By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Sales - Are SE reconsidering DQX for the PS3?

saicho on 01 February 2010

^
DQ7 was the best selling DQ until DQ9... how could you miss it?

I'm still baffled by the statement that DQ is a handheld juggernaut that is frequently mistaken for a console juggernaut. Although many have proved the statement wrong, I'm interested to know how one came to that conclusion at the first place.



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

Around the Network
jarrod on 01 February 2010
Kasz216 said:
jarrod said:
Kasz216 said:
jarrod said:
dolemit3 said:
Soriku said:
dolemit3 said:
I wouldn't be so sure about DQX selling 3 million + on Wii after seeing that Monster Hunter 3 is still struggling to sell 1 million.


How can you compare a console MH and DQ at all...

They are both handheld juggernauts that are frequently mistaken for console juggernauts.

People said that about New Super Mario Bros.  Look what happened.

DQX will do over 3.5m.  Swords sold as well as the PS2 DQ spinoffs (Torneko 3, Yangus), I wouldn't expect the mainline to deviate much.

3.5 million seems... high.

Though the "handheld juggernaught" thing is a laugh.

 

Only 3 Dragon Quest games out of 9 have done 3.5 million or over.  Sales of Dragon Quest games seem very much to be quality based.

 

Those 3 of 9 were the last 3 installments though.  A Dragon Quest hasn't sold under 3.5m in well over a decade, I don't expect Wii to break that trend.

DQX is basically Dragon Quest "coming home" again.  It's going to be HUGE, with a big push towards nostalgia.  I think it'll be comparable to what Mario went through in terms of audience and pull, though not quite as big.

Dragon Quest 7 did over 3.5?

I have them as DQ 9, DQ 8 and DW3.

I forgot about DQ3!  Here are total shipments for the "million shipping" DQs in Japan, I've bolded the 3.5m+ sellers...

Main series

  • Dragon Quest (FC) 1,500,000
  • Dragon Quest II (FC) 2,410,000
  • Dragon Quest III (FC) 3,770,000
  • Dragon Quest IV (FC) 3,040,000
  • Dragon Quest V (SFC) 2,790,000
  • Dragon Quest VI (SFC) 3,190,000
  • Dragon Quest VII (PS) 4,140,000
  • Dragon Quest VIII (PS2) 3,680,000
  • Dragon Quest IX (DS) 4,150,000+

Remakes

  • Dragon Quest I+II (SFC) 1,150,000
  • Dragon Quest III (SFC) 1,360,000
  • Dragon Quest IV (SFC) 1,210,000
  • Dragon Quest V (PS2) 1,710,000
  • Dragon Quest IV (DS) 1,220,000
  • Dragon Quest V (DS) 1,200,000
  • Dragon Quest VI (DS) 1,000,000+

Spinoffs

  • Dragon Quest Monsters (GB) 2,350,000
  • Dragon Quest Monsters 2 (Journey of Lucia) (GB) 1,570,000
  • Dragon Quest Monsters JOKER (DS) 1,500,000

 

 



jarrod on 01 February 2010
Kasz216 said:


Knew DQ was bigger then FF, but not one and a half times bigger.  Thought it was more head to head then that.

Yep.  Potentially, DQX could sell double what FFXIII did in Japan.  Actually, I'd say it probably will.

Here's the million shipping FFs for comparison...

Mainline

  • Final Fantasy III (FC) 1,400,000
  • Final Fantasy IV (SFC) 1,430,000
  • Final Fantasy V (SFC) 2,450,000
  • Final Fantasy VI (SFC) 2,550,000
  • Final Fantasy VII (PS) 4,000,000
  • Final Fantasy VIII (PS) 3,640,000
  • Final Fantasy IX (PS) 2,790,000
  • Final Fantasy X (PS2) 3,100,000
  • Final Fantasy X-2 (PS2) 2,410,000
  • Final Fantasy XII (PS2) 2,410,000
  • Final Fantasy XIII (PS3) 1,860,000+

Remakes

  • Final Fantasy III (DS) 1,100,000

Spinoffs

  • Final Fantasy Tactics (PS) 1,380,000
  • Chocobo Mystery Dungeon (PS) 1,140,000


alfredofroylan on 01 February 2010

To be honest if Square is going to reconsidering a plataform for Dragon Quest X, it could be either the Nintendo DS or the PSP.



jarrod on 01 February 2010
alfredofroylan said:
To be honest if Square is going to reconsidering a plataform for Dragon Quest X, it could be either the Nintendo DS or the PSP.

Why PSP?  None of their PSP games have sold as well as MH3. :P



Around the Network
jammy2211 on 01 February 2010
saicho said:
jammy2211 said:
saicho said:
Hero_time88 said:

Can't you distinguish PR-talk? Right now there are probably 1.9 million units shipped, and reaching 2 million pretty much depends on if they ship new units or if it get's "the best edition" later this year.

There are still thousand of used copy's sold a week, sales which you of course don't see in charts.

Right now it doesn't look like FFXIII will reach 2 mil without re-release.

Also, not sure why the user game sales are mentioned. It happens to every game in Japan and it doesn't count as sales.

jammy2211 said:
It'd make sense, porting a game 'up' from the Wii and giving it a HD brush isn't exactly hard or expensive. It wouldn't typically happen as the game would look 'bad' compared to HD-only games, but for an art style such as DQX's it wouldn't really be noticeable.

It won't happen if Nintendo are as involved on this as we've been lead to believe though. Shame really :(.

if this is the case, why do we not see more games being ported up since it would be easy and quick additional cash for the publishers?

 For the reason I put in the post you quoted me on lol.

let me rephrase the question then... why do we not see more games with DQ art style to be ported up especially the ones that didn't sell that well on Wii?

To be honest I can't think of many that would suit such a port - but the reason is the few games I can think that are suitable (Muramasa... erm.. yeah) are low budget and the developer/studio can't afford the investment in buying a HD dev kit, PS3 developers etc. It's finally happend with No More Heroes now it has been quite successful for Marvelous. 

 But most games like that can't justify the expense of porting 'up' as it's a strain on time, money and resources. For DQX it's an extra 500k - 1 million units of sales...



Hisiru on 01 February 2010
jarrod said:
Kasz216 said:


Knew DQ was bigger then FF, but not one and a half times bigger.  Thought it was more head to head then that.

Yep.  Potentially, DQX could sell double what FFXIII did in Japan.  Actually, I'd say it probably will.

Here's the million shipping FFs for comparison...

Mainline

  • Final Fantasy III (FC) 1,400,000
  • Final Fantasy IV (SFC) 1,430,000
  • Final Fantasy V (SFC) 2,450,000
  • Final Fantasy VI (SFC) 2,550,000
  • Final Fantasy VII (PS) 4,000,000
  • Final Fantasy VIII (PS) 3,640,000
  • Final Fantasy IX (PS) 2,790,000
  • Final Fantasy X (PS2) 3,100,000
  • Final Fantasy X-2 (PS2) 2,410,000
  • Final Fantasy XII (PS2) 2,410,000
  • Final Fantasy XIII (PS3) 1,860,000+

Remakes

  • Final Fantasy III (DS) 1,100,000

Spinoffs

  • Final Fantasy Tactics (PS) 1,380,000
  • Chocobo Mystery Dungeon (PS) 1,140,000

No data for FF1, FF2 and FFIV (DS)?



jarrod on 01 February 2010
Hisiru said:

No data for FF1, FF2 and FFIV (DS)?

Under a million, so they're not in the (public) YSO archive.



Kenryoku_Maxis on 01 February 2010

Frankly, I don't think many people here have much knowledge on the Dragon Quest series so that's why you guys hare 'pessimistic' about it. As someone who has been following it for years, its easy to guage how it'll do. No matter what system the game goes to, the Japanese fanbase will follow. And the Japanese fanbase likes the Wii the most right now, eventhough Wii sales have been lukewarm. You know why that is? Because there's lukewarm support from third parties.

You've seen what happens, even in Japan, when a good game like New Super Mario Bros comes out over there. They go through the same ridiculous numbers we do in the west, with thousands of people buying the game a week (up to nearly 1/3 the Japanese Wii userbase already owning the game). What makes you think Dragon Quest X won't sell similarly? Its easily a game Japan wants, on a popular (and cheap) console and being hyped for multiple years.

It'll sell just fine. At least near the numbers of DQVIII (3.6m) if not more. The real issue is in the west and whether or not SquareEnix is going to actually try to advertise DQIX enough to make it popular, thereby opening a hype window for DQX so it can sell in the future. There's 4 unreleased Dragon Quest titles coming to the west (Dragon Quest IV DS, Dragon Quest IX, Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 and Dragon Quest X) and SquareEnix once again has the chance to start a marketing push to make those games sell better. Or they can do nothing as they have been and watch them fail miserably like the last few entries.  If SquareEnix would put even 1/4 the marketing into the DQ games as they do their Final Fantasy titles, they could probably work up to making a Million on each Dragon Quest title in the west.  As it stands now, they're looking at barely making 10,000 in sales on DQIX.



Six upcoming games you should look into:

 

  

jarrod on 01 February 2010

Nintendo's going to co-promote DQIX in the west, so I think it'll probably do well. Also worth pointing out that DQVIII shipped 2m units in the west (1.2m EU, 800k NA), so the franchise has at least seen some improvement (even though the DS remakes all kinda fizzled).

Also, going back to MH3, Capcom just updated shipment figures and it somehow shipped another 50k the last quarter. Failure indeed! ;)