I have come to the conclusion that the only people that bitch and whine about graphics are newbies to gaming

Im so sick and tired of all the...if the graphics arent top notch than the game is crap  b.s. that seems to plague these simple minded minds on these boards....What ever happened to just playing the games and having fun??

Dont you guys realize This state of mind is whats killing the game industry??

 Graphics arent everything people,Seems like The only ones to really realize this are the Wii faithful ..

 so why cant ps3 & 360 users also??

I swear I for one have been gaming for years and this current generation of gamers are the most annoying...shit

Most of the graphics whoring nowadays is only a derivative expression of fanboysm, since ps3 and 360 are the two oppining consoles with the most similar game library in history, graphics is the easiest thing to conplain about, I mean you don't even have to try the game before start complaining....and these trend is also caused by developers that spends most of their time tring to create the coolest engine instead of designing an original excperience.

and....Are you sure that "real" graphics whores did ever actually knew what gaming was about?

That would have some validity if Wii had games at par with popular HD games. I mean if I want to play games like Halo or Mass Effect, Zelda and Mario aren't gonna fill the void.

Lets not reduce everything on HD consoles to merely pretty graphics. Not only do HD games have much nicer visuals but the games often deliver an experience much different then you tend to find on the Wii.

Nowadays graphics comes with the complete package.

I know what you mean, but I think there is a certain level that must be achieved graphics-wise for a game to be good. Now bear with me here, check-out previous generations of gaming. The level of graphics steadily increased and a new standard was created with every new generation. I believe that there is more to gaming than just graphics, but there has to be a certain level that developers must achieve for their game to be counted as good. 

i think its the Halo Generation and the Kids that  are graphic whores

Now that's a laugh!

Here we have it people

And not to mention that all previous gens have been the same. No one really noticed as much because the internet wasnt as popular then. But i do know from experiance with my friends and familly back in the 90's that the games with the better graphics were usually the games that were more popular

While I understand what you're getting at, there are too many games with terrible graphics, even for their time, that are nonetheless of fantastic quality.  Katamari looked like crap even when it came out, but it's still an awesome game.  F-Zero X looked (but didn't play) more like a Super-FX title than a N64 game.  Earth Defense Force is crap on a technical level, but you'll find few people who played it without loving it. 

What we really care about is a game's quality, and while great graphics can be a superficial indicator of quality, it's never been determinative.

Playstation games generally had better graphics than Nintendo 64 or Sega Saturn graphics?

NES games had better graphics than its many competitors?

PC games have always been the most popular games around?

So only Wii owners can truely appreciate gaming?   So this whole time I have been missing out on great gaming experiences because I dont have one?   So if I get a Wii will I enjoy Heavy Rain and MGS4 more than I already do?   Will it make Killzone 2 & Gears of War 2 even better shooters than I think they already are?  

Or are you just saying the Wii games are the only great gaming experiences to be had this gen and all HD games suck?

Well I do agree with one thing you said, this current gen of gamers are annoying as shit,  and this thread proves that point