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ioi said:
Jaffar Sholva said:


Same question. I have an online magazine / blog and I started to do a market analysis every week with the vgchartz numbers. In the German-speaking region that's something unique so far, so I would really love to do it furthermore. But there is no possibility for me to suscribe to vgchartz pro. I'm not an investor nor a publisher or marketer...


There is still more than enough data readily available for things like that? How far have you been going beyond the top sellers, breakdown per platform, hardware and some key title performance? You can still get all of that now.


I concentrate on niche titles. So for example: How do I get the numbers of the actual week of Atelier Rorona? Wait! I got it... I have to compare the actual numbers with the numbers on the last point of the graph on gamrreview, right? It would be much easier to sort the data according to publishers - NIS America on PS3 for the actual week (I would also love if I can sort it according to developers). What if a game releases and it will not manage to get in the top 40? It would be far more complex to recognise these titles and get the data.

But anyways, I slowly understand the mechanics of vgchartz. It's just more complex than before now.



12.08.2010, prediction:

GT5 will sell ~10 million life time (after 20 weeks around 6 million, rest with legs).

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Finnbar said:

This sucks... the whole reason I found this site and continue to come back is because of its sales. This is a site that used to pride itself on offering free video game sales to the masses, now its going to turn around and do the exact same thing it fought against all these years.... 

On a side note is it really ethical to charge people for sales data that was ammassed (even if only partailly) from sites that charge you to see sales data they collected? 

Is it ethical to buy bananas from a wholesaler and then sell them yourselves for a profit?



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I was wondering when the Pro version would happen.   Every website that i frequent that provides numbers on any topic seems to do the same thing.  Once they reach a certain level/status as a provider of data and it turns into real jobs for people, they have to increase their revenues to continue.  Oh well, for most users, the basic info will be enough, but having access to look up details will be missed by some.



I have one idea.

I should continue looking for weekly chartz until GT5 out of TOP 40... after that I should only attend the forum.

For now I'm hoping GT5 maintain it fantastic sales.



Well it worked for alot of other sites, so im sure this is not going to stop. Why do we have to be in some kind of business to get pro? I just happen to have stock in EA or I would have nothing to help me sign up. I left showbizdata.com and billboard.com when they changed there content to pay, and hopefully they will not take too much away from here or the same thing will happen with alot of people. I will pay if the price is just a few bucks a month though. Maybe they should just get some better ads if they want more money? I mean most of these ads on here are the internets version of infomercials. Look at the IGN site! They always have top names on there advertisments. I just dont know.



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ioi said:
  • Of those who view data - 95% are doing so casually (top 10 games, check a few game totals), 4% like to view the data in more depth and examine trends and 1% are using it for financial gain. The 1%, although a small number in absolute terms, is still significant and are obviously willing to pay a lot for a professional service to aid their business activity.

With those numbers, I can easily understand the decision behind the change, but I think that removing the ease of getting the data (certain parts of it at least) is the wrong way to go. I know you have to par it back, or otherwise you don't get the desired results, but having access to more data (even in a convoluted way) would be nice.

Like if I wish to filter the top 40 by platform, I get a top 30 for the platform, where the first five games have full data (like in the normal top 40), and the rest are just a list of games (randomized maybe even?) with no data available. This way you can still check if certain games are within some sales range quite quickly, but without scouring the database for new releases or old games that may or may not be of interest.

I don't if that would be the right way to do it, my point is merely that I think the data has been dialled back a tad too much. But other than that, I have full understanding of the need to earn money, and can't really disagree with what has been done.



spurgeonryan said:

Well it worked for alot of other sites, so im sure this is not going to stop. Why do we have to be in some kind of business to get pro? I just happen to have stock in EA or I would have nothing to help me sign up. I left showbizdata.com and billboard.com when they changed there content to pay, and hopefully they will not take too much away from here or the same thing will happen with alot of people. I will pay if the price is just a few bucks a month though. Maybe they should just get some better ads if they want more money? I mean most of these ads on here are the internets version of infomercials. Look at the IGN site! They always have top names on there advertisments. I just dont know.


You don't have to be in some kind of business but it is likely that only businesses (in other words people who want the data for financial gain) will be able to afford the subscriptions. We're talking the order of thousands of dollars per year not tens or hundreds.

On the subject of ads - we have had a great partner for the last 12 months with some hugely successful campaigns - on par with what you would expect at sites IGN. This will only continue but doesn't escape the fact that the data collection side of the business isn't viable on ad revenues alone.



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ioi said:
spurgeonryan said:

Well it worked for alot of other sites, so im sure this is not going to stop. Why do we have to be in some kind of business to get pro? I just happen to have stock in EA or I would have nothing to help me sign up. I left showbizdata.com and billboard.com when they changed there content to pay, and hopefully they will not take too much away from here or the same thing will happen with alot of people. I will pay if the price is just a few bucks a month though. Maybe they should just get some better ads if they want more money? I mean most of these ads on here are the internets version of infomercials. Look at the IGN site! They always have top names on there advertisments. I just dont know.


You don't have to be in some kind of business but it is likely that only businesses (in other words people who want the data for financial gain) will be able to afford the subscriptions. We're talking the order of thousands of dollars per year not tens or hundreds.

On the subject of ads - we have had a great partner for the last 12 months with some hugely successful campaigns - on par with what you would expect at sites IGN. This will only continue but doesn't escape the fact that the data collection side of the business isn't viable on ad revenues alone.

Yea, you really have had some high profile ads.  I've even started to notice some Discover Card ads and whatnot. 

One thing I have a question about, however, is the advertisements in the forums.  It has gotten to the point where I actually have to mute my computer when browsing forums because I've had as many as 4 advertisements begin automatically playing on a single page.  While I know that you need money from advertisements, with potentially a lot more money coming in, would it be possible to limit the auto play ads to 1 per page with the remaining ads as display ads?  It's just one of those small things that I think would make the experience better as I kind of like listening to music when browsing the internet, but have gotten to where I can no longer do that on the forums here.

Edit: Also, what browser is that you are using?



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Baalzamon said:

Edit: Also, what browser is that you are using?

The best one: Opera ;).