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Alby_da_Wolf on 17 February 2011

So... Pachter was right again! And as usual, men of little faith didn't believe him! Vox clamantis in deserto!   

BTW, what if MS moneyhats Nintendo enough to get New Super Mario Kinect?   



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Michael-5 on 17 February 2011
axumblade said:
Michael-5 said:
axumblade said:
Michael-5 said:

Yes, Bulletstorm is a good example of a game that would sell better on the 360 then PS3. 360 has a larger US audience, which is more shooter oriented. Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 should help PS3 numbers though to be fair.

The only problem with the Bulletstorm boost is that Killzone 3 is coming out that week as well bundled. That should even/make PS3 boost a bit higher.

Yea, but isn't Marvel Vs. Capcom coming out at a similar time? I agree, the week of Killzone 3, PS3 sales should bump above 360, but sales will still be close, and the gap between the two consoles should remain steady.

My original point was that this is true because Kinect has raised 360's popularity in general, and most of the better games are HD multiplatformers (Yes Killzone, and LBP score over 9/10, but so did Dead Space, Marvel Vs. Capcom 3, and it's likely that Bulletstorm Dragon Age 2, and Test Drive get high scores as well).

MvC comes out a week earlier than Bulletstorm and Killzone 3. My point was moreso that the gap that should be significant for Bulletstorm will be slightly skewed that week thanks to Killzone 3.

And I agree, the HD multiplatforms are killing everything right now. But you also have to keep in mind, the Wii can only sell so many systems before sales start to drop and it's software is kind of in a dry spell. Also, most devs are now focusing on NGP and 3DS so the DS and PSP are going to steadily drop as people anticipate the next gen handhelds.

Wii also tends to sell better in the holidays as its games appeal more to casual gamers. Still HD Consoles FTW.



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Michael-5 on 17 February 2011
Slimebeast said:
NYANKS said:
Slimebeast said:

Winner again. I think this is the year of the X360.

I think that depends on if you are a sales analyst or a gamer.  ;)

Hahaha.

I disagree, my 3 favorite franchises this gen are seeing a 360 interation this fall. Gears, Mass Effect and Forza. Also Assassin's Creed 3 is said to be a 2011 title. However PS3 has some awesome shit too, but I think this this year is the year of the HD Console, for the analyst and gamer.



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Michael-5 on 17 February 2011
Gilgamesh said:
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Pavolink said:

*See Wii #s*

Oh boy...

Nah, Wii will see a price cut, and get crazy sales this fall with Zelda as well, and maybe a limited edition green Wii.

However until E3, I think the HD consoles will continually outsell the Wii, PS3 will need a few weeks to surpass Wii in Americas, but it wll happen. 360 should also be above Wii soon in EMEAA.


What happens if the PS3 and X360 gets a price cut aswell? (which is very likely to happen this year).

I think a Wii pricecut will be more beneficial to the Wii then an HD price cut to the HD systems.



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Michael-5 on 17 February 2011
darthdevidem01 said:
Slimebeast said:
darthdevidem01 said:
TT Makaveli said:

man Xbox is eating their competitors...sad thing for Wii...for PS3 isnt that bad because it rarely sold better than the Xbox in america...but still my opinion is that Sony should do something over there...i think Sony is a little bit too optimistic with KZ3...maybe Sony think this will have a little impact and yes it will maybe have...but only for one week and Xbox is outselling PS 2:1...and Killzone will never push like 60-70k more consoles over there ^^

Price price price

$299 is where PS3 is at, thats where PS2 launched. Lets be happy to see PS3 doing this well worldwide despite that.

Wait till $199...

lol... nice spin.

The X360 is $299 and is selling like hotcakes despite being one year older, less powerful, no bluray, no free online. (the Arcade is for casuals, minor sales)

Both will drop to $249 this year and the sales ratio will be maintained.

Slimebeast lets not pretend there isn't a $199 Xbox 360 SKU and that SKU doesn't sell well.

Your basically comparing the costliest Xbox 360 SKU with the cheapest PS3 one. Don't forget the costliest PS3 SKU is still $349.

@BenVTtrigger

Yeah 360 hasn't had a price cut in 2 years either. But as PS3 costs more in general a price cut should have a greater effect as your going from a comparably higher price to a lower price.


Actually the costliest 360 is the $400 250GIG Kinect 360, and Arcade model 360's don't sell that well. Patcher has stated in the past they only account for 10% of sales, but with a $300 Kinect arcade bundle that might change. Still $50 off the Arcade, and a equivalently priced large Hard Drive model, thats only going to help maintain the current sales ratio.



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Demonslayersoultaker on 17 February 2011
Alby_da_Wolf said:

So... Pachter was right again! And as usual, men of little faith didn't believe him! Vox clamantis in deserto!   

BTW, what if MS moneyhats Nintendo enough to get New Super Mario Kinect?   

Pachter predicted a wii HD not that wii would plummet in sales, his job is to predict not to tell people what they should've done 



Gilgamesh on 17 February 2011
Michael-5 said:
Gilgamesh said:
Michael-5 said:
Pavolink said:

*See Wii #s*

Oh boy...

Nah, Wii will see a price cut, and get crazy sales this fall with Zelda as well, and maybe a limited edition green Wii.

However until E3, I think the HD consoles will continually outsell the Wii, PS3 will need a few weeks to surpass Wii in Americas, but it wll happen. 360 should also be above Wii soon in EMEAA.


What happens if the PS3 and X360 gets a price cut aswell? (which is very likely to happen this year).

I think a Wii pricecut will be more beneficial to the Wii then an HD price cut to the HD systems.

But the last Wii price cut didn't do a whole lot for it and it even had a lot of big games during the holidays and yet it was still down YOY. Especially right now when the HD consoles are doing so well a pice cut would really push it over the Wii. I mean the Wii is already cheap  compared to the HD consoles, which would you think people are going to be more exicted for  to be cheaper the Wii ($200), PS3 ($300 - $400) or X360 ($200 - $300)?



Pavolink on 17 February 2011
Gilgamesh said:

But the last Wii price cut didn't do a whole lot for it and it even had a lot of big games during the holidays and yet it was still down YOY. Especially right now when the HD consoles are doing so well a pice cut would really push it over the Wii. I mean the Wii is already cheap  compared to the HD consoles, which would you think people are going to be more exicted for  to be cheaper the Wii ($200), PS3 ($300 - $400) or X360 ($200 - $300)?


You mean during the year (2010) and not holidays (2009) right? Because I don't think that the excellent sales were just for games.



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Xen on 17 February 2011
Alby_da_Wolf said:

So... Pachter was right again! And as usual, men of little faith didn't believe him! Vox clamantis in deserto! 

BTW, what if MS moneyhats Nintendo enough to get New Super Mario Kinect? 

Latin on VGC and nobody says "ugh"?

Are we some kinda ultimate gaming forum?



bannedagain on 17 February 2011
pezus said:

Why does 360 keep increasing randomly in Americas?



There was a shortage and now they are catching up on orders.