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jneul said:

maybe i should see a psychiatrist lol, it's something i am sure i will not understand by myself


believe me, these guys are useless,they only make things worse to you and then ask for money and believe me, the only way you will undestand yourself is by yourself, don't listen to anyone's else's stupid "Advices"

(including me)



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jneul said:
Squilliam said:

The skills aren't missing. They are still there within you but it is your mental state which prevents you from being able to use them. I used to think that I had a sucky sense of direction and that I couldn't find my way out of a wet paper bag. Nowadays after I dealt with a few things my friends say I have an amazing sense of direction even in places and cities I have never been before whereas before I would get lost driving across a 140,000 size city I had lived in almost all my life.




thanks i think a part of me knows that is true, maybe why that's the reason i am unhappy, oh well like ppl say life is full of ups and downs lol

now to try and sort it all out, where to start does anyone know anyway i can do a quick refesh on my skills so i atleast feel ready to go, i was up to Hnd level so bare this in mind thankyou

One of the most important things you need to do first up is work out who you actually are and what you're capable of etc. If you can still remember who you were like and what you could do back when your mind was still well you can use that to help you get better and to help you identify what areas you might need help with. What you can do with this is work out the parts of your mind where you have 'road-blocks' and rediscover what you can still do now.

One good way I learnt was to go sideways around problems if I cannot tackle them head on for whatever reason. Im not sure what languages you know but my suggestion is to try programming in a different language than you're used to. That way you won't be nearly as critical of yourself if you make errors whilst at the same time it'll help bring back your core programming skills. So for instance you could learn XNA, Java, Visual Basic etc anything which you're NOT familiar with or at the very least far less familiar with.

Another thing I suggest is that you learn to differentiate 'yourself' from whatever your illness is telling you. That way your mind might be telling you that you're Spanish (random I know) but you realise that the words being said aren't you which makes it a lot easier to ignore and more on with your life.

P.S. Whats HND level? *not a programmer though many respects for those who are*



Tease.

Maybe you should take a holiday to a resort to relax and think things over. You never know where you get inspiration from.



    
jneul said:
adsl said:

Do you have a best friend?

As Hapimeses told you now is the time to let your friends help you. Even your family can help you as well. What you can't do is to stay alone without no one to talk.

By the way, I stopped to work as a programmer as well and this year I started a PhD. So I can continue programming (what I love) without no one to treat me like ****



yeah i have friends an i have had this conversation out before i though it would be better to go for something simple after what happened, because i literraly lost who i was after i left my programming job (it sounds sad i know), i lost all my confidence and passion and basically even my love for programming has dwindled into nothingness, i really don't even understand it.

so far i have tried a training course which renewed my confidence in myself as a person, but alot of the things i used to be able to do are simply missing now, i just don't know where to start, and i dare not do my Bsc in computing, because honestly i feel like my skills are not good enough anymore

maybe i should see a psychiatrist lol, it's something i am sure i will not understand by myself


I see... So what are the things you really like to do? And what are the thinks you are good at?

I think you can find something simple and easy to do in order to improve your self-confidence.

For example, when I was a teenage a was feeling useless as well, so I decided to start a volunteer work in the weekends as a teacher of basic informatics (Windows, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Internet...). I found a public school near to my home and helped some people to learn how to use a computer there. It improved my self-confidence a lot and after the classes I was feeling very useful.



I think I gotta ask this question; do you still wanna code?  And you're probably not in the right state of mind to even answer that question right now but...  I know what you're feeling right now Jnuel, I'm a coder myself and I'm lucky enough to be in a good company doing very interesting and new stuff (iphone, android, blackberry development), but every now and then I think about the future and I'm personally not sure if this job will last 10 years down the line.  And what will I do 10 years?  So every now and then I get anxiety attacks too.  As far as jobs go why don't you take another vertical?  Try a teaching job.  High school, college, maybe even university (Not sure how long you've been coding to teach at college or university).  You'll still be coding, but you'll be doing it in a teaching environment with a consistent job.  Plus you get different interactions.  Though on the other hand do you wanna code?  Or maybe go on a completely different route, my sister was in forestry, lost her job, couldn't find a job in her field, now she's learning how to be a massage therapist.  Though I don't know your situation and if you can even go back to school, but stay strong Jnuel.



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Went through a stint of depression myself not too long ago, kept me from wanting to do anything, nearly destroyed my academic career. There are a few things i recommend trying.

1. Find someone to talk to. Psychologists (not psychiatrists) tend to be very good for this sort of thing and can help you work out the feelings that you're dealing with, but if you have a very smart and very understanding friend then they will do just as easily.

2. Exercise. This sounds like a joke, but it's true: 30 minutes of hard cardio every day will make you feel like a new person. Run, bike, whatever it takes - do it for half an hour, as hard as you can. Do this every day.

3. Vitamin D. I'm not a doctor so this isn't medical advice, but I found out that my (and a lot of people's) Vitamin D levels get low when I'm in a climate with low sunshine, which is nearly year-round in Ontario and may be year-round in the UK. I take 10k IU of Vitamin D per day, but 5k IU is all that most people need to stave off the winter blues.

Chances are that a couple of very simple changes to your daily regime will make you feel a lot better. If I can only recommend one, it is the exercise. My wife got me started on weightlifting a year ago and it's been one of the best ways to get my head clear.



If I were you i'd go see a councellor. Helped me with my shit. They just talk to you ask pertinent questions and help you try to anwser those questions by yourself, until you have an understanding of yourself (which is very difficult to do by yourself).

Anyway maybe I was really lucky with my counsellor. Someone decent, who genuinely wanted to help.

That or just get a friend to have a good long chat.



Squilliam said:

She learned she was a gay male trapped in a womans body.


Oh shit. Is that you, my other half?

I am a lesbian trapped inside a man's body!

 

On topic.

It sounds like you're stuck in some kind of depression and don't know what or why or that the reasons don't even matter anymore.

I was stuck for a few years. And then I decided, "%^&$ it. Just ignore it and go on with life."



If this feeling is new you might have a chemical imbalance.  When I was about 35 yrs old my thinking capabilities went to hell. I couldn't concentrate and my ability to receive knowledge and build on it was gone. 

I went to my family practitioner and he put me on Anti-depress meds.

It was caused by stress due to family illness's working long hours.  I would talk to a close friend and your doctor honey



Khuutra said:

Went through a stint of depression myself not too long ago, kept me from wanting to do anything, nearly destroyed my academic career. There are a few things i recommend trying.

1. Find someone to talk to. Psychologists (not psychiatrists) tend to be very good for this sort of thing and can help you work out the feelings that you're dealing with, but if you have a very smart and very understanding friend then they will do just as easily.

2. Exercise. This sounds like a joke, but it's true: 30 minutes of hard cardio every day will make you feel like a new person. Run, bike, whatever it takes - do it for half an hour, as hard as you can. Do this every day.

3. Vitamin D. I'm not a doctor so this isn't medical advice, but I found out that my (and a lot of people's) Vitamin D levels get low when I'm in a climate with low sunshine, which is nearly year-round in Ontario and may be year-round in the UK. I take 10k IU of Vitamin D per day, but 5k IU is all that most people need to stave off the winter blues.

Chances are that a couple of very simple changes to your daily regime will make you feel a lot better. If I can only recommend one, it is the exercise. My wife got me started on weightlifting a year ago and it's been one of the best ways to get my head clear.

good Ideas especially the exercise