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D-Joe on 17 June 2011

many people waiting adjustment
well not just Wii and DS
and still waiting



http://zh-tw.justin.tv/johndoe1899

kingofwale on 17 June 2011

Nintendo products have been overtracked in years.

and don't get me started with PS2 tracking...

don't hold your breathe



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
Carl on 17 June 2011
kingofwale said:
Nintendo products have been overtracked in years.

and don't get me started with PS2 tracking...

don't hold your breathe


The difference with the PS2 tracking is that we don't know where it's undertracked. ioi simply can't just add numbers onto a certain area.



                            

enrageorange on 17 June 2011

im sure they are just trying to figure out when specifically they were overtracking and when they can't will just wing it. It will be fixed sooner or later.



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kingofwale on 17 June 2011
Carl2291 said:
kingofwale said:
Nintendo products have been overtracked in years.

and don't get me started with PS2 tracking...

don't hold your breathe


The difference with the PS2 tracking is that we don't know where it's undertracked. ioi simply can't just add numbers onto a certain area.


tracking are just tracking, if the only reason for continuing to be inaccurate is you can't get it 100% right, then what's the point of this whole thing?


Also every single NDP showed PS3 undertracked and Wii overtrack. Frankly, I'm just used to it.



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
thetonestarr on 17 June 2011

A big reason it's not been fixed yet is probably because they're checking whether everything's overtracked, not just Wii and DS. Chances are that it's most definitely not just DS and Wii; it's just that it's most evident with both of those.



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Carl on 17 June 2011

Something else to add.

As of the end of March, Nintendo said that there were 103 games on the Wii that had shipped 1 Million units.

VGChartz, at the same time, has the Wii sitting at 116 games that had sold 1 Million units.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/26143


Wii Software and Hardware are heavily overtracked here.
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@thetonestarr

I don't think it would take almost 2 Months to figure that one out. Especially when you look at the PS3/360 shipped to sold numbers, they actually look reasonable (Give/take 100k)



                            

Seece on 17 June 2011
kingofwale said:
Carl2291 said:
kingofwale said:
Nintendo products have been overtracked in years.

and don't get me started with PS2 tracking...

don't hold your breathe


The difference with the PS2 tracking is that we don't know where it's undertracked. ioi simply can't just add numbers onto a certain area.


tracking are just tracking, if the only reason for continuing to be inaccurate is you can't get it 100% right, then what's the point of this whole thing?


Also every single NDP showed PS3 undertracked and Wii overtrack. Frankly, I'm just used to it.

Maybe when you were regular a few years ago, not anymore. It's a mixed bag for all 3, and this month we were spot on for everything bar 3DS.



 

kingofwale on 17 June 2011
Seece said:
kingofwale said:
Carl2291 said:
kingofwale said:
Nintendo products have been overtracked in years.

and don't get me started with PS2 tracking...

don't hold your breathe


The difference with the PS2 tracking is that we don't know where it's undertracked. ioi simply can't just add numbers onto a certain area.


tracking are just tracking, if the only reason for continuing to be inaccurate is you can't get it 100% right, then what's the point of this whole thing?


Also every single NDP showed PS3 undertracked and Wii overtrack. Frankly, I'm just used to it.

Maybe when you were regular a few years ago, not anymore. It's a mixed bag for all 3, and this month we were spot on for everything bar 3DS.


possibly, just haven't been on here as much due to work... and the fact this website is becoming increasingly harder to navigate



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)