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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Rumor: Scalebound resurrected as a Switch exclusive (Updated)

mjk45 said:
Werix357 said:

Platinum games output has been very good for Nintendo over the last 5 years making Retrostudios look like a joke, on the other hand Nintendo has not invested much into popular western game genres like FPS, which seems odd they never tried to replicate the success of GoldenEye 007 (on the N64).

I think Nintendo must of made a decision to avoid making games with realistic violence ever since GoldenEye 007, Eternal darkness being the only exception i'm aware of.

Anyway wouldn't be surprised if this turns out true as gameplay is what matters first to Nintendo, so taking Scalebound's gameplay mechanics and re-purposing them is one of Nintendo's strengths

That game would have been perfect dark.

Yeah true, I had both games but I feel Nintendo stepped away from military shooters, with perfect dark being more syfy shooter and goldeneye more military shooter if that makes any sense. From what I remember is Nintendo weren't too fond of the violence in goldeneye, at least from some of the articles I have read about the Rare/Nintendo days.



Microsoft is going to need the mother of all generations next gen if this is true. They would have wore out almost all of their good will and trust with many core gamers. Imagine what would happen if Platinum actually was making the game and it landed on the switch as a solid 9 game. Wow....XD



I see no purpose in this, all they have made under MS funding is probably lost, so they have to start from scratch. So unless they want to rub in MS face (doesn't seem likely since they are on amicable terms since crossplay on Minecraft and other ventures) there is no point in using the name, plus the concept is probably also owned by MS. So they have nothing but the name to use.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

CaptainExplosion said:
JamesGarret said:
I´ll just repeat what others are saying and yeah, Nintendo might as well just buy Platinum at this point.

But how much would that cost?

Also, I found this, making me question the rumor further.

Kellems left in March 2017 a month after Scalebound was cancelled so that's almost 2 years ago, this guy wouldn't have even known about Astral Chains let alone any recent attempt to revive Scalebound which insiders say they began hearing about around June last year which is over a year after he left. As he said himself he hasn't talked to anyone at PG since he left so it's hardly anything against the rumour.



I don't want to be THAT guy, but I wouldn't want PG to be bought by Nintendo. Everyone should be able to keep enjoying their games. Babylon and Granblue are 2 games that PS4 is getting that the others aren't. However, PG has a great relationship with Nintendo. It seems like they want to work with Nintendo more than anyone else. Outside of Scalebound, anytime a PG game came out for another platform....there was a different publisher funding the game. Except for Nintendo of course. I wonder why that is.



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mjk45 said:
If MS was clever they instead of having Scalebound's cancellation hanging over their head,they would be better off coming to terms with Nintendo and Platinum were they co publish the game on Switch, they at least gain something viable from the IP, they should make a statement saying they and Nintendo are partnering to bring the game to Switch, that way they maintain control rather than letting these rumors go on and on or worse seeing a Scalebound game whether it's called that or not on Switch with no involvement from them.

Would make MS a lot of favors on their image to publish their exclusive on Switch while cancelling on their own platform.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

S.T.A.G.E. said:
Microsoft is going to need the mother of all generations next gen if this is true. They would have wore out almost all of their good will and trust with many core gamers. Imagine what would happen if Platinum actually was making the game and it landed on the switch as a solid 9 game. Wow....XD

TO cancel a game that ends up with a 9 while keeping some that got under 70 would be a bad blow.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Azzanation said:

thismeintiel said: 

It's probably Kamiya's way of giving MS the finger.  Make the game the way he wants, plus use the same name so they know.  And it'll be even more sweet for him if it's a success, as it would prove to that he was right about what the game should have been in the first place.  

Well its kinda funny because if MS let the trademark go than clearly they dont give a flying f@#$.

In saying that, the fallout between MS and Platinum was rumoured to be about Platium failing to exceed deadlines (deadlines dont just mean launch date, but game progession meetings etc) so take it how you will.

I wouldnt be suprised if MS give the assets they own to a more reliable studio, maybe one of there recently owned ones and finish what was started.

For me, i couldnt careless. Scalebound never had me interested.

I might pick it up on the Switch if they change the direction. Ill wait and see.

Or maybe they figured no one would bother picking it up.  And what I have heard is that Platinum failed to deliver because MS put ridiculous demands on them for the game, including changing the original premise and focusing on multiplayer, while not giving them anymore funding to do so.  I also doubt MS will let someone else finish what they have with Scalebound.  If it didn't interest you before, then them continuing to go in the direction MS wanted it to go wouldn't please you.  It also wouldn't be called Scalebound, anymore if Nintendo or Platinum picked up the trademark.



shikamaru317 said:

Liam Robertson, the investigator for DidYouKnowGaming and writer for Comic Book and Nintendo Life, who leaked that Scalebound would be cancelled before MS announced it, has posted a new video about the revival rumor:

Summary of the video from Era:

  • Neither game is likely to come back.
  • Project HAMMER was a mess of a project that caused so much damage there's no reason to dig it up.
  • Robertson can't talk about Scalebound in specifics because of legal issues. *Clarified here
  • Platinum has unannounced projects and pitches but Robertson's has heard nothing that has indicated Scalebound.
  • The decision to cancel Scalebound was a mutual one between PlatinumGames and Microsoft.
  • One of the biggest reasons it was cancelled was the tech could not run the vision for the game. Bringing it back on even weaker hardware seems a strange decision.
  • Scalebound was a very personal project for the team. Picking it up when many folk who worked on it have left (and apparently more are planning on leaving) seems against PG's studio culture.
  • Rumor that Platinum has shelved a major project recently because they couldn't staff it. They don't have the manpower for another big game right now.
  • No reason for Microsoft to sell Scalebound as it would do damage to Microsoft. Showing that they were incapable of making the project happen but NIntendo could.
  • Robertson heard Nintendo and Microsoft are working on big things together.
  • Doesn't think PlatinumGames has the money to buy Scalebound.

So basically: 

Nintendo, just buy Platinum. 



thismeintiel said:

Or maybe they figured no one would bother picking it up.  And what I have heard is that Platinum failed to deliver because MS put ridiculous demands on them for the game, including changing the original premise and focusing on multiplayer, while not giving them anymore funding to do so.  I also doubt MS will let someone else finish what they have with Scalebound.  If it didn't interest you before, then them continuing to go in the direction MS wanted it to go wouldn't please you.  It also wouldn't be called Scalebound, anymore if Nintendo or Platinum picked up the trademark.

I would be incredibly suprised if a major corporations like MS simply forgot to renew the naming rights. If anything they probably dont care for the name and didnt see it worth the investment in renewing it. Because money.

Also what you mentioned is nothing more than speculation. So is mine but im trying to be real here.

Strange that MS didnt put massive deadlines and forced online with Crackdown 3 and just about every other 1st party IP thats in the works. Thats why i dont believe those excuses. That just sounds like people who dont like MS so its always there fault.

Its more likely MS was paying Platinum Games alot of money and Platinum had nothing to show for it over the years its been in development, and what we saw, the game was a mess. That would piss off any major corporation. Platinum was rumoured to be working on multiple projects at the time which is possibly why they didn't meet the games dead lines.