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lolage on 07 February 2011

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



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Baalzamon on 07 February 2011
ioi said:
spurgeonryan said:

Well it worked for alot of other sites, so im sure this is not going to stop. Why do we have to be in some kind of business to get pro? I just happen to have stock in EA or I would have nothing to help me sign up. I left showbizdata.com and billboard.com when they changed there content to pay, and hopefully they will not take too much away from here or the same thing will happen with alot of people. I will pay if the price is just a few bucks a month though. Maybe they should just get some better ads if they want more money? I mean most of these ads on here are the internets version of infomercials. Look at the IGN site! They always have top names on there advertisments. I just dont know.


You don't have to be in some kind of business but it is likely that only businesses (in other words people who want the data for financial gain) will be able to afford the subscriptions. We're talking the order of thousands of dollars per year not tens or hundreds.

On the subject of ads - we have had a great partner for the last 12 months with some hugely successful campaigns - on par with what you would expect at sites IGN. This will only continue but doesn't escape the fact that the data collection side of the business isn't viable on ad revenues alone.

Yea, you really have had some high profile ads.  I've even started to notice some Discover Card ads and whatnot. 

One thing I have a question about, however, is the advertisements in the forums.  It has gotten to the point where I actually have to mute my computer when browsing forums because I've had as many as 4 advertisements begin automatically playing on a single page.  While I know that you need money from advertisements, with potentially a lot more money coming in, would it be possible to limit the auto play ads to 1 per page with the remaining ads as display ads?  It's just one of those small things that I think would make the experience better as I kind of like listening to music when browsing the internet, but have gotten to where I can no longer do that on the forums here.

Edit: Also, what browser is that you are using?



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ethomaz on 07 February 2011
Baalzamon said:

Edit: Also, what browser is that you are using?

The best one: Opera ;).



Conegamer on 07 February 2011

That sounds screwed up. What's wrong with this site ATM?



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

Conegamer on 07 February 2011
ioi said:
spurgeonryan said:

Well it worked for alot of other sites, so im sure this is not going to stop. Why do we have to be in some kind of business to get pro? I just happen to have stock in EA or I would have nothing to help me sign up. I left showbizdata.com and billboard.com when they changed there content to pay, and hopefully they will not take too much away from here or the same thing will happen with alot of people. I will pay if the price is just a few bucks a month though. Maybe they should just get some better ads if they want more money? I mean most of these ads on here are the internets version of infomercials. Look at the IGN site! They always have top names on there advertisments. I just dont know.


You don't have to be in some kind of business but it is likely that only businesses (in other words people who want the data for financial gain) will be able to afford the subscriptions. We're talking the order of thousands of dollars per year not tens or hundreds.

On the subject of ads - we have had a great partner for the last 12 months with some hugely successful campaigns - on par with what you would expect at sites IGN. This will only continue but doesn't escape the fact that the data collection side of the business isn't viable on ad revenues alone.

Trust me, I get that. But it's been fine for the past few years, why change it now?

(I'm also intrigued by all the icons on the top left of the page. Pretty)



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

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Rainbird on 07 February 2011
Conegamer said:

That sounds screwed up. What's wrong with this site ATM?

It's not making enough money to cover its expenses.



Kantor on 07 February 2011
ioi said:

Most of this has been discussed previously but a few general points:

*snip*

You have to look at it from the other side - VGChartz has for a long time provided far more data than any other source for free and we continue to do that today. It is hard to find a top ten with numbers nevermind a weekly top 40 with full data on game pages for each title. I'd love to be able to make the site totally free for everyone and fully accessible but then I'd also like to be able to walk into a shop, pick up a nice new HD TV and walk out without having to pay for it. People shouldn't expect to get something for nothing - even on the internet.

So the plan is the same as the first rethinking of the idea. One question, though.

You said earlier (as part of the original plan) that site staff would get free access to premium data.

    http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3066752

Do we still get that?



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ssj12 on 07 February 2011
Kantor said:
ioi said:

Most of this has been discussed previously but a few general points:

*snip*

You have to look at it from the other side - VGChartz has for a long time provided far more data than any other source for free and we continue to do that today. It is hard to find a top ten with numbers nevermind a weekly top 40 with full data on game pages for each title. I'd love to be able to make the site totally free for everyone and fully accessible but then I'd also like to be able to walk into a shop, pick up a nice new HD TV and walk out without having to pay for it. People shouldn't expect to get something for nothing - even on the internet.

So the plan is the same as the first rethinking of the idea. One question, though.

You said earlier (as part of the original plan) that site staff would get free access to premium data.

    http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3066752

Do we still get that?

Seems someone other than me is interested in the data.



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Baalzamon on 07 February 2011
ssj12 said:
Kantor said:
ioi said:

Most of this has been discussed previously but a few general points:

*snip*

You have to look at it from the other side - VGChartz has for a long time provided far more data than any other source for free and we continue to do that today. It is hard to find a top ten with numbers nevermind a weekly top 40 with full data on game pages for each title. I'd love to be able to make the site totally free for everyone and fully accessible but then I'd also like to be able to walk into a shop, pick up a nice new HD TV and walk out without having to pay for it. People shouldn't expect to get something for nothing - even on the internet.

So the plan is the same as the first rethinking of the idea. One question, though.

You said earlier (as part of the original plan) that site staff would get free access to premium data.

    http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3066752

Do we still get that?

Seems someone other than me is interested in the data.

Yea, but like ioi said, the data will still be there for all of us, it may just be a little bit harder in certain instances.  We should all be happy we are still getting the massive amount of free data that we are getting...where else does a website provide all of this data for free?



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outlawauron on 07 February 2011
ioi said:
Carl2291 said:

Question -

Will there be a smaller subscription fee for users like me who want to view the Top 200 and Platform/Publisher selections again... Along with maybe some sales comparison tools?

You could make some good money from that, and it would make some forum users (Like me) happier with what's happening.

Potentially, I'm not sure how many would go for it though. Paying to do view sales data purely for enjoyment does seem a bit too much for most people.

That's the reason nearly all of the older users joined the site though. :-/



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