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goforgold on 04 March 2011
chocoloco said:
Squilliam said:
chocoloco said:
Squilliam said:
binary solo said:

I'm surprised at the extent of the KZ3 boost for a relatively low week 1. Was there something else that bumped PS3 in addition to KZ3? The LG dispute hadn't hit before 26 Feb, so there's no panic buying factor in EMEAA, that should hit in this weeks stats.

PS3 Bulletstorm numbers amply demonstrate the idiocy of releasing a new FPS IP against KZ3. What was EA thinking? I get this horrible feeling that there was something intentional in sending Bulletstorm out to die on PS3. Has there been a multiplat shooter that's failed so badly on PS3 yet opened reasonably well on 360? I can't believe BS would have done this badly on PS3 if it was released with a bit of daylight between it and a PS3 exclusive shooter that appeals to the same sort of demographic.

Its probably due to the fact that there are a lot more multiconsole hardcore owners these days and anyone with both the Xbox 360 and PS3 would get the 360 version due to the Gears 3 beta. Bulletstorm is a hardcore game so that supports the idea that the hardcore audience would get the best platform. It wasn't Killzone 3 which ate Bulletstorms sales as much as it was Bulletstorn 360 version.

Maybe, but Dead Space 2 including Dead space extraction did not cause higher sales for the PS3.   I do not care for gears online , I only like the campaign. So when I pick up Bulletstorm I wiill still buy it for PS3.

Hardly anyone had Move at the time. That hardly makes it a compelling reason to get it on PS3 over Xbox 360.

Also just to show why your arguement is not full proof, I could also say more people bought KZ3 because it comes with early access to the socom 4 beta. I know gears is more popular than socom, but I still think you are exagerating the effect of the Gears beta. Attributing significant increases in  sales of a game to a beta does not seem to significant unless it is Halo 3: ODST because at least that game actually was a Halo game.

just wondering, how well did crackdown 2 do sales wise in comparison to crakdown 1?

seeing as it had access to the halo 3 beta

and @ squilliam your reasoning is flawed

the game did 360k combined while killzone 3 did 500k, so the ps3 version of bulletstorm hurting becasue people brought it on 360 for gears beta (and how this constitutes to the "better platform" is beyond me) is a moot point because KZ3 out sold the game combined on both platforms.

now looking at the ratio

300k (360) to 63k (ps3) that's what 4 to 1? 5 to 1? name me just ONE recent shooter that posted sucha discrepency in sales hell find me 1 this entire gen.

FACT: Killzone 3 utterly destroyed Bulletstorm sales for the ps3, game would have done ALOT better if it had released further away from killzone.



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SamuelRSmith on 04 March 2011
chocoloco said:
Squilliam said:
chocoloco said:
Squilliam said:
binary solo said:

I'm surprised at the extent of the KZ3 boost for a relatively low week 1. Was there something else that bumped PS3 in addition to KZ3? The LG dispute hadn't hit before 26 Feb, so there's no panic buying factor in EMEAA, that should hit in this weeks stats.

PS3 Bulletstorm numbers amply demonstrate the idiocy of releasing a new FPS IP against KZ3. What was EA thinking? I get this horrible feeling that there was something intentional in sending Bulletstorm out to die on PS3. Has there been a multiplat shooter that's failed so badly on PS3 yet opened reasonably well on 360? I can't believe BS would have done this badly on PS3 if it was released with a bit of daylight between it and a PS3 exclusive shooter that appeals to the same sort of demographic.

Its probably due to the fact that there are a lot more multiconsole hardcore owners these days and anyone with both the Xbox 360 and PS3 would get the 360 version due to the Gears 3 beta. Bulletstorm is a hardcore game so that supports the idea that the hardcore audience would get the best platform. It wasn't Killzone 3 which ate Bulletstorms sales as much as it was Bulletstorn 360 version.

Maybe, but Dead Space 2 including Dead space extraction did not cause higher sales for the PS3.   I do not care for gears online , I only like the campaign. So when I pick up Bulletstorm I wiill still buy it for PS3.

Hardly anyone had Move at the time. That hardly makes it a compelling reason to get it on PS3 over Xbox 360.

Also just to show why your arguement is not full proof, I could also say more people bought KZ3 because it comes with early access to the socom 4 beta. I know gears is more popular than socom, but I still think you are exagerating the effect of the Gears beta. Attributing significant increases in  sales of a game to a beta does not seem to significant unless it is Halo 3: ODST because at least that game actually was a Halo game.

I dunno, look at what the Halo 3 BETA did for Crackdown, the Gears fanbase is much larger than Socom's



greenmedic88 on 04 March 2011
Alby_da_Wolf said:

My biggest surprise is that 3DS sold more HW than SW. What did 30k Japanese buy it for? Watching its case? This must be the last nail on the coffin of Malstrom theories    Still strange, because it nails one of his that actually made sense...

I ordered two myself and I have no intention of buying any of the initial games. So maybe it's not that surprising; not that I necessarily represent the consumer norm.

I really don't need to play SSFIV in 3D on a handheld (already bought SFIV twice and SSFIV so I'm done) and that's honestly the only 3DS launch game I'd even consider paying $40 for.

But when RE Mercenaries comes out, I won't have to Ebay one at inflated prices or fruitlessly chase down incoming shipments as though I have nothing better to do.

So yes, until then I'll be either looking at the boxes or looking at the UI menu screens in 3D. Oh, maybe taking low res 3D photos of various knick knacks for shits n' giggles.



Beuli2 on 04 March 2011
RCTjunkie said:

My biggest surprise is that almost 20,000 Japanese people still bought a DS.......

DS

 458,825 (-) 458,825
PS2 102,541 (-18%) 17,138,670
GBA 34,380 (-14%) 14,549,189


Week Ending 05th Dec 2004



Above: still the best game of the year.

Alby_da_Wolf on 04 March 2011
greenmedic88 said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:

My biggest surprise is that 3DS sold more HW than SW. What did 30k Japanese buy it for? Watching its case? This must be the last nail on the coffin of Malstrom theories    Still strange, because it nails one of his that actually made sense...

I ordered two myself and I have no intention of buying any of the initial games. So maybe it's not that surprising; not that I necessarily represent the consumer norm.

I really don't need to play SSFIV in 3D on a handheld (already bought SFIV twice and SSFIV so I'm done) and that's honestly the only 3DS launch game I'd even consider paying $40 for.

But when RE Mercenaries comes out, I won't have to Ebay one at inflated prices or fruitlessly chase down incoming shipments as though I have nothing better to do.

So yes, until then I'll be either looking at the boxes or looking at the UI menu screens in 3D. Oh, maybe taking low res 3D photos of various knick knacks for shits n' giggles.

ZOMFG! HW hardcore!   



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4k1x3r on 04 March 2011
pezus said:
trestres said:

YoY Comparisons

360 up 35k
PS3 down 16k
Wii down 99k

DS down 127k
PSP down 31k

PS2 down 23k

Wii got 99 problems and a price drop is one.

Hahaha nice! =D



4k1x3r on 04 March 2011
goforgold said:
chocoloco said:
Squilliam said:
chocoloco said:
Squilliam said:
binary solo said:

I'm surprised at the extent of the KZ3 boost for a relatively low week 1. Was there something else that bumped PS3 in addition to KZ3? The LG dispute hadn't hit before 26 Feb, so there's no panic buying factor in EMEAA, that should hit in this weeks stats.

PS3 Bulletstorm numbers amply demonstrate the idiocy of releasing a new FPS IP against KZ3. What was EA thinking? I get this horrible feeling that there was something intentional in sending Bulletstorm out to die on PS3. Has there been a multiplat shooter that's failed so badly on PS3 yet opened reasonably well on 360? I can't believe BS would have done this badly on PS3 if it was released with a bit of daylight between it and a PS3 exclusive shooter that appeals to the same sort of demographic.

Its probably due to the fact that there are a lot more multiconsole hardcore owners these days and anyone with both the Xbox 360 and PS3 would get the 360 version due to the Gears 3 beta. Bulletstorm is a hardcore game so that supports the idea that the hardcore audience would get the best platform. It wasn't Killzone 3 which ate Bulletstorms sales as much as it was Bulletstorn 360 version.

Maybe, but Dead Space 2 including Dead space extraction did not cause higher sales for the PS3.   I do not care for gears online , I only like the campaign. So when I pick up Bulletstorm I wiill still buy it for PS3.

Hardly anyone had Move at the time. That hardly makes it a compelling reason to get it on PS3 over Xbox 360.

Also just to show why your arguement is not full proof, I could also say more people bought KZ3 because it comes with early access to the socom 4 beta. I know gears is more popular than socom, but I still think you are exagerating the effect of the Gears beta. Attributing significant increases in  sales of a game to a beta does not seem to significant unless it is Halo 3: ODST because at least that game actually was a Halo game.

just wondering, how well did crackdown 2 do sales wise in comparison to crakdown 1?

seeing as it had access to the halo 3 beta

and @ squilliam your reasoning is flawed

the game did 360k combined while killzone 3 did 500k, so the ps3 version of bulletstorm hurting becasue people brought it on 360 for gears beta (and how this constitutes to the "better platform" is beyond me) is a moot point because KZ3 out sold the game combined on both platforms.

now looking at the ratio

300k (360) to 63k (ps3) that's what 4 to 1? 5 to 1? name me just ONE recent shooter that posted sucha discrepency in sales hell find me 1 this entire gen.

FACT: Killzone 3 utterly destroyed Bulletstorm sales for the ps3, game would have done ALOT better if it had released further away from killzone.

They wanted to be cocky and release the game to "fuck" with KZ3 as Cliffy.B said, and now Killzone 3 is fucking with their revenue. Nothing new.



bannedagain on 04 March 2011
patapon said:

Now Killzone is fucking with cliffy b



Played it a little and was alright but was not as impressed as I thought I should be.



tendoronie67 on 04 March 2011

Grrr i know it was unlikely but i  really wanteed KZ3 to sell like 800 thousand 

its now my favourite FPS 



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SOLIDSNAKE08 on 04 March 2011
pezus said:
biggamejames79 said:
cmeese47 said:

Suck it 360 148k in America was not enough, which means Killzone 3 had a major impact. 


Hahaha yeah you got the 360 on that one!  Cause this week was for the Video Games Championship of The World and ps3 came out on top!  With an amazing never seen before opening week "major impact" by Killzone 3 of 500,000 sales (holy geez!) the ps3 MIGHT get it's FIRST exclusive that sells 6 million!  But probably not.

GT5??

he forgot that one. actually come to think of it, GT5 sold faster than any every 360 exclusive apart from halo. makes his post look stupid now.

anyway looks like bulletstorm was hampered by killzone 3. killzone 3 beat it easily on both platforms. if bulletstorm release later, it would have got more sales.