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vlad321 on 06 July 2010
Mr Puggsly said:

It sure seems like VGChartz is riddled with obnoxious people recently. God forbid I see the advantages of OnLive and the appeal it may have. Its almost like you are personally threatened by this service.

The foreign concept to you seems to be not everyone has a powerful graphics card even though they have a fast processor. Even with lowered settings you can have a choppy frame rate and compatibility issues due to poor graphics hardware.

There are a lot of budget computers on the market today can easily handle OnLIve with no need for additional hardware upgrades. That's the advantage to the service. And if you're a casual PC user, the OnLive service can be much less of a pain in the ass.

It sure seems like VGChartz is riddles with obnoxious people who can't read recently. Did you even read the posts about cost? How much before the money sunk in OnLive is more than a good graphics card?

Edit: To demonstrate my point, you can get a 9800GT for $90-ish buck give or take some depending on the deal/sale. With that I was able to play through Metro 2033 on High/Med and it probably will last me enough for several years to come. The net cost of it is far less thn that of OnLive.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

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Soleron on 07 July 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
...

It sure seems like VGChartz is riddled with obnoxious people recently. God forbid I see the advantages of OnLive and the appeal it may have. Its almost like you are personally threatened by this service.

The foreign concept to you seems to be not everyone has a powerful graphics card even though they have a fast processor. Even with lowered settings you can have a choppy frame rate and compatibility issues due to poor graphics hardware.

There are a lot of budget computers on the market today can easily handle OnLIve with no need for additional hardware upgrades. That's the advantage to the service. And if you're a casual PC user, the OnLive service can be much less of a pain in the ass.

But EVERY computer is going to have fast-enough graphics next year! Even the budget office ones.

So OnLive's market will peak this year and only decline after.

Once you have that hardware, OnLive won't be easier to use than, say, Steam.



Mr Puggsly on 07 July 2010
Soleron said:
Mr Puggsly said:
...

It sure seems like VGChartz is riddled with obnoxious people recently. God forbid I see the advantages of OnLive and the appeal it may have. Its almost like you are personally threatened by this service.

The foreign concept to you seems to be not everyone has a powerful graphics card even though they have a fast processor. Even with lowered settings you can have a choppy frame rate and compatibility issues due to poor graphics hardware.

There are a lot of budget computers on the market today can easily handle OnLIve with no need for additional hardware upgrades. That's the advantage to the service. And if you're a casual PC user, the OnLive service can be much less of a pain in the ass.

But EVERY computer is going to have fast-enough graphics next year! Even the budget office ones.

So OnLive's market will peak this year and only decline after.

Once you have that hardware, OnLive won't be easier to use than, say, Steam.

You assume every computer will have a high end gaming card. But they definitely won't have the capability to play the latest high end games. Especially laptops.

Also the OnLive micro console will be a great choice for people who have a low end computer and don't want to invest into a new computer.



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Mr Puggsly on 07 July 2010
vlad321 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

It sure seems like VGChartz is riddled with obnoxious people recently. God forbid I see the advantages of OnLive and the appeal it may have. Its almost like you are personally threatened by this service.

The foreign concept to you seems to be not everyone has a powerful graphics card even though they have a fast processor. Even with lowered settings you can have a choppy frame rate and compatibility issues due to poor graphics hardware.

There are a lot of budget computers on the market today can easily handle OnLIve with no need for additional hardware upgrades. That's the advantage to the service. And if you're a casual PC user, the OnLive service can be much less of a pain in the ass.

It sure seems like VGChartz is riddles with obnoxious people who can't read recently. Did you even read the posts about cost? How much before the money sunk in OnLive is more than a good graphics card?

Edit: To demonstrate my point, you can get a 9800GT for $90-ish buck give or take some depending on the deal/sale. With that I was able to play through Metro 2033 on High/Med and it probably will last me enough for several years to come. The net cost of it is far less thn that of OnLive.

My point is you don't have to be a douche to get a point across. I obviously know you can get a decent graphics card for around $100. But its not quite that easy for a laptop. And ofcourse, the OnLive micro console is gonna be great for people with a low end computer.

Also, clearly there are a lot of people with disposable income and do not consider long term savings. For example, Xbox Live is a pay service yet it has a very active community. People can play many of the same games online via the PS3 or PC, but they pay for Live anyway.

Have you actually used OnLive yet by the way? Its actually a very impressive service. Also incredibly simple to use.



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Mr Puggsly on 07 July 2010
dahuman said:


If they are casual with PC, then I think going console is the better way for now, I'm not saying the service won't blossom in the future, I'm just saying with the way some countries are, it's not easy for it to take off.

But the OnLive software is extremely easy to use though. The installation is simple, the interface is simple and doesn't have much settings, you pick a game and it starts. Just as easy as using a console in my opinion.

Seems like hardcore PC gamers hate it. But I see it appealing to the casual market.



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vlad321 on 07 July 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
vlad321 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

It sure seems like VGChartz is riddled with obnoxious people recently. God forbid I see the advantages of OnLive and the appeal it may have. Its almost like you are personally threatened by this service.

The foreign concept to you seems to be not everyone has a powerful graphics card even though they have a fast processor. Even with lowered settings you can have a choppy frame rate and compatibility issues due to poor graphics hardware.

There are a lot of budget computers on the market today can easily handle OnLIve with no need for additional hardware upgrades. That's the advantage to the service. And if you're a casual PC user, the OnLive service can be much less of a pain in the ass.

It sure seems like VGChartz is riddles with obnoxious people who can't read recently. Did you even read the posts about cost? How much before the money sunk in OnLive is more than a good graphics card?

Edit: To demonstrate my point, you can get a 9800GT for $90-ish buck give or take some depending on the deal/sale. With that I was able to play through Metro 2033 on High/Med and it probably will last me enough for several years to come. The net cost of it is far less thn that of OnLive.

My point is you don't have to be a douche to get a point across. I obviously know you can get a decent graphics card for around $100. But its not quite that easy for a laptop. And ofcourse, the OnLive micro console is gonna be great for people with a low end computer.

Also, clearly there are a lot of people with disposable income and do not consider long term savings. For example, Xbox Live is a pay service yet it has a very active community. People can play many of the same games online via the PS3 or PC, but they pay for Live anyway.

Have you actually used OnLive yet by the way? Its actually a very impressive service. Also incredibly simple to use.


So your point is that people are idiots who will pay more for inferior results? I can get behind that.

Also I have used it, in fact I have 2 separate Founder's Member invitations and I have used only one. Maybe you should REALLY read what I posted earlier in this thread. OnLive out consolifies the consoles, if anythign will happen it will kill off the console market, it  does the pluses of consoles better and all the shortfalls are worse when compared to PCs.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

Mr Puggsly on 07 July 2010
vlad321 said:


So your point is that people are idiots who will pay more for inferior results? I can get behind that.

Also I have used it, in fact I have 2 separate Founder's Member invitations and I have used only one. Maybe you should REALLY read what I posted earlier in this thread. OnLive out consolifies the consoles, if anythign will happen it will kill off the console market, it  does the pluses of consoles better and all the shortfalls are worse when compared to PCs.


Bingo! But I don't think that makes them idiots. Does it get lonely on your pedestal up there?

Am I writing your biography? I'm not gonna read everything you post.

I hightly doubt it'll kill the console market. But lets hope it gives a nice boost to PC software sales. I mean what if some major titles were only released via OnLive? That would definitely be a crippling blow to piracy.



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NJ5 on 07 July 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
vlad321 said:


So your point is that people are idiots who will pay more for inferior results? I can get behind that.

Also I have used it, in fact I have 2 separate Founder's Member invitations and I have used only one. Maybe you should REALLY read what I posted earlier in this thread. OnLive out consolifies the consoles, if anythign will happen it will kill off the console market, it  does the pluses of consoles better and all the shortfalls are worse when compared to PCs.


Bingo! But I don't think that makes them idiots. Does it get lonely on your pedestal up there?

Am I writing your biography? I'm not gonna read everything you post.

I hightly doubt it'll kill the console market. But lets hope it gives a nice boost to PC software sales. I mean what if some major titles were only released via OnLive? That would definitely be a crippling blow to piracy.


It could also easily be a crippling blow to the revenue from PC games, since many people don't have a good enough connection for Onlive, and it's not even available in the whole world yet. Europe is the biggest PC games market I believe.



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Soleron on 07 July 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
Soleron said:
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But EVERY computer is going to have fast-enough graphics next year! Even the budget office ones.

So OnLive's market will peak this year and only decline after.

Once you have that hardware, OnLive won't be easier to use than, say, Steam.

You assume every computer will have a high end gaming card. But they definitely won't have the capability to play the latest high end games. Especially laptops.

Also the OnLive micro console will be a great choice for people who have a low end computer and don't want to invest into a new computer.

Please read what I wrote.

Next year, EVERY COMPUTER WHETHER IT HAS A GRAPHICS CARD OR NOT will have good enough graphics to play PC games, because EVERY SINGLE NEW CPU will have a "high-end gaming card" equivalent actually on the CPU itself. Even netbook CPUs.

Yes, OnLive will still be an option for those people who won't buy a new PC next year. But that market can only shrink from this year, as people replace their computers anyway. And again, even if they buy THE CHEAPEST MODEL FROM DELL OR HP it will be able to play decent PC games.

Sorry for allcaps but you completely failed to read the first sentence of my post you quoted.

AMD's mainstream laptop CPU, Llano, will have the same number of shaders as an HD 5670, which can play all of the very latest games at playable framerates on medium settings at OnLive's 720p resolution.

AMD's netbook CPU, Ontario, can play Alien v. Predator at playable framerates on medium settings at 720p too. And since a netbook is the least powerful form of PC one can buy...



GutterRunner on 07 July 2010

You can buy the lowest spec Xbox 360 for what? $150 - $200 ? so if the OnLive micro console is over $100 then they're really failing there.

Me, I'm just surprised the technology actually works.