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Is Natal the 360s last hope?

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aleusianacht88 said:
DarkisWR said:
aleusianacht88 said:
d21lewis said:
So what are you getting at, longname-ington?

I'd love to debate, but I gotta help my kid with her homework. I shall return!

Nothing really, I just made a comment and some people took it to heart.


Nothing really?

 

It was uncalled for and served no point in this topic's discussion. If Folks can get bans for saying ''I hate PS3'' surely your comment merits one.

 

 

As for topic....9million console lead in North America..neck and neck in EU...japan doesn't matter*really it doesn't*

 

Do not see how the 360 is ''Dying''. #60 has a very very strong line up this year exclusives wise...not to mention the natal.

Japan doesn't matter? are you serious? If you really think that...wow

Do any of the games we get now matter in japan?...hmmm...let me see....nope..not really...More and more dev. is coming out of EU/NA..unless you see the next say Killzone and Gears made with the japan audince in mind.

Also in refernce to my comment...can't tote the 360 is just being ''smashed'' by ps3....when neck neck in eu and na is just 360land.

 

Japan just isnt that console based anymore..maybe next gen it will change but so far this gen no.



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aleusianacht88 said:
kiefer23 said:
aleusianacht88 said:
youarebadatgames said:
aleusianacht88 said:
Twistedpixel said:
aleusianacht88 said:
Twistedpixel said:
aleusianacht88 said:

 

I'm not going to bother with any form of unbiased facade, I am biased and I admit it, I dislike the Xbox, I dislike many of the fans, and many of the "Exclusives" (see PC gaming) do not appeal to me. I don't like First Person Shooters, I don't like alpha male minded people who bring every debate and argument down to sexual preference and masculinity...The Xbox 360 fanbase has MANY of these types of people...also undesirables.

You know there'd be as many people who'd say that about you. Just be forewarned, you'll carry on this attitude, then the mods will notice, then you'll get banned and then it'll be a stint of bans getting ever increasingly longer before you either change alt, stop going to the site or change your ways.

I think I'm rather civil about the matter, I see no reason for me to be banned. Not everybody has to like the Xbox or the fans, and why should I not speak my mind? I'm not using profanity or offensive language.

Civil is keeping your uncivil words to yourself. You're not being civil by saying uncivil things in a civil way.

If you are not the type of person my comment was referring to then why are you getting upset? I am not hating on anybody for the console they own, I am just saying that alot of the types of people I mentioned are 360 fanboys and act as such, why do you think games like Call of Duty, Gears of War, and Halo are so popular on the 360? Why do you think every JRPG attempt on the 360 has flopped?

You're really making this more than what it really is, from the way you are talking you'd think that I just burned down your house. I'm not attacking you or anybody else personally unless you are that type of person I am talking about and if so, you might want to look into changing your ways and being a more respectful person because the people I am talking about are very uncivil and very disrespectful.

Sounds like you've been on the receiving end of one too many teabags.  Guess what, welcome to the internet/Xbox live, quit whining like a bitch or GTFO.  Emo much?

If you get all hot and bothered over a 12 year old talking shit, you might just have to...I dunno, grow a pair?  Why there's even a mute button designed just for little snots like them.  Who would have guessed.

You have me mistaken for somebody else, I barely play any FPS campaign or online...and people call my comments rude.

I think you deserve it to be honest. 34 something comments and they have all been anti-Microsoft/Xbox owners.

WELCOME TO THE SITE! We can always do with more people like you!

On Topic: Last hope? There is no need for hope yet.

I know i'm a real bastard, some people really take anti-360 comments serious. You'd think that I had just spouted off some neo nazi propaganda with the way people reacted. I have been dealing with anti-PS3 garbage since 2006.


Congratulations, your attitude will be bookmarked as a perfect example of the reason why I think PSN sucks at times, mainly due to people like you being in the Sony fanbase.  If you have nothing remotely positive to say and no interest in the 360 at all then don't bother entering threads for it.

Don't worry too much guys, this troll will disappear later in the year when the PS3 falls back to third in console sales again.



slowmo said:
aleusianacht88 said:
kiefer23 said:
aleusianacht88 said:
youarebadatgames said:
aleusianacht88 said:
Twistedpixel said:
aleusianacht88 said:
Twistedpixel said:
aleusianacht88 said:

 

I'm not going to bother with any form of unbiased facade, I am biased and I admit it, I dislike the Xbox, I dislike many of the fans, and many of the "Exclusives" (see PC gaming) do not appeal to me. I don't like First Person Shooters, I don't like alpha male minded people who bring every debate and argument down to sexual preference and masculinity...The Xbox 360 fanbase has MANY of these types of people...also undesirables.

You know there'd be as many people who'd say that about you. Just be forewarned, you'll carry on this attitude, then the mods will notice, then you'll get banned and then it'll be a stint of bans getting ever increasingly longer before you either change alt, stop going to the site or change your ways.

I think I'm rather civil about the matter, I see no reason for me to be banned. Not everybody has to like the Xbox or the fans, and why should I not speak my mind? I'm not using profanity or offensive language.

Civil is keeping your uncivil words to yourself. You're not being civil by saying uncivil things in a civil way.

If you are not the type of person my comment was referring to then why are you getting upset? I am not hating on anybody for the console they own, I am just saying that alot of the types of people I mentioned are 360 fanboys and act as such, why do you think games like Call of Duty, Gears of War, and Halo are so popular on the 360? Why do you think every JRPG attempt on the 360 has flopped?

You're really making this more than what it really is, from the way you are talking you'd think that I just burned down your house. I'm not attacking you or anybody else personally unless you are that type of person I am talking about and if so, you might want to look into changing your ways and being a more respectful person because the people I am talking about are very uncivil and very disrespectful.

Sounds like you've been on the receiving end of one too many teabags.  Guess what, welcome to the internet/Xbox live, quit whining like a bitch or GTFO.  Emo much?

If you get all hot and bothered over a 12 year old talking shit, you might just have to...I dunno, grow a pair?  Why there's even a mute button designed just for little snots like them.  Who would have guessed.

You have me mistaken for somebody else, I barely play any FPS campaign or online...and people call my comments rude.

I think you deserve it to be honest. 34 something comments and they have all been anti-Microsoft/Xbox owners.

WELCOME TO THE SITE! We can always do with more people like you!

On Topic: Last hope? There is no need for hope yet.

I know i'm a real bastard, some people really take anti-360 comments serious. You'd think that I had just spouted off some neo nazi propaganda with the way people reacted. I have been dealing with anti-PS3 garbage since 2006.


Congratulations, your attitude will be bookmarked as a perfect example of the reason why I think PSN sucks at times, mainly due to people like you being in the Sony fanbase.  If you have nothing remotely positive to say and no interest in the 360 at all then don't bother entering threads for it.

Don't worry too much guys, this troll will disappear later in the year when the PS3 falls back to third in console sales again.

 

......And you are any better? @ bolded yellow text

You're just as bad as me but on the other side, you have no right to judge.



aleusianacht88 said:
slowmo said:
aleusianacht88 said:
kiefer23 said:
aleusianacht88 said:
youarebadatgames said:
aleusianacht88 said:
Twistedpixel said:
aleusianacht88 said:
Twistedpixel said:
aleusianacht88 said:

 

I'm not going to bother with any form of unbiased facade, I am biased and I admit it, I dislike the Xbox, I dislike many of the fans, and many of the "Exclusives" (see PC gaming) do not appeal to me. I don't like First Person Shooters, I don't like alpha male minded people who bring every debate and argument down to sexual preference and masculinity...The Xbox 360 fanbase has MANY of these types of people...also undesirables.

You know there'd be as many people who'd say that about you. Just be forewarned, you'll carry on this attitude, then the mods will notice, then you'll get banned and then it'll be a stint of bans getting ever increasingly longer before you either change alt, stop going to the site or change your ways.

I think I'm rather civil about the matter, I see no reason for me to be banned. Not everybody has to like the Xbox or the fans, and why should I not speak my mind? I'm not using profanity or offensive language.

Civil is keeping your uncivil words to yourself. You're not being civil by saying uncivil things in a civil way.

If you are not the type of person my comment was referring to then why are you getting upset? I am not hating on anybody for the console they own, I am just saying that alot of the types of people I mentioned are 360 fanboys and act as such, why do you think games like Call of Duty, Gears of War, and Halo are so popular on the 360? Why do you think every JRPG attempt on the 360 has flopped?

You're really making this more than what it really is, from the way you are talking you'd think that I just burned down your house. I'm not attacking you or anybody else personally unless you are that type of person I am talking about and if so, you might want to look into changing your ways and being a more respectful person because the people I am talking about are very uncivil and very disrespectful.

Sounds like you've been on the receiving end of one too many teabags.  Guess what, welcome to the internet/Xbox live, quit whining like a bitch or GTFO.  Emo much?

If you get all hot and bothered over a 12 year old talking shit, you might just have to...I dunno, grow a pair?  Why there's even a mute button designed just for little snots like them.  Who would have guessed.

You have me mistaken for somebody else, I barely play any FPS campaign or online...and people call my comments rude.

I think you deserve it to be honest. 34 something comments and they have all been anti-Microsoft/Xbox owners.

WELCOME TO THE SITE! We can always do with more people like you!

On Topic: Last hope? There is no need for hope yet.

I know i'm a real bastard, some people really take anti-360 comments serious. You'd think that I had just spouted off some neo nazi propaganda with the way people reacted. I have been dealing with anti-PS3 garbage since 2006.


Congratulations, your attitude will be bookmarked as a perfect example of the reason why I think PSN sucks at times, mainly due to people like you being in the Sony fanbase.  If you have nothing remotely positive to say and no interest in the 360 at all then don't bother entering threads for it.

Don't worry too much guys, this troll will disappear later in the year when the PS3 falls back to third in console sales again.

 

......And you are any better? @ bolded yellow text

You're just as bad as me but on the other side, you have no right to judge.


In this case yes, you've flamed and baited an entire group of gamers with your ignorance.  I didn't over gernalise in the way you did hence the term "some".  I have every right to judge you, it's my opinion.  If you're entitled to spout such utter drivel as your opinion then I and every other user on this site has the right to comment on what you've said.  If you don't like the truth then learn to keep your biased and frankly uncivil opinion to yourself if it bothers you to have your ridiculous statements ripped to pieces and proved FUD.

I'm not on the other side at all, I own all 3 consoles but have a preference, at least I've taken the time to get a valid opinion for myself rather than reading SDF FUD and taking it as gospel.  I happen to believe what I said by the way and the 360 overtaking the PS3 in sales is at least marginally on topic unlike most of your posts.



slowmo said:
aleusianacht88 said:
slowmo said:
aleusianacht88 said:
kiefer23 said:
aleusianacht88 said:
youarebadatgames said:
aleusianacht88 said:
Twistedpixel said:
aleusianacht88 said:
Twistedpixel said:
aleusianacht88 said:

 

I'm not going to bother with any form of unbiased facade, I am biased and I admit it, I dislike the Xbox, I dislike many of the fans, and many of the "Exclusives" (see PC gaming) do not appeal to me. I don't like First Person Shooters, I don't like alpha male minded people who bring every debate and argument down to sexual preference and masculinity...The Xbox 360 fanbase has MANY of these types of people...also undesirables.

You know there'd be as many people who'd say that about you. Just be forewarned, you'll carry on this attitude, then the mods will notice, then you'll get banned and then it'll be a stint of bans getting ever increasingly longer before you either change alt, stop going to the site or change your ways.

I think I'm rather civil about the matter, I see no reason for me to be banned. Not everybody has to like the Xbox or the fans, and why should I not speak my mind? I'm not using profanity or offensive language.

Civil is keeping your uncivil words to yourself. You're not being civil by saying uncivil things in a civil way.

If you are not the type of person my comment was referring to then why are you getting upset? I am not hating on anybody for the console they own, I am just saying that alot of the types of people I mentioned are 360 fanboys and act as such, why do you think games like Call of Duty, Gears of War, and Halo are so popular on the 360? Why do you think every JRPG attempt on the 360 has flopped?

You're really making this more than what it really is, from the way you are talking you'd think that I just burned down your house. I'm not attacking you or anybody else personally unless you are that type of person I am talking about and if so, you might want to look into changing your ways and being a more respectful person because the people I am talking about are very uncivil and very disrespectful.

Sounds like you've been on the receiving end of one too many teabags.  Guess what, welcome to the internet/Xbox live, quit whining like a bitch or GTFO.  Emo much?

If you get all hot and bothered over a 12 year old talking shit, you might just have to...I dunno, grow a pair?  Why there's even a mute button designed just for little snots like them.  Who would have guessed.

You have me mistaken for somebody else, I barely play any FPS campaign or online...and people call my comments rude.

I think you deserve it to be honest. 34 something comments and they have all been anti-Microsoft/Xbox owners.

WELCOME TO THE SITE! We can always do with more people like you!

On Topic: Last hope? There is no need for hope yet.

I know i'm a real bastard, some people really take anti-360 comments serious. You'd think that I had just spouted off some neo nazi propaganda with the way people reacted. I have been dealing with anti-PS3 garbage since 2006.


Congratulations, your attitude will be bookmarked as a perfect example of the reason why I think PSN sucks at times, mainly due to people like you being in the Sony fanbase.  If you have nothing remotely positive to say and no interest in the 360 at all then don't bother entering threads for it.

Don't worry too much guys, this troll will disappear later in the year when the PS3 falls back to third in console sales again.

 

......And you are any better? @ bolded yellow text

You're just as bad as me but on the other side, you have no right to judge.


In this case yes, you've flamed and baited an entire group of gamers with your ignorance.  I didn't over gernalise in the way you did hence the term "some".  I have every right to judge you, it's my opinion.  If you're entitled to spout such utter drivel as your opinion then I and every other user on this site has the right to comment on what you've said.  If you don't like the truth then learn to keep your biased and frankly uncivil opinion to yourself if it bothers you to have your ridiculous statements ripped to pieces and proved FUD.

I'm not on the other side at all, I own all 3 consoles but have a preference, at least I've taken the time to get a valid opinion for myself rather than reading SDF FUD and taking it as gospel.  I happen to believe what I said by the way and the 360 overtaking the PS3 in sales is at least marginally on topic unlike most of your posts.

For stating that the 360 fanbase is notorious for having a high amount of angry 12 year old kids and FPS/WRPG fanboys? I'm not even talking about people who just own a 360, I'm talking about 360 fanboys like you see on the Xbox Republic forum, and again I've said this before...if you're not the type of person I'm talking about because I have described their personality traits in a previous post..if you're not that type of person..you have no reason to be offended.

 

The only think you're getting out of my posts is "ps3 good, 360 bad" when it's not quite like that, I'm not even talking about the consoles and their pros/cons, I'm talking about what I percieve the fans of the 360 to be from experience and seeing them around for years. You think I care or hate somebody for owning a 360? It's a video game console, I don't care about that, I care about 360 fanboys spitting out false information and generally being disrespectful to others, I care about that. The fact that somebody owns a 360...I dont care about, I don't hate anybody..I dislike 360 fanboys.

It is my opinion that the PS3 is better than the 360, if you think otherwise that's fine I really don't care what you think, I don't care about the sales, I care about the games I enjoy and where I can play them. I care about reliability and I care about the community. Yes, I do think 360 FANBOYS are pretty awful people who choose to limit themselves to just a few genres originating only in the West. I do think the 360 FANBOYS love their first person shooters...I never said anything about somebody owning a 360, there's a difference between a 360 owner and a fanboy.

Which are you? The way you are getting bent out of shape over me saying anything that may be construed as slightly negative to the 360 leads me to believe you are a fanboy. Maybe you should thicken your skin and not take everything to heart. I admit I get pissed when people falsify crap against the PS3 but I know the difference between somebody pointing out fanboyism and somebody saying "YOU'RE AN IDIOT BECAUSE YOU OWN SUCH AND SUCH" and being a fanboy themselves, If somebody were to say the same thing that I said about the PS fanbase but on the opposite side of the spectrum, I would know that doesn't apply because I'm not that type of person.

 

Oh and to retort to your comment about me reading SDF and taking it as gospel, you have no idea who I am or what I am about, you are basing your opinion on me over a few vague posts about the 360 fanboy-base in general so who is the judgemental one?



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meh, 360 doesn't need hope. It's doing fine. It has a good number of consumers. We will get a NeXtBox.



Squilliam: On Vgcharts its a commonly accepted practice to twist the bounds of plausibility in order to support your argument or agenda so I think its pretty cool that this gives me the precedent to say whatever I damn well please.

Lets put it this way.
Americas.. 360 owns this market and PS3 will never ever come within arms reach

Japan... Lost cause. Before the PS3Slim, ps3 to 360 sales hovered at 2:1-3:1 but since then the 360 has been left eating dust. Ps3 Win... by a few million units

Europe/Others.. Ps3 has the current "edge" but thats exactly what it is. SONY has better brand value but MS have demonstrated that price cuts go a long way to win market share. I'd expect Arcade to be hopefully scrapped sometime this year with a 60GB basic model being introduced at a slightly lower price point.($149?)

Natal will be BIG. However,if you think your gonna be able to strafe and change guns on it on halo reach from day1 you might be disappointed- But its capable, and it sure as hell is exciting.

Honestly If natal is even half as good as the wii.. the wii is gonna get lil or no play from me anymore. I purchased the wii primarily for siblings/folks n friends(and obviously nintendo games) and its a fantastic console to play wii sports with a few beers. But everyone thinks its got the Fugliest graphics ever. If I can enjoy my future titles of casual bowling/party games at 660/720/1080 Id much rather do that.And if it works with RPG's and racers.. even better..

Mii's just make me wanna hurt my corneas with scissors.



Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd.

owner of : atari 2600, commodore 64, NES,gameboy,atari lynx, genesis, saturn,neogeo,DC,PS2,GC,X360, Wii

5 THINGS I'd like to see before i knock out:

a. a AAA 3D sonic title

b. a nintendo developed game that has a "M rating"

c. redesgined PS controller

d. SEGA back in the console business

e. M$ out of the OS business

Nope, I don't think Natal will save Xbox 360. Natal is like an accessory, a makeup to beautify the Xbox 360 for those who already own it to get natal. Its not enough to win new Xbox 360 users to buy the system just for Natal.



d21lewis said:
Natal is Microsoft's Luke Skywalker. It's an untrained orphan farmboy with blonde hair. It'll probably kiss his sister, kill his father, and blow up the Death Star. Yoda rode on his back while he ran through the forest, too. Yoda is cool. Did you see him totally whoop Count Dooku in Episode Il? That was awesome.

Wait. What are we talking about?


Ah now you are talking! he walks in like Hi guys im really old and i need a cane for my knackered knees and then hes like a spinning ball of light saber death! A rat on amphetemines! You see this is a good subject, can we hijack this thread. Its pointless anyway as the answer is so clearly, NO! 39 mill units shifted. blah. "The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural."



 

 assumption is the mother of all f**k ups 

Natal is probably the best hope they have left. currently they cannot drop the arcade price much, the console still costs probably more than 100$ to make so with shipping and everything else i guess 149$ might be possible to do.
only way they can go below that will be a new hardware revision with less chips (integrating cpu+gpu+ memory), this will only work in a smaller production process like 45nm or 40nm (else chip will be too big and too hot to be any use). there has been rumors ms is preparing for this, but since TSMC had big troubles with 40nm till now i doubt such a revision will launch before late this year. so might as well ship a new slim x360 together with natal.

Price cuts are another option, but as we all have seen they are also most effective when done closer to hoilday season.

so my guess for ms strategy this year would be that they won't do much till late summer, and then try a heavy marketing initiative for holiday season with price drops, slim version and natal. when using all 3 cards at once this will give them a quite good position for the holiday season, much better than if they split these things out over the year.