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richardhutnik on 06 July 2010
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vlad321 said:
richardhutnik said:
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OnLive just may be ahead of its time. Over time the required ISP speed will be cheaper and more people will own compuers that can handle the requirements of OnLive. Basically, no matter how advanced games get you'll be able to play them on a relatively low end computer. You won't have to get a new machine or change parts just to get more frames in a new game.

Next year, even netbooks will be able to handle these graphics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJD9jWDFcOU

That's Ontario, AMD's 2011 netbook processor with a GPU die. Together with Llano and Sandy Bridge, netbooks, low-end Dell/HP desktops and cheap laptops will all be able to handle decent PC gaming graphics at 720p or above. No need for OnLive. (Ignore the "Llano" name; the demo shown is definitely Ontario)

If you are arguing this about PCs, then can I ask this?  Why does one need a PC for gaming there isn't going to be a need for much more horsepower to render graphics and they won't update?  A console is cheaper than a PC for gaming, and doesn't have the technical issues involved?  So, why even bother getting a PC to do gaming and just stick with consoles?  Oh, you can say "Mods".  Well how many people actually get into mods?

Mods, community, open platform, better online. Many people get into mods actually, it's basically "free DLC" where in most cases they can completely change the game. What console players can pay up to $15 for, PC players get for free Consoles are just abrely simpler. You still have software installs and updates and patches and broken games, and worse hardware failure rate than PCs. Once they add a file system for some retarded reason, consoles will be a trully gimped and worthless PCs.

The argument here was that PCs, as a platform, are fine as is for the next decade, so people won't want to update to get latest graphics, because they won't need to.  In short, graphics will be fixed where they are.  I can see this argument being valid, BUT... if that is the case, then one can argue that consoles would be just as good, and more convenient.

I did bring up mods as one of the strengths of PC gaming, but I am of the belief that most people don't bother to go and hunt them down.  Most people are lazy with their entertainment, and want what is preferred and will usually pay for it.  I speak here of the masses, who are what are needed to buy in large enough numbers to support high production costs for creating content that is sufficiently high quality.  For core gamers, the mods are awesome, and they get into them.  For the average person, it isn't so.  They just don't go and hunt them down.