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KungKras said:
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Microsoft. Relying on third parties The PS2 to PS3 transition showed what a good investment that was for Sony in the previous gen. Arrogance and weak first party.

Sony. Arrogance, inability to innovate, weak first party.

Nintendo. Hated by third parties. Failure to deliver on motion control content promise. (Since the Wii launch, I'm STILL waiting for an awesome sword fighting and archery game in a fantasy world or an awesome lightsaber game. FU lucasarts!)

so much fail in a single post.

as a matter of a fact this whole thread is full of fail.

Where did I fail?

Your failure point was probably when you said Sony have a weak first-party; Sony has the largest first-party in terms of developers than Nintendo or Microsoft (possibly put together). They probably release more titles than any of the big 3, although with the Wii being much cheaper and easier to develop for Nintendo could still hold that. However, virtually all of Sony 1st party titles are big budget (or present themselves as big budget) games.

I know that they have many studios. And that they release plenty of games.

But I think all those studios and games are weak. Their games just blends in with all other games and does little to push hardware. It's only this generation that Sony first party has been tested to be able to carry a console, and it just barely did the job. That's pathetic for a company with two previous console generations on their record. IMHO (Not to say that they don't make good games)

You might think that but they do sell quite a lot a are often applauded. They also seemingly have a different attitude to Nintendo in that this gen especially they've brought out a lot of new IPs. The new IPs are just not going to push hardware in the same way that Nintendo's 1st party titles will, which have a recognisable character/brand immediately. Just count how many games have been released that have the name "Mario". Sony don't have a definable character that can push hardware the same as Mario, Link or Samus can. Essentially, Nintendo have 20yrs of rich and defined history to fall back on. They can make any game they want and put in a character from an existing franchise to push consoles. So I don't think that calling Sony 1st party "weak" is necceassarily true, more that they don't have any definable characters/mascot to push software and consequently hardware. Even MS have Master Chief.

The other problem is that the biggest old gen IPs have yet to see a full release (Gran Turismo, God of War comming out soon).