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I don't think I saw one advert for this game, the first one was freaking everywhere, also this is sega we're talking about they did the same thing with Resonance of Fate...I mean who realeases a game near the same timeline of God of War III and Final Fantasy!?



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I agree with a few people that it's partially Sega AND retailers faults. Gamestops don't even put this on their new releases section, I had to really search for it. Only 1 our 3 in my area even had the game. Walmart never got it in and was one of the places I asked that never heard of it. Target heard of it but never got it in. The TRU I work at go it in but it was almost a week late and we never got anything to put up for it such as the box art for the ticket sleeve. All this with the delays and zero advertisement killed it. I do remember seeing a few TV commercials when the first came out mostly on comedy central during south park.

I have the game and have to say while it's not perfect it's still alot of fun. It easily beats the first and is just as fun as Goldeneye IMO. It's a shame some really good games are attached to otherwise tarnished brands. LIke said Red Steel and Conduit 1 left a bad taste in alot of people's mouths.  It's like how some games or genres almost never had a chance on the system. People played games like Red Steel and Call of Duty 3 with their frustrating controls and lack of features such as online and move on. Sure today we have Black Ops with online, patching, DLC ready (although still not getting any), voice chat/headset support but back then people wrote this stuff off for Wii and  now it's too late to recover all of the audience that has left. Activision should consider themselves lucky the COD series is consistantly 1 million and goldeneye past the million and still going.  They also dropped the heavily stripped down version of COD3 and it went on to pass 2 million now.

Also I believe sega was happy with the sales of the first game and also overkill/madworld. Sure they weren't blockbusters but Conduit sold 500k , House of the Dead Overkill is heading to 800K and even madworld just passed 600k.



primogen18 said:

I agree with a few people that it's partially Sega AND retailers faults. Gamestops don't even put this on their new releases section, I had to really search for it. Only 1 our 3 in my area even had the game. Walmart never got it in and was one of the places I asked that never heard of it. Target heard of it but never got it in. The TRU I work at go it in but it was almost a week late and we never got anything to put up for it such as the box art for the ticket sleeve. All this with the delays and zero advertisement killed it.

I have the game and have to say while it's not perfect it's still alot of fun. It easily beats the first and is just as fun as Goldeneye IMO. It's a shame some really good games are attached to otherwise tarnished brands. LIke said Red Steel and Conduit 1 left a bad taste in alot of people's mouths.  It's like how some games or genres almost never had a chance on the system. People played games like Red Steel and Call of Duty 3 with their frustrating controls and lack of features such as online and move on. Sure today we have Black Ops with online, patching, DLC ready (although still not getting any), voice chat/headset support but back then people wrote this stuff off for Wii and  now it's too late to recover all of the audience that has left. Activision should consider themselves lucky the COD series is consistantly 1 million and goldeneye past the million and still going.  They also dropped the heavily stripped down version of COD3 and it went on to pass 2 million now.

Also I believe sega was happy with the sales of the first game and also overkill/madworld. Sure they weren't blockbusters but Conduit sold 500k , House of the Dead Overkill is heading to 800K and even madworld just passed 600k.


Activision has also given us FPS on the system, which is more than other developers have done for the Wii.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/03/conduit-2-review/

Sweet zombie jesus.



LordTheNightKnight said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Cobra_ said:

 It's the same game, but the gameplay is very different.

A mediocre game is mediocre regardless of the controls you're using.


That wasn't the context of the comment you made before.

I said it didn't matter what controls he played with. Still the same game.

He's arguing how much it changes the experience. I don't think it really does. Not enough to make or break a game. Unless one of the schemes is poorly designed.



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Mr Puggsly said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Cobra_ said:

 It's the same game, but the gameplay is very different.

A mediocre game is mediocre regardless of the controls you're using.


That wasn't the context of the comment you made before.

I said it didn't matter what controls he played with. Still the same game.

He's arguing how much it changes the experience. I don't think it really does. Not enough to make or break a game. Unless one of the schemes is poorly designed.


Okay, that I give. The game still has to be good in the first place. Thus Modern Warfare is still a solid game on the Wii because it was a solid game originally. The controls just feel more comfortable for me.



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I liked the PSN dig in the review.



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Mr. Fister said:

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/03/conduit-2-review/

Sweet zombie jesus.

I will never understand this, is way better than the previous one. Now the bar is higher I recognized it, but if the game is better and the bar is higher you will expect almost the same scores not so bad ones. What is wrong with the reviews system?



I thought it was widely known that Sega can't market their products for s**t.

Now as someone who has played Conduit I would like to say that the game is not bad, I would say it falls somewhere between mediocre to good. But thats the problem, its just another run of the mill shooter which doesn't do anything radically new, and that really is kicking yourself in the groin because there are so many high profile shooters in this gen already: Halo, COD, Battlefield, KZ3, etc, etc and some of these also have very precise and better motion controls with the advent of move, so the Wii's only strong point is now no longer its strong point. One may question why Conduit is being compared with the above franchises, but if we look closely we will see that the people who buy conduit are the core gamers who also have one of the other HD consoles (casuals are not interested in FPS for the most part), so they have no reason to invest in a game that is inferior in every way in terms of graphics, controls (motion or not), story, online, etc.

Basically, in an oversaturated genre where there are a LOT of quality games available, you really can't compete with a mediocre, or even "good" title, you just have to be exceptional, which conduit 2 was not.



 

@primogen  according to a interview i read in GI Sega was not as happy as you think