KungKras said:
Scoobes said:
You might think that but they do sell quite a lot a are often applauded. They also seemingly have a different attitude to Nintendo in that this gen especially they've brought out a lot of new IPs. The new IPs are just not going to push hardware in the same way that Nintendo's 1st party titles will, which have a recognisable character/brand immediately. Just count how many games have been released that have the name "Mario". Sony don't have a definable character that can push hardware the same as Mario, Link or Samus can. Essentially, Nintendo have 20yrs of rich and defined history to fall back on. They can make any game they want and put in a character from an existing franchise to push consoles. So I don't think that calling Sony 1st party "weak" is necceassarily true, more that they don't have any definable characters/mascot to push software and consequently hardware. Even MS have Master Chief.
The other problem is that the biggest old gen IPs have yet to see a full release (Gran Turismo, God of War comming out soon).
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I see it like this. If SCE was a third party company, it would be insanely strong. But as a first party, it is weak. If they don't try to have at least one easily identifiable series like thier competition, that is a form of weakness. SCE is very scattered and not very integrated. This still means that they can make good games, but it makes it so much harder for them to push hardware. The entire structure is flawed, that's the thing. If SCE was a third party, it would be a really really strong one. But as a first party, different qualities than just churning out games of random genres are required.
I do think non-establised franchises can push hardware. just look at the Wii series. It just has to be the correct software. I want Nintendo to make new core games, like they did during the NES days and the SNES days. Their creativity used to be one of their strenghts and now they haven't made a new game universe in ages. (I don't mean the gameplay creativity).
It will be interresting when GT and GoW are released. Then we will truly see how good they are at pushing hardware.
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see bro, your what's known as a casual, mainstream gamer. due to the lack of knowledge when it comes to gaming, it's not a bad thing,but not a good thing either.
what you consider weakness is really called diversity. The very thing that makes Sony and it's developers the best is that they don't stick to the same old, same old. There willingness to step outside the box, take risk is what the industry is all about. now to the casual and mainstream gamers, this is a weird, not smart way to do business, what they like yourself don't know is those are the titles that start the established fanchises that will push hardware and market share. it's truely the only reason I stick with Sony and ps3, because I know who's actually innovating the industry, and will continue to put out new, fresh things, instead of the same old same old.
and there willingness to do that knowing they could take the generic, mediocre, way that would insure market domination... well those are the guys I wanna support.
people's focus on market share, and sales are the real downfall of the generation, gamers have stopped being gamers, and now all act as if there shareholders.
stop being robots people. where better than that imo.