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I've stopped playing the main mario games when sunshine came out.  I don't know if they are bad or good but they do not appeal to me anymore.



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amp316 said:
lvader said:

Just because they are using known characters doesn't mean what they are doing with them isn't inovative. SMG2 is far more fresh and new than anything from Sony or MS.

Oh come on.

SMG2 is the same game as SMG, but has Yoshi.

I'm not saying that it isn't a really well made game, but please give me something a little different. 

OK go play some LittleBigPlanet and stop complaining... There are plenty of options out there (thank God for competition), Nintendo people are very bussy counting their money for a well done job to care about some people thinking they lived in the past.    :P



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AppetitePat said:

When's the last time Nintendo created a new IP? (excluding shit like brain age)


Well this is what I can recall of the top of my head for this generation:

Wii... Series

Brain Training

Nintendogs

Disaster:DoC

Captain Rainbow

Nintendo Touch Golf

Big Brain Acadamy

Art Acadamy

Soma Bringer

Endless Ocean

Another Code

Zangeki no Reinglev

Flingsmash

Xenoblade

Maboshi

Rock and Roll Climber

Bonsai Barber

Eco Shooter 530

Jam with the Band

Polarium

Elite Beat Agents

Electroplankton

Hotel Dusk

Style Boutique

Flipnote Studio

 

Of course 'shit' is a subjective term, but the bolded are ones I have played and thought are very good




yea but they make millions.



amp316 said:
infamous23 said:
amp316 said:
infamous23 said:
amp316 said:
infamous23 said:

It's more like they refuse to move out of the family friendly mold.  And yeah, they do have Metroid:  Other M, but does anyone expect that to be controversial enough to get any higher than a T rating?  I really don't think with their current success that Nintendo would have the guts to put out edgier games like Heavy Rain.

Didn't Nintendo publish Eternal Darkness?  What was the rating on that? 

About Heavy Rain.  Isn't it like one of those old Choose Your Own Adventure books?  Don't you just select what you want to do and the game does it for you, or am I mistaken? 

Nintendo didn't develop Eternal Darkness.  That was Silicon Knights.  And it was made in the Gamecube era at a time when Nintendo might not have been playing as safe with game ideas to protect sales unlike now when they announce two 2d platformers in one E3 conference instead of any new thematic ideas for their games.

Don't know.  Never played it.  But at least it has a story that takes game stories in a new direction according to several reviewers.

But they did publish it which counts for something.  Now why would Nintendo want to protect sales during the Gamecube era when their sales weren't very good?  Are you telling me that if you're behind; making a game that doesn't appeal to the masses is a better idea than doing it if you're ahead?

How can you talk about something that you haven't played according to reviews? 

Watch this:  I have never played GTA IV, but I declare it one of the greatest games of all time according to reviews.  Do you respect my opinion on the game?    

      I didn't say Nintendo was trying to protect sales during the Gamecube era.  I said they were probably more willing to take chances on risquier fare back then because they weren't trying to protect sales like they most likely are now when every core game that they have in release is an update in a decades old series, most hardcore series are either conversions of Gamecube games to Wii (or made by Grasshopper Studios), and they love to hype each new party or Wiii series games that they are releasing instead of coming up with an edgier new core ip.

I would say that being ahead and thought of as the family friendly console would probably give them reservations about making a game with lapdancing in it and promoting it heavilly.

Yeah, I thought GTA IV deserved its review scores or at least it didn't deserve nearly as much criticism as it later received.  It was an apt social criticism of America at the time while spinning a more serious story than San Andreas.  And its European gangsters actually had substance rather than the hip-hop modelled characters of SA.

I know what you were saying and I'm saying that it doesn't make sense.  What I am saying is that Nintendo can take all of the chances in the worlsd with a game like Eternal Darkness now.  More than they could have back then.  Most hardcore games are made by Grasshopper Studios or conversions of Gamecube games?  What about Manhunt 2, HoTD : Overkill, or Madworld?  Those games don't fit into that mold.

HoTD: Overkill starts out with a stripper on a pole and that was promoted on television.

I don't act like I know anything about GTA IV because I don't base my opinions on a game by what reviewers tell me.

Well, if they could make a game like Eternal Darkness, it would seem that they're much more interested in making Party and Wii Series games and some of the new games like that they didn't bring to America like Fatal Frame IV and Disaster:  Day of Crisis.

They did make a more controversial game this gen, but they didn't bring it to America.  Captain Birdo or something?

HOTD, Manhunter 2, and Madworld weren't made by Nintendo.

If Nintendo really wanted to be edgy there would be sex, nudity, and gore in Other M, but I would say there will be very little of that in Other M in comparison to the typical games on the other systems.

I know about GTA IV because I played it.



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That was a very insightful post. 

And there's more for the U.S version of Kid Icarus. In '87 the Simpsons first aired, and everyone knows that every Simpsons fan is living in the past. 



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amp316 said:

I know that many people love Nintendo the way that they are, but I am here to show undeniable proof why living in the past is a problem.  Sure, people love Mario, Donkey Kong, Samus, Kirby, and the rest, but Nintendo really should move on to biggger and better things without revisiting the same ideas over and over.  Tired and true is becoming just plain tired and maybe not that true at all. 

I'll show you the dangerous ground that Nintendo is treading on by taking a closer look at the years in which Nintendo is reliving with this year's E3 announcements:

1928.  Nintendo is taking us back to this year by showing off Epic Mickey.  How?  This is when Steamboat Willie was released and it is celebrated as the birth of Mickey Mouse.  Unfortunately, also that same year on July 6th, the largest hailstone ever found fell out of the sky onto Potter, Nebraska.  It was seven inches around and weighed 1.5 pounds.  I don't know what that converts to in metric for people that aren't familiar with measurements in standard, but that's enough to crack you head open violently if it descended from the heavens.  Is this the sort of thing that Nintendo should be reliving?

1981 is the year that Mario and Donkey Kong first appeared in Donkey Kong and both have new games coming.  Also, on August 1st of that year, MTV debuted.  It singlehandedly destroyed music and started reality television later on in it's existence with The Real World.  To hell with you MTV.  Not even Men Without Hat's The Safety Dance can justify your existence.

1986 is the year that the Legend of Zelda, Metroid, and Kid Icarus all came into the gaming world and have new games releasing.  I know what you're thinking.  How could someone possibly not want to relive that?  Unfortunately, on April 21st, Geraldo Rivera opened Al Capone's secret vault live on The Mysteries of Al Capone's Vault.  The show was hyped up for what seemed to be fifteen years straight.  All that was found was a bottle of moonshine.  Rumor has it that it was actually set down by one of Geraldo's camera operators.

1992 is the year that we all first met Kirby, the star of the upcoming Kirby's Big Yarn.  On November 27th, Brett Favre made his first start for the Green Bay Packers.  I have never been right in the head since that day.  I am a Chicago Bears fan, after all.

1997 is the year that the game GoldenEye 007 hit store shelves and now we are being treated to a new one.  On December 19th of this year, Titanic was released.  Need I say more?

Another huge concern I have with Nintendo living in the past is the announcement of the 3DS. 

"But Mr. 316, the 3DS is the future," I hear some of you saying. 

Not so fast.  It's the past...

The popularity of 3D stems from 3D movies.  The first film of it's kind hit theaters in 1922 and was named The Power of Love.  That's pretty far in the past, isn't it?  It didn't really catch on and was extremely rare up until the Golden Age of 3D which was 1952-1955.  Some of the features made from that time included Creature From the Black Lagoon, House Of Wax, It Came From Outer Space, House On Haunted Hill, and the legendary Robot Monster.  The 60's through 80's had a bit of a revival with classics such as Amityville 3-D, Friday the 13th Part 3, Jaws 3-D, and Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone.  In 1985 IMAX came into existence, and there have been several forms of 3D since then.  The rest, as we say, is history.  Now it's extremely difficult to see a blockbuster movie that doesn't have showings in 3D.  Roger Ebert has stated on numerous occasions that 3D is a gimmick when he hasn't gone on at length about gaming not being a form of art.

It could be worse for Nintendo though.  They can't copy their own system like others are which brings us to the year 2006.  Nothing too eventful happened except for the release of the Wii.

In conclusion, I just want to state that you shouldn't live in the past like Nintendo.  You might find yourself enjoying their sequels and rehashes and you might wind up having an avatar of Sean Connery as James Bond.  How lame is that?  Don't live in the past.     

 

They know how to change things up with their franchises. It stills like the rest of the industry just wants to keep making call of duty knockoffs. I rather play games that I know will change then modern warfare clone 100.



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I'm not falling for this shit again, and I still own you one, bigtime.



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