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Farmageddon said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

in another post you didn't under my comments and bolded them.you didn't do any of it.you just posted your commnets just like that which made if difficult to separate which is why i told you to stop

really did they say smoke and mirror,don't remember it.also even if they said it why do it if it doesn't prove useful.and how would t be naive if they showcased it at E3 and talk of it as an upcoming thing

the illusion of the conversation was not it when they showcased it last E3 but much much much more and much bigger than chatterbots.illusion a  very different word from what they did there

I'm pretty sure I did bold it, but it doesn't matter.

Yup, he said that, in those words, at BAFTA:

""Right, can we dare to create a character which anybody interacting with that character would truly believe was alive?" and we took that challenge and I admit to you now that a lot of it is smoke and mirrors and tricks, but that doesn't matter."

What do you mean by proving usefull? They believe it can make for a nice experience and a nice game, and so they're doing it. It's just not the kind of thing you (and aparently many others) seem to assume it is, the kind of thing you'd have scientists reasearching with government funds. What it is is a prduct that tries to look like that. And that's what they shown, and that's what's coming.

And this is Molyneux, of course he'll use as many hyperboles as are known to man when talking about a new project.

so now you made it BAFTA after E3 claims

 

if they belive it can make it useful then how does wating time over MILO help or make it useful????-thats the main  question is,why the hell waste time over it?



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Solid_Snake4RD said:
Farmageddon said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

in another post you didn't under my comments and bolded them.you didn't do any of it.you just posted your commnets just like that which made if difficult to separate which is why i told you to stop

really did they say smoke and mirror,don't remember it.also even if they said it why do it if it doesn't prove useful.and how would t be naive if they showcased it at E3 and talk of it as an upcoming thing

the illusion of the conversation was not it when they showcased it last E3 but much much much more and much bigger than chatterbots.illusion a  very different word from what they did there

I'm pretty sure I did bold it, but it doesn't matter.

Yup, he said that, in those words, at BAFTA:

""Right, can we dare to create a character which anybody interacting with that character would truly believe was alive?" and we took that challenge and I admit to you now that a lot of it is smoke and mirrors and tricks, but that doesn't matter."

What do you mean by proving usefull? They believe it can make for a nice experience and a nice game, and so they're doing it. It's just not the kind of thing you (and aparently many others) seem to assume it is, the kind of thing you'd have scientists reasearching with government funds. What it is is a prduct that tries to look like that. And that's what they shown, and that's what's coming.

And this is Molyneux, of course he'll use as many hyperboles as are known to man when talking about a new project.

so now you made it BAFTA after E3 claims

 

if they belive it can make it useful then how does wating time over MILO help or make it useful????-thats the main  question is,why the hell waste time over it?

Those specifc words come from BAFTA, but Molyneux also told members of the press who were demoed Milo at E3 similar things.

And I'm sorry, but I simply don't understand your second paragraph.



Farmageddon said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Farmageddon said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

in another post you didn't under my comments and bolded them.you didn't do any of it.you just posted your commnets just like that which made if difficult to separate which is why i told you to stop

really did they say smoke and mirror,don't remember it.also even if they said it why do it if it doesn't prove useful.and how would t be naive if they showcased it at E3 and talk of it as an upcoming thing

the illusion of the conversation was not it when they showcased it last E3 but much much much more and much bigger than chatterbots.illusion a  very different word from what they did there

I'm pretty sure I did bold it, but it doesn't matter.

Yup, he said that, in those words, at BAFTA:

""Right, can we dare to create a character which anybody interacting with that character would truly believe was alive?" and we took that challenge and I admit to you now that a lot of it is smoke and mirrors and tricks, but that doesn't matter."

What do you mean by proving usefull? They believe it can make for a nice experience and a nice game, and so they're doing it. It's just not the kind of thing you (and aparently many others) seem to assume it is, the kind of thing you'd have scientists reasearching with government funds. What it is is a prduct that tries to look like that. And that's what they shown, and that's what's coming.

And this is Molyneux, of course he'll use as many hyperboles as are known to man when talking about a new project.

so now you made it BAFTA after E3 claims

 

if they belive it can make it useful then how does wating time over MILO help or make it useful????-thats the main  question is,why the hell waste time over it?

Those specifc words come from BAFTA, but Molyneux also told members of the press who were demoed Milo at E3 similar things.

And I'm sorry, but I simply don't understand your second paragraph.


my second para was questioning why they even made it and most of all wasted time at E3?

whatever peter said to the E3 demoees last year but everyone wo got the demo was bahing NATAL and MILO

 

IGN said that it was all not true AND that tech didn't work according neither was MILO but MS told them it will develop over time



Solid_Snake4RD said:

my second para was questioning why they even made it and most of all wasted time at E3?

whatever peter said to the E3 demoees last year but everyone wo got the demo was bahing NATAL and MILO

 

IGN said that it was all not true AND that tech didn't work according neither was MILO but MS told them it will develop over time


Why they made it? Maybe because they believe people will like it? Or because Molyneux is "obsessed" with making you bond with an AI? I mean, he has this vision, and he thinks people will like it, so why wouldn't he make it?

And it was used at E3 to generate more hype for Natal as well as show the game off.

Also, they had only had 2 months with Natal by then, so it's obvious the thing wouldn't be very polished.

Oh, I just looked for the IGN impression of Milo, and it's completelly different from what one would expect given your comment:

"Though none of us got to see the picture-scanning segment or the aforementioned fish-skipping moments from Monday, Milo did react to most of what we did in a believable way when we did it "properly." Obviously, there's still a long ways to go... Even so, the potential for this game and how you could ultimately interact with the character is very high, and I'm excited to see where it goes next."

He also says he was impressed by Natal. And by the way he describes it, he made confunsing questions, and those gave Milo problems, but the thing worked when he dropped those. Again, just like a chatterbox, it's not intended to be used trying to break it, but if you try to see how much of a conversation you can actually squeeze out of it, it can be fun even when the thing itself is very rudimentary. Kind of like a puzzle.

So, yeah. But Milo has been "reannounced" (or un-canned), so you really have no point in saying they realized they couldn't make it or anything like that.



slowmo said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
Dallinor said:
slowmo said:

Slow week for Sony news?  Usually the case when we start seeing Kinect bashing threads.


In what way is this 'Kinect bashing news?'


in "I am too emotional and I get my feelings hurt easily" :)


More like I'm bored of reading Sony fans trolling kind of way.  Welcome to the site not that we need another one of you.

you have like 10xmy posts and yet you call rainbird a troll , you think the news weren't reporting worthy when he thought it was true? maybe you should more attention next time to the OP before calling him a troll or better yet, stop being too emotional.



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hatmoza said:

So it was all just a lie to get attention.  What a cheap tactic.


Nah they just realised what Greenberg said was dangerous to Kinect PR so they will pretend to continue developing it and officialy cancel it next year when people already bough some of those cameras.



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slowmo said:
Dallinor said:
slowmo said:

Slow week for Sony news?  Usually the case when we start seeing Kinect bashing threads.


In what way is this 'Kinect bashing news?'

I happen to believe the way the OP steered the discussion and many subsequent posts in this thread have only one intention, you believe what you like, I'm merely stating an opinion.

 

I find the update rather hilarious reading through this thread again.

Lol, thanks for shit.



sad.man.loves.vgc said:
slowmo said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
Dallinor said:
slowmo said:

Slow week for Sony news?  Usually the case when we start seeing Kinect bashing threads.


In what way is this 'Kinect bashing news?'


in "I am too emotional and I get my feelings hurt easily" :)


More like I'm bored of reading Sony fans trolling kind of way.  Welcome to the site not that we need another one of you.

you have like 10xmy posts and yet you call rainbird a troll , you think the news weren't reporting worthy when he thought it was true? maybe you should more attention next time to the OP before calling him a troll or better yet, stop being too emotional.

The news was never report worthy.  Maybe you should try reading what I wrote, I never explicitly called the OP a troll in this instance.  I aint emotional, perhaps you should stop taking things so personal yourself.  I'll express my opinion however I feel (I'm not breaking any rules), if you don't like that then I suggest you don't read my posts.  Bye bye.



Rainbird said:
slowmo said:
Dallinor said:
slowmo said:

Slow week for Sony news?  Usually the case when we start seeing Kinect bashing threads.


In what way is this 'Kinect bashing news?'

I happen to believe the way the OP steered the discussion and many subsequent posts in this thread have only one intention, you believe what you like, I'm merely stating an opinion.

 

I find the update rather hilarious reading through this thread again.

Lol, thanks for shit.


I somehow seemed to think another poster who has been very prevalent in this thread was the OP not yourself.  In other words I apologise for accusing you of steering the conversation in any way whatsoever.  I do still think you jumped the gun posting the "news" though.



slowmo said:
Rainbird said:
slowmo said:

I happen to believe the way the OP steered the discussion and many subsequent posts in this thread have only one intention, you believe what you like, I'm merely stating an opinion.

 

I find the update rather hilarious reading through this thread again.

Lol, thanks for shit.

I somehow seemed to think another poster who has been very prevalent in this thread was the OP not yourself.  In other words I apologise for accusing you of steering the conversation in any way whatsoever.  I do still think you jumped the gun posting the "news" though.

No harm done, although I don't see how it wasn't newsworthy ,he made a pretty clear statement after all, but whatever.