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RolStoppable said:
Acevil said:
I remember when someone on this site said "It will do amazing regardless" and "we aren't the customers for this device". Looks like Customers for this device are in another castle.

Playing the bias card only makes sense when the complaints are coming from people who wouldn't buy the product regardless of what it is. But the criticism toward this product very visibly included a lot of PlayStation fans.

As someone who considers himself playstation fan, and was critical of it. I am glad it did poorly, but I really disliked the notion, that I was never the customer for this device to begin with.  



 

I wanted one, until i saw the game list.



While I love Sony and I've purchased every console they've ever made at least once (sometimes multiple times for myself and as gifts), I love taking every rare opportunity to make fun of their missteps, I'm not going to do that this time.
The PS1 classic never really stood a chance. Unlike 2D consoles, early 3D gaming had aged horrifically. No matter what games were in the library, you'd have a collection of games that were potentially incredible and innovative at the time but are vomit inducing by today's standards. Plus, while there is a but of 90s nostalgia, a lot of people just don't feel the same connection to PS1 games as they do to games from the 8-Bit and 16-Bit era. There was just increasingly more and more distractions at that time. Video games were just part of people's childhood and not the focus.

So why even make a PS1 classic?

Looking at all of the money Nintendo was raking in, it looks like a "no brainer" on paper. Could it have been executed better? Most definitely. You just don't have a lot of people willing to fork out money to play offline games with polygons so low, you can count them. Not when even below mediocre games today absolutely trounce some of the best games from that era.

For the record, I have absolutely no desire for an N64 Classic Mini, either. My fingers ache just thinking about it.



RolStoppable said:
Acevil said:
I remember when someone on this site said "It will do amazing regardless" and "we aren't the customers for this device". Looks like Customers for this device are in another castle.

Playing the bias card only makes sense when the complaints are coming from people who wouldn't buy the product regardless of what it is. But the criticism toward this product very visibly included a lot of PlayStation fans.

Would be hard to see people defending the product =p



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

I mean, the second the game list was released I was off board, but it just snowballed from there. Hopefully Sony listens and actually gives a shit with a revision. With Dualshocks, and you know...good games that are definitive of the PS1 library.



Some of the PS1 games I wouldn't mind playing again. However, there are better emulators out there.



Pretty much. It was handled awfully and seemed rushed. For something I figured was a sure fire thing, they sure botched it quite a bit.



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twintail said:
Medisti said:

Can you elaborate on that? Don't just say it's inaccurate and then change topics. I want to know why it's inaccurate.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-classic-ot-also-emulates-90s-europeans-envy-toward-us-products.84708/page-11#post-15908806

Yes it was already posted, uses doctored footage and false equivalency(SNES classic is using newer version of pcsx). We know with some tweaking and updates the pa classic will operate better

https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-classic-ot-also-emulates-90s-europeans-envy-toward-us-products.84708/page-11#post-15910336

It had its own thread. Dark1x (Digital Foundry) came into the thread and said that footage is not accurate.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-classic-ot-also-emulates-90s-europeans-envy-toward-us-products.84708/page-11#post-15915036

Except as pointed out, the video on the right is not how it looks when running on a PS classic. So it’s not a proper comparison video.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-classic-ot-also-emulates-90s-europeans-envy-toward-us-products.84708/page-11#post-15917689

Sure, yet the point still stands that even on default settings what is shown on the right is not how it is on an unmotified PS classic (mine does not perform like that and even DF retro host says it wasn’t like that).

Thanks! I can't just take people at their word without evidence. This will do nicely. :P



DonFerrari said:
Acevil said:
I remember when someone on this site said "It will do amazing regardless" and "we aren't the customers for this device". Looks like Customers for this device are in another castle.

Perhaps the customer base is in another galaxy or dimension =p

manuelogando40 said:

What a sad damage control. 

What damage control when I acknowledge that the system is among the biggest fails together with things no one even remember?

At least LABO sold over 1.5 million.



Shiken said:
Agente42 said:



The psone games have not aged well, the games of nes and snes have a nostalgic aura. Psmini is not a good emulator, nes and snes mini is a good emulator and brings the feel of the classic 8 and 16 bit era. Finally, the arcade games that reflect on the NES and SNES games have a nostalgia factor that much of the Psone library does not share.

Sure, lets just ignore the fact that there are a ton of better games they could have chosen to give us.  I am sure that had nothing to do with it.

 

/s

My older post

 

I think Fifth Generation games have aged poorly compared to the third and fourth generation. In addition, the nostalgia factor of the NES generation is very large and was a very important console for an industry that has been renovated due to it. Despite having sold less than PSone, the NES has a bigger story importance by really boosting the gaming market, while PSone has taken a lot more advantage of the incredible distribution network that Sony had to reach the global market, which already was thirsty for video games, just look at the number of NES clones that existed everywhere. These factors have to be considered, in addition the product of Nintendo is much more well done than that of Sony.