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freebs2 on 23 May 2011
SpartenOmega117 said:
Galaki said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

The 3DS still shouldn't cost that much. An ideal price would be $179.99 or even $199.99. And BTW A LOT of people on these forums complain about the prices of apple products

Contrary what what many people believe, the price-worth is not based on how much the raw materials cost. Technology doesn't come free.

How much it's worth is largely based on how useful it is. Its preceived value, that is, which is varied for everyone.


Well with im pretty sure the 3DS will never be "useful" enough to cost $250. The market is just wayyy to competetive for it.$200 ipod touch 8gb vs $250 2gb Nintendo 3ds.  Im not an apple fan but I and I believe most teenagers  in high school would choose and ipod touch.

True the price is too high, but you have also to consider that price is also depending on target audience. I mean, different groups of people are willing to pay different prices for the same product. Imo Nintendo, atm is not targeting at high school teenagers or at kids in general , but they are targeting at core gamers and DS enthusiasts, people who are willing to pay even an high price for it.(btw, core games and enthusiasts are generally the ones who buy consoles on launch anyway). This is giving them 2 advantages imo, they have a bigger profit margin, and also they can avoid 3DS to eat out too much market shares from DS. Plus, they have the option to cut the price when NGP comes out, if they need to.



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Hephaestos on 23 May 2011
Metallicube said:

Seriously, I have bought (or recieved) every Nintendo console made, well besides the disaster known as Virtual Boy. But this may be the first time I actually opt out of a Nintendo console in favor of a Sony one. The 3DS hasn't done much to impress me in terms of its library as of yet. I was initially excited about the 3D aspects, and was very relieved to hear that you didn't need to spend an arm and a leg, and wear those lame glasses just to watch 3D. But as I've always said, games are what makes the console, and I don't see many for the 3DS that really give me a reason to run out and get one, especially at $250. There is Mario Kart, Zelda, and that's really about it right now, and the latter is basically a port.  I am curiously waiting for the new Mario and Paper Mario games, but that is all I see in the forseeable future that I would even consider buying.

Add this to the fact that the 3D has been said to cause eye strain, and headaches, and these are the last things I need with my already deteriorating eye sight and frequent headaches. Not sure how true these reports are, but I'd rather not take the risk. It's pretty ridiculous that you should run ANY sort of negative risks when playing games, even if the chances stand at like 10%. It's nice that you can turn down or off the 3D, but then, really, what's the point of owning a 3DS over its predecessor? Might as well at least wait until the price drops, and stick with my DS until it does.

The NGP, meanwhile, already has as many, if not more games that I would want, in Uncharted, Call of Duty, LBP, and Monster Hunter. I also would prefer the dual analogue sticks to just one. The 3DS design in general seems clunky and awkward. I don't really like the fact that the top screen is a different size from the bottom, but maybe I'm just OCD :P

I liked the DS because it was sort of doing its own thing. It had games that were designed completely for the handheld experience, and were these great "pick up and play" type of games. But now it seems like Nintendo is trying to be like Sony, and go back to their ways of cinematic, epic games. So I figure, it both handhelds are going to be like this, might as well go for the one with more experience in these type of games.

I'm still taking a wait and see approach, but if NGP launches for cheaper than the 3DS, you can bet I will almost certainly be opting for that platform instead. If it costs more though, I might just sit this gen of handhelds out, at least for several years. There are always those Iphone micro games for really cheap, and there are plenty more DS games I can check out.

Just seems like a weak showing on the handheld front so far, particularly from Nintendo. Anyone else feel this way?

didn't bother reading the thread, but if your biggest beef is the current software lineup... do consider that by the time the NPG actually has decent software (and that won't be at it's launch either), the 3DS will have quite a few gems already.

They are not 2 competing products, Sony opted to keep the experiences significantly different by not having a second screen, nor 3D and instead focus on horsepower... so you should be fine whatever the choice you make.



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kcoward on 23 May 2011
SpartenOmega117 said:
kcoward said:
Chevinator123 said:
Grandia said:

You expect seriously a lower price for the NGP than what the 3DS has now? In which world do you life? The NGP is going to be a real powerfull System and will  easily outperform the 3DS performance. You may expect at least 300$ rather 350$ at the Releas. The 3DS really has a moderate price point in my opinion, 250$ is not that much. I got mine at 230$ that i a good price, the original Nintendo DS also cost 200$ at its Releas. There are only 30$ difference and the 3DS will soon get all the awesome Games.

 

But if you think the  NGP will offera better package for you than spar your money and wait for the NGP.


The NGP price definly wont be lower then the 3DS but i dont think itll be higher then 300$ (Well the 3G version probly will) The 3DS cost Nintendo 101-103$ to make right? Sony have said that they will be selling the NGP at a loss...This is why i find it hard to beleve the NGP will cost x3 more then the 3DS manufactoring costs if they plan to sell the NGP at a loss

i think ittl cost 249$ or 299$ for the WIFI version

But nintendo will probably price cut the 3DS before the NGP comes out anyway

I also think the bettery life should be pretty decent because of the OLED screen. Most screens on handheld devices are LCD screens with backlight behind it. But the OLED is plastic and does not need a backlight thus = it basicly uses no power at all, and we all know what consumes most of the power in handheld devices...the LCD screen and its backlight. (OLEDs are also pretty cheap to make

So what if a 3DS cost 100 dollars to make. They have to make back money that they spent in research and development, shipments and paying their employees/ rent for the company building etc. Its basic business knowledge. An Iphone 4 cost a lot less to make but is a hell of a lot more expensive than a 3DS and no one complains about that. If Nintendo is making a profit im sure its not even that much and when they make back the money for R&D thats when you will see price drops.


The 3DS still shouldn't cost that much. An ideal price would be $179.99 or even $199.99. And BTW A LOT of people on these forums complain about the prices of apple products

The price is ideal. Nintendo increased their funding in R&D over the years so they want to make back that money. Unline Sony and Microsoft who make profits elsewhere Nintendo's only profits come from games and consoles. When they make back enough money thats when you see price drops.



Jumpin on 23 May 2011
AngelosL said:
Jumpin said:

Yeah, I find it funny how you list Zelda as "just a port" but then have a list of downgraded ports as the games on your list for the NGP. Honestly, I am not too impressed by NGP's graphics:

I hope you are joking....That's Neo Geo Pocket , a 1999 handheld


Neo Geo Pocket = NGP



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NoirSon on 25 May 2011
Jumpin said:
AngelosL said:
Jumpin said:

Yeah, I find it funny how you list Zelda as "just a port" but then have a list of downgraded ports as the games on your list for the NGP. Honestly, I am not too impressed by NGP's graphics:

I hope you are joking....That's Neo Geo Pocket , a 1999 handheld


Neo Geo Pocket = NGP


That NGP had some good games. It just sucks they half assed it going monochrome at first and then color later. It was like boxing match where the champ plays with his opponent for 3-4 rounds, the way Nintendo handled the original Neo Geo pockets systems and Wonderswan.



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Runa216 on 27 May 2011

Honestly? I bought the 3DS already, and I'm regretting it.  Never before have I regretted buying a game system as much as this.  There's nothing worse than saying "I have hundreds of dollars in my account, I want to buy a new 3DS game" and realizing there's NOTHING on the 3DS I can't get elsewhere...and better.  the only 'good' game on the system is Super Street Fighter IV, and I'm not sold on that one in the least (though I may give in and get it anyway).  Ocarina of Time is just a remake of a remake of a remake with pretty 3D.  This system needs it's zelda, it's pokemon, it's mario, and it's mariokart to sell. As it is, it's honsestly sitting in it's slot in my laptop case, my PSP is getting more use than this.  

The NGP actually has me excited, massively so.  Uncharted alone is enough to make me interested.  



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midorigreen on 28 May 2011
Runa216 said:

Honestly? I bought the 3DS already, and I'm regretting it.  Never before have I regretted buying a game system as much as this.  There's nothing worse than saying "I have hundreds of dollars in my account, I want to buy a new 3DS game" and realizing there's NOTHING on the 3DS I can't get elsewhere...and better.  the only 'good' game on the system is Super Street Fighter IV, and I'm not sold on that one in the least (though I may give in and get it anyway).  Ocarina of Time is just a remake of a remake of a remake with pretty 3D.  This system needs it's zelda, it's pokemon, it's mario, and it's mariokart to sell. As it is, it's honsestly sitting in it's slot in my laptop case, my PSP is getting more use than this.  

The NGP actually has me excited, massively so.  Uncharted alone is enough to make me interested.

Well then if you weren't confidented in the 3DS's Library then you should have just waited for the price to drop and the games you wanted to come out first instead of complaining only after you bought the system. I can understand why some people are upset about the games being released so far, but really it seems rather hypocritical of people complaining about the 3DS's game situation and saying there going to drop the 3DS in favor of the NGP when the NGP hasn't even been released yet and won't be until christmas and we haven't even gotten any real information about the games on the system or when the games are coming out. people should at least wait until the NGP comes out before making their final desision, as for me I've already gotten a 3DS and am perfectly happy with it and the game situation mainly because I use it mainly as a replacement for my DS and haven't had a chance to play many of the games coming out such as DoA, SSF4, and Resident Evil on other systems.



demonfox13 on 28 May 2011

Being able to play KZ multiplayer on the train to work ?!?!? on a 1 hour trainride!!! that alone would make the NGP worth it. If you are able to play COD multiplayer, the NGP WILL sell gangbusters and I can guarantee that. Using 3G to play many multiplayer games will be a huge selling point for the NGP if they are smart about it and it can still be treated as a pickup and play. Imagine being able to play a 5 min deathmatch ? what more pickup and play do you want than that? Only time will tell.



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Slimebeast on 28 May 2011

Fail decision to make now. How much do you even know about the PSP2 and its games?

3DS will be a huge success and have a huge library of games by the time PSP2 is even out in the West.



Slimebeast on 28 May 2011
SpartenOmega117 said:
Galaki said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

The 3DS still shouldn't cost that much. An ideal price would be $179.99 or even $199.99. And BTW A LOT of people on these forums complain about the prices of apple products

Contrary what what many people believe, the price-worth is not based on how much the raw materials cost. Technology doesn't come free.

How much it's worth is largely based on how useful it is. Its preceived value, that is, which is varied for everyone.


Well with im pretty sure the 3DS will never be "useful" enough to cost $250. The market is just wayyy to competetive for it.$200 ipod touch 8gb vs $250 2gb Nintendo 3ds.  Im not an apple fan but I and I believe most teenagers  in high school would choose and ipod touch.

To play MP3s yes but not to play games with. What gamer would choose Angry Birds and Infinity Blade over Zelda and Mario? Com'on, Nintendo is not out after those type of people. 3DS is a gaming device, not a media player like iPod.

And as for the launch price $250 for 3DS. First, if something is pricey it's gotta be Apple products. An iPhone costs like $650 and people still buy it in millions!

Second, didn't most recent handhelds such as the DS and PSP start at $250? Nintendo did it because the could, since the 3DS would sell nicely anyway (instead of being constantly out of stock and annoy customers like the Wii shortage situation).

The 3DS might drop to $199 as early as this Holiday season = huge sales.