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curl-6 said:

So if Mario + Rabbids doesn't count, what about games like Astral Chain and Daemon ex Machina, that are Nintendo published but third party developed?

The biggest complication I've found with this thread is how aggressive Nintendo has been as a publisher.  It's impossible not to be arbitrary at times, but as a rule, I try to look at the nature of the developer, the nature of the relationship with Nintendo, and the IP's history.  

For the purposes of this thread, I am inclined to accept both as third party since they were made by Platinum Games and Marvelous, which are both fully independent developers.  It's something we could re-assess if there's strong feelings about it here, or if it comes out that those studios were simply developing on contract for Nintendo.  In other words, I currently see it as being more like Square Enix and Octopath Traveler rather than Koei Tecmo and Smash.



DreadPirateRoberts said:
curl-6 said:

So if Mario + Rabbids doesn't count, what about games like Astral Chain and Daemon ex Machina, that are Nintendo published but third party developed?

The biggest complication I've found with this thread is how aggressive Nintendo has been as a publisher.  It's impossible not to be arbitrary at times, but as a rule, I try to look at the nature of the developer, the nature of the relationship with Nintendo, and the IP's history.  

For the purposes of this thread, I am inclined to accept both as third party since they were made by Platinum Games and Marvelous, which are both fully independent developers.  It's something we could re-assess if there's strong feelings about it here, or if it comes out that those studios were simply developing on contract for Nintendo.  In other words, I currently see it as being more like Square Enix and Octopath Traveler rather than Koei Tecmo and Smash.

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DreadPirateRoberts said:
curl-6 said:

So if Mario + Rabbids doesn't count, what about games like Astral Chain and Daemon ex Machina, that are Nintendo published but third party developed?

The biggest complication I've found with this thread is how aggressive Nintendo has been as a publisher.  It's impossible not to be arbitrary at times, but as a rule, I try to look at the nature of the developer, the nature of the relationship with Nintendo, and the IP's history.  

For the purposes of this thread, I am inclined to accept both as third party since they were made by Platinum Games and Marvelous, which are both fully independent developers.  It's something we could re-assess if there's strong feelings about it here, or if it comes out that those studios were simply developing on contract for Nintendo.  In other words, I currently see it as being more like Square Enix and Octopath Traveler rather than Koei Tecmo and Smash.

The most consistent method is to look at the fineprint of the games on Nintendo's official websites or on the eShop. Whenever a game has a copyright or trademark notice that lists Nintendo, then Nintendo has control over which platforms the game can appear on. So determining first party is basically the question if a game can/will appear on a non-Nintendo platform. After a game is out, people can easily find copyright/trademark information in the games themselves, namely the title screen or leading up to it.

Astral Chain is copyrighted by Nintendo, Daemon X Machina is not. So Astral Chain isn't really any different to Super Mario Odyssey while Daemon X Machina has a legitimate chance to get ported like Octopath Traveler.

Jupiter is a company that has developed and published a multitude of Picross games on Nintendo's eShops, but since Picross is officially a Nintendo brand, none of those games will appear on other platforms, nor would an entirely new Picross game be developed for a non-Nintendo platform (unless Nintendo themselves greenlights a version for smart devices).

A recent example that is confusing for people is Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3. While nobody has a problem to recognize Spiderman on the PS4 as a Sony game (Spiderman IP is owned by Marvel, game is developed by independent Insomniac Games, copyright for the game itself is owned by Sony), apparently the same is too farfetched for Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 (the various character IPs are owned by Marvel, game is developed by independent Koei-Tecmo, copyright for the game itself is owned by Nintendo). In both cases the console manufacturers have the copyright for the games because they are the ones who funded the development and attained the rights of the Marvel license.



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Veknoid_Outcast said:

June:

Prime World Defenders (F2P)
Contra Anniversary Collection
Crypt of the NecroDancer
Oceanhorn: Monster of Uncharted Seas
Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night

I'm late for July!

Xeodrifter
Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden
Streets of Rogue
Blazing Chrome
Super Mutant Alien Assault
Hyperlight Ultimate
Space War Arena



Veknoid_Outcast said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

June:

Prime World Defenders (F2P)
Contra Anniversary Collection
Crypt of the NecroDancer
Oceanhorn: Monster of Uncharted Seas
Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night

I'm late for July!

Xeodrifter
Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden
Streets of Rogue
Blazing Chrome
Super Mutant Alien Assault
Hyperlight Ultimate
Space War Arena

Loved Xeodrifter so much, was considering it heavily since it was on sale for just 99c but I tried to resist, I've finished that game 100% on the Vita a few years ago and while it's awesome for how it sets out to do one thing, and that's a very basic but very good metroid clone when the dust settles I don't think I would have ever replayed it again if I bought it, if you haven't started it yet and do look at it for its fairly simple graphics, do give it a little time to see what it has on offer, really there is at least 5-10 hours of good metroid fun to be had in that 99c title.



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You're just in time. I'll post the update tomorrow.



Ganoncrotch said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

I'm late for July!

Xeodrifter
Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden
Streets of Rogue
Blazing Chrome
Super Mutant Alien Assault
Hyperlight Ultimate
Space War Arena

Loved Xeodrifter so much, was considering it heavily since it was on sale for just 99c but I tried to resist, I've finished that game 100% on the Vita a few years ago and while it's awesome for how it sets out to do one thing, and that's a very basic but very good metroid clone when the dust settles I don't think I would have ever replayed it again if I bought it, if you haven't started it yet and do look at it for its fairly simple graphics, do give it a little time to see what it has on offer, really there is at least 5-10 hours of good metroid fun to be had in that 99c title.

That's a coincidence! I finished it on Vita, too, but couldn't resist getting it again at that low price :)



Veknoid_Outcast said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Loved Xeodrifter so much, was considering it heavily since it was on sale for just 99c but I tried to resist, I've finished that game 100% on the Vita a few years ago and while it's awesome for how it sets out to do one thing, and that's a very basic but very good metroid clone when the dust settles I don't think I would have ever replayed it again if I bought it, if you haven't started it yet and do look at it for its fairly simple graphics, do give it a little time to see what it has on offer, really there is at least 5-10 hours of good metroid fun to be had in that 99c title.

That's a coincidence! I finished it on Vita, too, but couldn't resist getting it again at that low price :)

this website tells me it was a while ago.... don't tempt me again !!

But awesome that you enjoyed before as well, really love little games like that, they set out to do something and achieve it with flying colours, that game in the US shop that you see every now and again for 20c called No-Thing, that's a game where you run down along beams just pressing left or right to not run off the track as a voice tells you a story ... it's a really strange title and is rock hard to get passed the stages... . or even figure out what is going on for the first 10 or so deaths, but for the price it's just amazing imo. Definitely worth the price of a coin that you might think twice about if you dropped it somewhere awkward to pick it back up lol



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