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Voltaire on 01 February 2010
jarrod said:
Voltaire said:
jarrod said:
I think it's going to do substantially better than the recent Retroids for 2 reasons...

1) the Japanese will actually buy it
2) Nintendo will actually advertise it


...2m+ worldwide is a lock imo. Might even pass 3m depending on the quality of the game.

Japan never got into Super Metroid either though. Sure itll sell better because its sourced is Team Ninja, and it isnt in first person, but will it be a substancial difference? I doubt it.

Super Metroid sold over 600k in Japan, the same as Twilight Princess.  

Im sorry, im not sure what i was thinking. Super MEtroid sold just over 710k in JPN. Metroid Fusion, on the other hand, sold less than 13k. And that could be a more accurate representation of the sentiment on the Metroid series in Japan. Its much more recent after all. 

 http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=3781&region=All




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Slimebeast on 01 February 2010
Demotruk said:
Slimebeast said:
Demotruk said:
I don't understand, I'm not being too strict about the definition. There's no particular quality that decides whether something is mainstream or not other than it's reach. You could call any game that sells 2-3 million somewhat mainstream, and something that sells 1-2 million would border on it (likely most of it's buyers would be core but not enthusiasts).

But if that's the case, and knowing that each Metroid Prime sold 1-2 mill (the first Prime even 2.8 mill), then why even ask the question in the OP: "will Metroid Other M be the Metroid to sell to mainstream?"

Obviously he means will it sell bigger than that. It's a relative term. I would say the other Metroids border on mainstream, but they're not that mainstream. Mainstream wouldn't mean the demographic that buys Call of Duty in particular though, it could sell to completely different people and still be 'mainstream'.

Ok I understand then.

So bottom line is that the OP made it complicated by his choice of words. He could have named the thread "will Metroid Other M be the most successful Metroid?" or "will Metroid Other M be a big hit?" lol.



Voltaire on 01 February 2010
Slimebeast said:
Demotruk said:
Slimebeast said:
Demotruk said:
I don't understand, I'm not being too strict about the definition. There's no particular quality that decides whether something is mainstream or not other than it's reach. You could call any game that sells 2-3 million somewhat mainstream, and something that sells 1-2 million would border on it (likely most of it's buyers would be core but not enthusiasts).

But if that's the case, and knowing that each Metroid Prime sold 1-2 mill (the first Prime even 2.8 mill), then why even ask the question in the OP: "will Metroid Other M be the Metroid to sell to mainstream?"

Obviously he means will it sell bigger than that. It's a relative term. I would say the other Metroids border on mainstream, but they're not that mainstream. Mainstream wouldn't mean the demographic that buys Call of Duty in particular though, it could sell to completely different people and still be 'mainstream'.

Ok I understand then.

So bottom line is that the OP made it complicated by his choice of words. He could have named the thread "will Metroid Other M be the most successful Metroid?" or "will Metroid Other M be a big hit?" lol.

I clarified this in the last page, but you must have missed it. I edited the OP to include my definition of "mainstream" and how it relates to this thread.




Bluelava on 01 February 2010

Metroid has never been a massive seller on any system.

If they want it sell to mainstream gamers...then they better put out the size of ad campaign they usually reserve for the likes of Mario, Wii Fit and Wii Sports.



stimpi13 on 01 February 2010

Sell more in the West that is obvious .... I think that if I caught the 2 million



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Slimebeast on 01 February 2010
Voltaire said:
Slimebeast said:
Demotruk said:
Slimebeast said:
Demotruk said:
I don't understand, I'm not being too strict about the definition. There's no particular quality that decides whether something is mainstream or not other than it's reach. You could call any game that sells 2-3 million somewhat mainstream, and something that sells 1-2 million would border on it (likely most of it's buyers would be core but not enthusiasts).

But if that's the case, and knowing that each Metroid Prime sold 1-2 mill (the first Prime even 2.8 mill), then why even ask the question in the OP: "will Metroid Other M be the Metroid to sell to mainstream?"

Obviously he means will it sell bigger than that. It's a relative term. I would say the other Metroids border on mainstream, but they're not that mainstream. Mainstream wouldn't mean the demographic that buys Call of Duty in particular though, it could sell to completely different people and still be 'mainstream'.

Ok I understand then.

So bottom line is that the OP made it complicated by his choice of words. He could have named the thread "will Metroid Other M be the most successful Metroid?" or "will Metroid Other M be a big hit?" lol.

I clarified this in the last page, but you must have missed it. I edited the OP to include my definition of "mainstream" and how it relates to this thread.

Yeah I missed it. I think it's interesting.

Most people here seem to think Metroid Other M won't reach the mainstream gamers, and won't sell more than ~1.5 mill. I think I agree.



jarrod on 01 February 2010
retroking1981 said:
Voltaire said:

It may seem that Nintendo is certainly trying to make MOM approachable in at least the Japanese market. By using tradition anime-esque art style and hiring the hand of a well known Japanese developer to help make the game, i think its reasonable for one to assume that Nintendo is trying to make Metroid a sellable franchise in Japan. 

But what about the rest of the world? MP3 certainly eased the difficulty and added optional hints (more so than past Prime games), and with MOM focus on story and cinematics, the game could be sold to the mainstream western market.

P.S. By mainstream i dont mean "casual".


no i dont think it'll sell to mainstream gamers. i think it'll only sell to metroid/team ninja fans.

i think it'll sell about 1m - 1.5m WW

i also think it wont be a huge hit critically, prob average a 85 on gamerankings/metacritic

No way, it's going to do like twice that.  Nintendo was pushing Other M harder than about any other game at E3 2009 and even flew in Sakamoto (SPD1 head, Metroid director) and Hayoshi (Team Ninja head) to do interviews... I think they're going to push it bigtime.

And I bet it does over 90 on meta.  People are thinking too small and comparing the game to the Retroids, it's more like a series reset...



retroking1981 on 01 February 2010
jarrod said:
retroking1981 said:
Voltaire said:

It may seem that Nintendo is certainly trying to make MOM approachable in at least the Japanese market. By using tradition anime-esque art style and hiring the hand of a well known Japanese developer to help make the game, i think its reasonable for one to assume that Nintendo is trying to make Metroid a sellable franchise in Japan. 

But what about the rest of the world? MP3 certainly eased the difficulty and added optional hints (more so than past Prime games), and with MOM focus on story and cinematics, the game could be sold to the mainstream western market.

P.S. By mainstream i dont mean "casual".


no i dont think it'll sell to mainstream gamers. i think it'll only sell to metroid/team ninja fans.

i think it'll sell about 1m - 1.5m WW

i also think it wont be a huge hit critically, prob average a 85 on gamerankings/metacritic

No way, it's going to do like twice that.  Nintendo was pushing Other M harder than about any other game at E3 2009 and even flew in Sakamoto (SPD1 head, Metroid director) and Hayoshi (Team Ninja head) to do interviews... I think they're going to push it bigtime.

And I bet it does over 90 on meta.  People are thinking too small and comparing the game to the Retroids, it's more like a series reset...


i hope your right but i just cant see it.

i think most reviewers tend to take snazzy graphics into account to much, i think there's a fair few wii games that would have averaged over 90 instead of being in the 80s if they were in HD - no more heroes 2 and TvsCapcom spring to mind that came out this month. unfortunately i think a lot of gamers tend to buy into this too. i fear they'll be to busy playing HD game X to care about a new wii game.

like i said i hope your right, it looks good from what we've seen and has a lot of talent behind it.

on a side note, is there any other series thats had 2 successful series resets? or is this the first to try it?



Demotruk on 01 February 2010

Metroid Prime wasn't a series reset, it was pretty close to a direct transition of 2D -> 3D.

This is the first time they're focusing on things never focussed upon in Metroid before, except with those unmemorable little cut scenes in Fusion.



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Mr Khan on 01 February 2010

Odd that Fusion did so poorly in Japan, i was under the impression that they had recieved it rather well, given how it humanized Samus and all.



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