Kasz216 said: It's just for some dumbass reason they force you to go through PSN to use said servers. It's the same with Xbox Live... |
I think it's for information harvesting.
Kasz216 said: It's just for some dumbass reason they force you to go through PSN to use said servers. It's the same with Xbox Live... |
I think it's for information harvesting.
MaxwellGT2000 said:
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I agree of course.
Belgian indie retailer Gameswap
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Let's pick a retail thing that no one in Belgium basically has EVER heard of and make it a part of the statement to "show" something ... if they had asked Fnac / Game Mania / ... then I could accept it a bit more, but gameswap, really?
I had quite the entertaining revelation right now. Every Sony drone on these forums has rattled off the same thing. You know mantra makes it happen and all. They all say after the PSN comes back up it will be unhackable. I guess the history of hubris is written in some lost language. I am also sure vague phrasing is a bulletproof blanket. Aside from the sidesteps that are there. What will happen if the PSN suffers another large hack again. Not to Sony. I know most people aren't huge idiots. I know the console will obtain the same status as the Dreamcast in most eyes.
I want to know how the drones on these forums will behave. I am curious to see what a mass of people passing their own breaking points at the same time would look like. To be honest given the forces arrayed against Sony, and the past conduct of the company. I see them being right back to complacent in less then a year. Then once that happens I can see the lapses in judgement returning.
I know a lot of these fanatics haven't even considered a worst case scenario, and what that might mean for them. Even though it is a fifty/fifty proposition. Either Sony does the job right, or they do the job wrong. Anyone care to comment on how another such failure will make them feel, or what they will do if it happens. For all the comments about stupid sellers maybe five or six months from right now they will seem like geniuses
papflesje said: Belgian indie retailer Gameswap
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Let's pick a retail thing that no one in Belgium basically has EVER heard of and make it a part of the statement to "show" something ... if they had asked Fnac / Game Mania / ... then I could accept it a bit more, but gameswap, really? |
It is a popular store in Gent....And you were from Antwerp right? Maybe it is time to face Belgium is more than Antwerp =p.
Dodece said: I had quite the entertaining revelation right now. Every Sony drone on these forums has rattled off the same thing. You know mantra makes it happen and all. They all say after the PSN comes back up it will be unhackable. I guess the history of hubris is written in some lost language. I am also sure vague phrasing is a bulletproof blanket. Aside from the sidesteps that are there. What will happen if the PSN suffers another large hack again. Not to Sony. I know most people aren't huge idiots. I know the console will obtain the same status as the Dreamcast in most eyes. I want to know how the drones on these forums will behave. I am curious to see what a mass of people passing their own breaking points at the same time would look like. To be honest given the forces arrayed against Sony, and the past conduct of the company. I see them being right back to complacent in less then a year. Then once that happens I can see the lapses in judgement returning. I know a lot of these fanatics haven't even considered a worst case scenario, and what that might mean for them. Even though it is a fifty/fifty proposition. Either Sony does the job right, or they do the job wrong. Anyone care to comment on how another such failure will make them feel, or what they will do if it happens. For all the comments about stupid sellers maybe five or six months from right now they will seem like geniuses |
I'm no drone but I already commented on that, right now I'm working under the assumption they are competent and the only reason it's down so long is that they are doing it right, if they get hacked again I'll be the first in line calling them incompetent idiots though nothing much will chance since I just use psn cards anyways and I like the games and I don't see MS as any better, will give nintendo more weight on my choice for next gen though
UltimateUnknown said: I can say personally that the bad rep never dies down. I think its a rule of the internet, if you fuck something up it will never ever be forgotten. I mean my 360 has been nearly 2 years now (this is my first one) and I have had 0 issues with it. But every time I go anywhere online, people are always stating how they were on their 10th 360 before they finally gave up and switched. This makes me think either I am one of the luckiest gamers alive or they are blatantly overexagerating lying, and I am inclined to believe its the latter. |
I'm just going to point out here that Nintendo's kiddy image can be traced back to Mortal Kombat on the SNES not having any blood. That's what... 20 years ago, and that shit still sticks with them today.
If Sony get a bad rep from this, it's going to be interesting to see them try to throw it off. I wouldn't read too much into these stories of trade ins though, I'd only think they'd be concerned if these stories continued to pop up and sales declined at the same time, and that's going to be a more medium term thing before we can see that impact if it even happens.
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MaxwellGT2000 said:
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It would create hacking and cheaters that Sony wouldn't have any control over it and it would also make it impossible to switch between servers with a character so if the server is down you still can't play your character with your account and I was talking about the p2p games not dedicated server games, no1 is going to go out of their way for a waiting room and if the game makers did it it makes having one account for all games impossible and everything related to that, a open network just isn't a option on a closed system
Kasz216 said:
I wouldn't say NOBODY saw this coming. People did see it coming... people specifically warned sony about security procedures and I mean... I know I thought something of Sony's would get hacked after they decided to harass hackers. aside from which... normal maintence of each server... are you suggesting the PS3 servers don't go under maitence now? Cause... they do... |
Of course I know Sony servers go through maintainace but they don't all have to be taken down for normal maintainance at once because there is so many of them if every publisher had their own servers it would be different especially for the smaller ones and I meant when psn was set up no1 saw it coming of course after Sony attacked hackers people speculated they would attack Sony and they really should have updated before but I honestly don't think it would have made a major difference and like I said Sony is handling every aspect of the problem
awesomeX10 said:
It would create hacking and cheaters that Sony wouldn't have any control over it and it would also make it impossible to switch between servers with a character so if the server is down you still can't play your character with your account and I was talking about the p2p games not dedicated server games, no1 is going to go out of their way for a waiting room and if the game makers did it it makes having one account for all games impossible and everything related to that, a open network just isn't a option on a closed system |
Uh I can use my Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II characters on official servers (which are off now) or on fan hosted servers (who have a more direct control than even big corporations do and instead of waiting hours for a ban there's often times someone always on to ban them immediately)
Seriously man give it up on that whole angle for your argument, it really doesn't work, yes individuals make servers to hack cause some people have fun with a modified game, others run a tighter ship than the official servers, and that's what it's all about, choice and freedom, cause nothing is stopping you from using official servers in this case.
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