I wouldn't say "mods" as a reason. Stop with the strawman.

The way I see it, everyone owns a PC or laptop anyway. Next year, all PCs sold will feature graphics good enough to run games, whether they bought the PC for games or not. So if you wanted to play PC games (for that is what OnLive does), you can choose OnLive or use the hardware you already own, no upgrade required. I think I know which one is easier and cheaper.

If you didn't want to play PC games, then OnLive won't persuade you. It is a medium, not content itself. OnLive's market would come from people who want to play PC games but don't own a PC powerful enough to do it. Next year that market starts to disappear.

And, sure, some PC games are on consoles too, and consoles have their own games. That is irrelevant to OnLive though, because there isn't a single potential customer of OnLive that doesn't yet own a PC. If there is a shift towards console gaming it will hurt OnLive. If nothing happens then OnLive will lose anyway as more PCs become game-capable. I can't see any way that OnLIve's market will grow over the next two years.

Mods, community, open platform, better online. Many people get into mods actually, it's basically "free DLC" where in most cases they can completely change the game. What console players can pay up to $15 for, PC players get for free Consoles are just abrely simpler. You still have software installs and updates and patches and broken games, and worse hardware failure rate than PCs. Once they add a file system for some retarded reason, consoles will be a trully gimped and worthless PCs.

The argument here was that PCs, as a platform, are fine as is for the next decade, so people won't want to update to get latest graphics, because they won't need to.  In short, graphics will be fixed where they are.  I can see this argument being valid, BUT... if that is the case, then one can argue that consoles would be just as good, and more convenient.

I did bring up mods as one of the strengths of PC gaming, but I am of the belief that most people don't bother to go and hunt them down.  Most people are lazy with their entertainment, and want what is preferred and will usually pay for it.  I speak here of the masses, who are what are needed to buy in large enough numbers to support high production costs for creating content that is sufficiently high quality.  For core gamers, the mods are awesome, and they get into them.  For the average person, it isn't so.  They just don't go and hunt them down.

And what about newer games that the computer can't handle? You could go out and buy or build a new computer. But OnLive could be an option and instant gratification.

Lets not forget OnLive will have that micro console thing. I imagine that's going to be low cost device. I hope they can keep it around a $100 at most.

See, maybe this is a foreign concept to you, but if a current PC can't handle a game on lowered settings, then it probably would be impossible to stream over the internet yet. Even at medium settings games on the PC look better than on the HD consoles, hell some even on low, so it's not like you would be missing out by not maxing out the game.

uh I hope you guys don't think PC is for gaming only, that's only 1 part of what I do with it, and I always need something that has decent power to do my daily tasks, a lot of people don't even use the eyefinity to run games at those resolutions, they literally work with like 3-6 monitors because they can work faster that way or edit high res media or can run multiple virtual machines without anything ever being out of sight, and it's the best solution at such a price.

This.  Having multiple monitors is fantastic for multitasking.  I find myself even running out of space at times with the three that I have...

It sure seems like VGChartz is riddled with obnoxious people recently. God forbid I see the advantages of OnLive and the appeal it may have. Its almost like you are personally threatened by this service.

The foreign concept to you seems to be not everyone has a powerful graphics card even though they have a fast processor. Even with lowered settings you can have a choppy frame rate and compatibility issues due to poor graphics hardware.

There are a lot of budget computers on the market today can easily handle OnLIve with no need for additional hardware upgrades. That's the advantage to the service. And if you're a casual PC user, the OnLive service can be much less of a pain in the ass.

If they are casual with PC, then I think going console is the better way for now, I'm not saying the service won't blossom in the future, I'm just saying with the way some countries are, it's not easy for it to take off.

Or multicore programming. Most of the world uses a PC to do work or fun anywho too. The PC ACTUALLY does everything.