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Fumanchu said:
Jeez wasn't that nice of Sony just "offering" to publish the game in Europe and I guess it was Namco Bandai that insisted that the other completed 'gold' versions of the game just sit there. Give me a break what do you want a smoking gun??

Evidence would be nice.



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bobobologna said:
Fumanchu said:
Jeez wasn't that nice of Sony just "offering" to publish the game in Europe and I guess it was Namco Bandai that insisted that the other completed 'gold' versions of the game just sit there. Give me a break what do you want a smoking gun??

Evidence would be nice.

I don't know who you think I am, but I am neither a party to Sony or Atari, nor am I privy to their contractural litigation terms of agreements. 

Do you have the signed contract pages of Microsoft securing time-exclusivity periods for Tales of Vesperia or Star Ocean?? 



Fumanchu said:
bobobologna said:
Fumanchu said:
Jeez wasn't that nice of Sony just "offering" to publish the game in Europe and I guess it was Namco Bandai that insisted that the other completed 'gold' versions of the game just sit there. Give me a break what do you want a smoking gun??

Evidence would be nice.

I don't know who you think I am, but I am neither a party to Sony or Atari, nor am I privy to their contractural litigation terms of agreements. 

Do you have the signed contract pages of Microsoft securing time-exclusivity periods for Tales of Vesperia or Star Ocean?? 

Um, when did I accuse Microsoft of paying for timed exclusive rights for those games?

However, since you asked so nicely:  http://kotaku.com/5360375/japanese-developer-microsoft-making-ps3-development-easier-%5Bupdate%5D

It's not solid evidence.  And I'll never accuse Microsoft of moneyhatting for those exclusives (and I don't think I ever have).  But it does offer some insight into something Microsoft could have possibly done to get Japanese developers to make so many XBox360 timed exclusives.



Ajescent said:
Sony? Ghostbusters? That never happened, nope...never.
Though then again, once in a while is more acceptable than a dime a dozen...yay or nay?

The Ghostbusters franchise is owned by Sony. They didn't have to let it go multiplat by licensing it out but they did and its nothing like what microsoft has been doing. But hey if Microsoft want to keep throwing money at 3rd party developers instead of building there own first and second party studios then thats there stupid moves.



geddesmond2 said:
Ajescent said:
Sony? Ghostbusters? That never happened, nope...never.
Though then again, once in a while is more acceptable than a dime a dozen...yay or nay?

The Ghostbusters franchise is owned by Sony. They didn't have to let it go multiplat by licensing it out but they did and its nothing like what microsoft has been doing. But hey if Microsoft want to keep throwing money at 3rd party developers instead of building there own first and second party studios then thats there stupid moves.

The truth of the matter is Sony has no right to call out Microsoft on a strategy that Sony did at every opprotunity in the ps1/2 days........its like someone telling you not to drink when you have multiple videos of them getting hammered in the past and sometimes drink to this day.....its hypocrisy at its finest.



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I complained a lot about Sony doing just that during the first two playstations

well, it's good to hear that they will finally try to make killer apps themselves.



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bobobologna said:
Fumanchu said:
bobobologna said:
Fumanchu said:
Jeez wasn't that nice of Sony just "offering" to publish the game in Europe and I guess it was Namco Bandai that insisted that the other completed 'gold' versions of the game just sit there. Give me a break what do you want a smoking gun??

Evidence would be nice.

I don't know who you think I am, but I am neither a party to Sony or Atari, nor am I privy to their contractural litigation terms of agreements. 

Do you have the signed contract pages of Microsoft securing time-exclusivity periods for Tales of Vesperia or Star Ocean?? 

Um, when did I accuse Microsoft of paying for timed exclusive rights for those games?

However, since you asked so nicely:  http://kotaku.com/5360375/japanese-developer-microsoft-making-ps3-development-easier-%5Bupdate%5D

It's not solid evidence.  And I'll never accuse Microsoft of moneyhatting for those exclusives (and I don't think I ever have).  But it does offer some insight into something Microsoft could have possibly done to get Japanese developers to make so many XBox360 timed exclusives.

Well that reads like Sony and the developers are just as much to blame as Microsoft's supporting funds.  Sony made their console hard to develop for and the developers get the support needed to make the game. 

The point was that there is no freely available clear-cut evidence that shows any publisher purchasing timed-exclusivity periods.  Though I think some of them are fairly obvious.



jesus kung fu magic said:

The truth of the matter is Sony has no right to call out Microsoft on a strategy that Sony did at every opprotunity in the ps1/2 days........its like someone telling you not to drink when you have multiple videos of them getting hammered in the past and sometimes drink to this day.....its hypocrisy at its finest.

If Microsft acted the way Sony did during the PS1/PS2 days in the OS or Office software market they would be slapped with multiple billion dollar fines so fast it'd make their heads spin. Its definately pot/kettle territory and I generally say they are as bad as each other.



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jesus kung fu magic said:
geddesmond2 said:
Ajescent said:
Sony? Ghostbusters? That never happened, nope...never.
Though then again, once in a while is more acceptable than a dime a dozen...yay or nay?

The Ghostbusters franchise is owned by Sony. They didn't have to let it go multiplat by licensing it out but they did and its nothing like what microsoft has been doing. But hey if Microsoft want to keep throwing money at 3rd party developers instead of building there own first and second party studios then thats there stupid moves.

The truth of the matter is Sony has no right to call out Microsoft on a strategy that Sony did at every opprotunity in the ps1/2 days........its like someone telling you not to drink when you have multiple videos of them getting hammered in the past and sometimes drink to this day.....its hypocrisy at its finest.

But Sony now, is not Sony 5 years ago. Its also not the same Sony that well have in 5 years. Employees change, time change and companies evolve. Its not hypocrisy as long as they dont do it now. Im not being hypocrit if I suggest to someone to stop smoking even if I was smoking 5 years ago. The fact is that today, I dont smoke, and ive learned that its really bad habit. Sincerely I dont know if they do it or not, but if they do, then yes the company as a whole is being hypocrit. But you cannot base your judgment on a practice they were doing 5 years ago if they dont do it anymore.



Twistedpixel said:
jesus kung fu magic said:

The truth of the matter is Sony has no right to call out Microsoft on a strategy that Sony did at every opprotunity in the ps1/2 days........its like someone telling you not to drink when you have multiple videos of them getting hammered in the past and sometimes drink to this day.....its hypocrisy at its finest.

If Microsft acted the way Sony did during the PS1/PS2 days in the OS or Office software market they would be slapped with multiple billion dollar fines so fast it'd make their heads spin. Its definately pot/kettle territory and I generally say they are as bad as each other.

Im not ripping on this strategy nor do I think its a bad thing.....my problem is that sony is talking about this strategy as if they are too good for it when they recently did this time and time again the last gen and the one before that.



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