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Forums - Gaming Discussion - When VGchartz will begin to consider the Ipod/pad as a gaming system?

scottie on 20 April 2010
perpride said:
when apple stops trying to shove it down our throat as a gaming system.

Pardon? What have Apple done to shove things down our throat?



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bdbdbd on 20 April 2010
scottie said:
guiduc said:

1) is really Apple trying to infiltrate the gaming industry? It might be flash mini-games, but with the success of their handhelds, the demand will increase and they will have to create deeper and more complex games.

 

 

 

2) What do you think about the expansion of Apple in the gaming industry? 3) Will VGchartz compile someday the sales of the Apple's systems? 4) Will the gaming industry recognize Apple as a new entry?

 

3) I'll take a guess and say that Apple will enter the market if NPD and other market researcher are able to retrace the sales of softwares.

4) Are people recognizing Ipod/Pad as gaming systems? I don't think so. But Apple is becoming a treat since the Ipod begins to substitute the purchase of a DS or PSP as an opportunity cost for some people.

But again, softwares need to be improved further. I think that games need to be the main point of the Ipod to bring recognition to the system as a "gaming" one.

 

When will Apple's systems be recognized as gaming handhelds? 2012?

 

1) Has already tried and succeded. Don't expect a huge Apple 1st party or moneyhatted exclusives, but Apple have entered the gaming industry in an incredible way

 

2) The more the merrier - for the most part, Apple is getting customers by expanding the industry, and letting people game more

 

3) Impossible, Apple is tightlipped about software sales (and hardware sales through the Apple stores) and the Iphone is sold at way too many retailers to be easy to track

 

4) Most of it already has, just not forum trolls or the low calibre gaming sites

iPhone is sold at limited carriers, that actually makes the tracking hard, if not impossible. If it would be sold everywhere, getting the sales data would be much easier. Just like it currently is with games and consoles. If the carriers would provide the data, it would be the easiest hardware to track on the site.



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scottie on 20 April 2010
bdbdbd said:
scottie said:
guiduc said:

 

 

1) Has already tried and succeded. Don't expect a huge Apple 1st party or moneyhatted exclusives, but Apple have entered the gaming industry in an incredible way

 

2) The more the merrier - for the most part, Apple is getting customers by expanding the industry, and letting people game more

 

3) Impossible, Apple is tightlipped about software sales (and hardware sales through the Apple stores) and the Iphone is sold at way too many retailers to be easy to track

 

4) Most of it already has, just not forum trolls or the low calibre gaming sites

iPhone is sold at limited carriers, that actually makes the tracking hard, if not impossible. If it would be sold everywhere, getting the sales data would be much easier. Just like it currently is with games and consoles. If the carriers would provide the data, it would be the easiest hardware to track on the site.

I'm a little bit unsure what you were saying sorry. But in order to track the Iphone, a company such as VGChartz would need to track many companies it doesnt currently, the 3 biggest being Phone stores, some general electronic retailers and the Apple stores (both physical and online)



bdbdbd on 20 April 2010

@Scottie: I thought they were still doing their exclusivity deals with selected carriers. Atleast here they are still doing it. But, if it's "open for retail", i was mistaken and in order to track it, VGC would need to get data from new retailers, which actually would make the tracking possible.



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scottie on 20 April 2010

Ahh, they might still be, I'm not sure. Although a sizeable portion of iphone sales are actually ipod touches, which have never been exclusive to anywhere



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Beuli2 on 20 April 2010

So, let's also the sales of all other phones, they have games too, right? Oh, and my DVD Player play some games too. Maybe we should also account the downloads of Emulators and add them to the total Hardware sales...



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scottie on 20 April 2010
Beuli2 said:
So, let's also the sales of all other phones, they have games too, right? Oh, and my DVD play some games too. Maybe we should also account the downloads of Emulators and add them to the total Hardware sales...

 

The Iphone is not just some crappy dvd player that has snake on it

 

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/flurry-iphone-overtakes-psp-in-game-software-revenue/



theRepublic on 20 April 2010

Gaming phones are to handhelds as PCs are to home consoles.

So we probably aren't going to see much in the way of tracking.



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bdbdbd on 20 April 2010
scottie said:
Ahh, they might still be, I'm not sure. Although a sizeable portion of iphone sales are actually ipod touches, which have never been exclusive to anywhere

Well yes, if we consider the "hardware" as iPhone OS, it indeed would be different from what i said. You're right.



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