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nightsurge on 29 January 2010
MikeB said:
@ nightsurge

The PS1 only missed one holiday season outside of Japan, but unlike the PS3 it was already a low spec gaming console to begin with. The 360 for example had 2 extra holiday season in PAL regions and a bigger headstart in various other regions.

I think it's won't be strange if the PS3 stays ahead of PS1 tracking by the end of 2010 as well.

What?  The PS1 missed a holiday season for the entire world outside of Japan.  The PS3 missed one holiday season in Europe alone.  The 360 has nothing to do with PS1/PS3 comparisons, so that's a bad example.  It's like no matter what you write, it has to revolve around your PS3 is better than all mentality.  Try to be unbiased Mike.

And no, the PS3 will not sell 20 million consoles this year to keep up with the PS1 even by your very misleading argument.



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GameAnalyser on 29 January 2010
d21lewis said:
GameAnalyser said:
from the hardware and performance perspective..360 has not proved as successful as PS3's. Well Games like MGS4 and UC2 are not possible on the platform. Well FFXIII fortunately found it's way on the console despite it's h/W limitations. Square Enix was kind enuf to turn the favor to M$.

What makes MGS4 and UC2 impossible for the 360?  I own both, and they are great games, but they aren't a generation ahead of games already available (and coming soon) on the 360.  Both consoles are very comparable.  And with the 360 being older technology and keeping pace with the PS3 technically, either the 360's performance is a success or the PS3's performance is a failure............

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not possible in the sense that the media content for these particular games way surpass the storage limit of xbox dvd..as obvious as it is...and where data compression can't be doing any good as u think it can be..And for some mutiplatform games either of them were bogged down in certain areas.



nightsurge on 29 January 2010
GameAnalyser said:
d21lewis said:
GameAnalyser said:
from the hardware and performance perspective..360 has not proved as successful as PS3's. Well Games like MGS4 and UC2 are not possible on the platform. Well FFXIII fortunately found it's way on the console despite it's h/W limitations. Square Enix was kind enuf to turn the favor to M$.

What makes MGS4 and UC2 impossible for the 360?  I own both, and they are great games, but they aren't a generation ahead of games already available (and coming soon) on the 360.  Both consoles are very comparable.  And with the 360 being older technology and keeping pace with the PS3 technically, either the 360's performance is a success or the PS3's performance is a failure............

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not possible in the sense that the media content for these particular games way surpass the storage limit of xbox dvd..as obvious as it is...and where data compression can't be doing any good as u think it can be..And for some mutiplatform games either of them were bogged down in certain areas.

Well for MGS4 I'm sure it wouldn't be hard.  Rather than having to wait 3-5 minutes every act while you wait on the next to install for the PS3 version, you would just swap a disc.  I'm sure compression would have no trouble getting it down to 1 act per disc.  UC2 would be a bit different, but since they are both linear games it would only be the minor inconvenience of swapping discs every now and then.



S.T.A.G.E. on 29 January 2010
GameAnalyser said:
the console isn't successful at all. check the funny numbers in Japan.
The halo series and American userbase are the pros.


Microsoft hit a milestone in Japan.....what are you talking about? Second of all Microsoft didn't expect to have sold what they did this gen. I would love to have what you're smoking. Bias is a hell of a thing.



d21lewis on 30 January 2010
GameAnalyser said:
the console isn't successful at all. check the funny numbers in Japan.
The halo series and American userbase are the pros.

 

  • Halo 3 (8.1 million: 5.9 million in the US)[1][2]
  • Gears of War (5 million,[3] may include PC version)
  • Gears of War 2 (5 million)[4]
  • Grand Theft Auto IV (4.324 million approximately: 3.29 million in US,[5] at least 1 million in UK,[6] 34,000 in Japan)[7]
  • Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (4.2 million)[8]
  • Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (4.172 million approximately: 3.04 million in US,[9] 78,000 in Canada,[10] 54,742 in Japan,[11] at least 1 million in UK)[6]
  • Call of Duty: World at War (3.35 million approximately: 2.75 million in US,[5] 600,000 in UK)[12]
  • Halo 3: ODST (3 million)[13]
  • Forza Motorsport 2 (2.674 million approximately: 2.23 million in US,[14] 31,255 and 100,500 Platinum Collection,[11] 12,600 in Canada,[15] 300,000 in UK)[16]
  • Fable II (2.6 million)[17]
  • Assassin's Creed (2.285 million approximately: 1.87 million in US,[9] 60,000 in Canada,[10] 55,041 in Japan,[11] 300,000 in UK)[16]
  • Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (2.08 million in US)[14]
  • Guitar Hero II (2 million in North America and Western Europe)[18]
  • Saints Row (2 million)[19]
  • Madden NFL 09 (1.87 million in US)[5]
  • The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (1.762 million approximately: 1.49 million in US,[14] 72,274 in Japan,[11] 200,000 in UK)[20]
  • Madden NFL 07 (1.72 million in US)[14]
  • Mass Effect (1.60 million)[1]
  • Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas (1.591 million approximately: 1.27 million in US,[14] 18,592 and 2,731 Platinum Collection version in Japan,[11] 300,000 in UK)[16]
  • Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (1.552 million approximately: 1.32 million in US,[14] 32,000 in Canada, [10] 200,000 in UK)[20]
  • Call of Duty 3 (1.534 million approximately: 1.22 million in US,[14] 14,194 in Japan,[11] 300,000 in UK)[16]
  • Madden NFL 08 (1.51 million in US)[14]
  • BioShock (1.5 million)[21]
  • Crackdown (1.5 million)[22]
  • Perfect Dark Zero (1.5 million)[23]
  • Lost Planet: Extreme Condition (1.5 million)[24]
  • Resident Evil 5 (1.417 million approximately: 1.06 million in US,[25][26] 117,069 in Japan,[11] 200,000 in the UK,[20] 40,135 in France)[27]
  • Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (1.411 million approximately: 1.2 million in US,[28] 8,903 and 1,622 Platinum Collection version in Japan, [11] 200,000 in UK)[20]
  • Call of Duty 2 (1.4 million)[29]
  • Dead Rising (1.4 million)[24]
  • Fight Night Round 3 (1.25 million approximately; 1.15 million in US,[14] 100,000 in UK)[30]
  • Fallout 3 (1.14 million)[31]
  • UFC 2009 Undisputed (1.13 million approximately; 1.03 million in US,[32] 100,000 in UK)[30]
  • Left 4 Dead (over 1 million)[33]
  • The Orange Box (at least 1 million)[34]
  • Dead or Alive 4 (1 million)[35]
  • Forza Motorsport 3 (1 million)[36]
  • Halo Wars (1 million)[37]
  • Ninja Gaiden II (1 million)[38]
  • Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 (1 million)[39]
  • Uno (1 million, XBLA game)[40]
  • Viva Piñata (1 million)

    •  

    And there's more on the way.  It is successful. 

    /thread.



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    the_lonely_gamer_123 on 30 January 2010
    d21lewis said:
    GameAnalyser said:
    the console isn't successful at all. check the funny numbers in Japan.
    The halo series and American userbase are the pros.

     

  • Halo 3 (8.1 million: 5.9 million in the US)[1][2]
  • Gears of War (5 million,[3] may include PC version)
  • Gears of War 2 (5 million)[4]
  • Grand Theft Auto IV (4.324 million approximately: 3.29 million in US,[5] at least 1 million in UK,[6] 34,000 in Japan)[7]
  • Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (4.2 million)[8]
  • Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (4.172 million approximately: 3.04 million in US,[9] 78,000 in Canada,[10] 54,742 in Japan,[11] at least 1 million in UK)[6]
  • Call of Duty: World at War (3.35 million approximately: 2.75 million in US,[5] 600,000 in UK)[12]
  • Halo 3: ODST (3 million)[13]
  • Forza Motorsport 2 (2.674 million approximately: 2.23 million in US,[14] 31,255 and 100,500 Platinum Collection,[11] 12,600 in Canada,[15] 300,000 in UK)[16]
  • Fable II (2.6 million)[17]
  • Assassin's Creed (2.285 million approximately: 1.87 million in US,[9] 60,000 in Canada,[10] 55,041 in Japan,[11] 300,000 in UK)[16]
  • Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (2.08 million in US)[14]
  • Guitar Hero II (2 million in North America and Western Europe)[18]
  • Saints Row (2 million)[19]
  • Madden NFL 09 (1.87 million in US)[5]
  • The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (1.762 million approximately: 1.49 million in US,[14] 72,274 in Japan,[11] 200,000 in UK)[20]
  • Madden NFL 07 (1.72 million in US)[14]
  • Mass Effect (1.60 million)[1]
  • Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas (1.591 million approximately: 1.27 million in US,[14] 18,592 and 2,731 Platinum Collection version in Japan,[11] 300,000 in UK)[16]
  • Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (1.552 million approximately: 1.32 million in US,[14] 32,000 in Canada, [10] 200,000 in UK)[20]
  • Call of Duty 3 (1.534 million approximately: 1.22 million in US,[14] 14,194 in Japan,[11] 300,000 in UK)[16]
  • Madden NFL 08 (1.51 million in US)[14]
  • BioShock (1.5 million)[21]
  • Crackdown (1.5 million)[22]
  • Perfect Dark Zero (1.5 million)[23]
  • Lost Planet: Extreme Condition (1.5 million)[24]
  • Resident Evil 5 (1.417 million approximately: 1.06 million in US,[25][26] 117,069 in Japan,[11] 200,000 in the UK,[20] 40,135 in France)[27]
  • Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (1.411 million approximately: 1.2 million in US,[28] 8,903 and 1,622 Platinum Collection version in Japan, [11] 200,000 in UK)[20]
  • Call of Duty 2 (1.4 million)[29]
  • Dead Rising (1.4 million)[24]
  • Fight Night Round 3 (1.25 million approximately; 1.15 million in US,[14] 100,000 in UK)[30]
  • Fallout 3 (1.14 million)[31]
  • UFC 2009 Undisputed (1.13 million approximately; 1.03 million in US,[32] 100,000 in UK)[30]
  • Left 4 Dead (over 1 million)[33]
  • The Orange Box (at least 1 million)[34]
  • Dead or Alive 4 (1 million)[35]
  • Forza Motorsport 3 (1 million)[36]
  • Halo Wars (1 million)[37]
  • Ninja Gaiden II (1 million)[38]
  • Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 (1 million)[39]
  • Uno (1 million, XBLA game)[40]
  • Viva Piñata (1 million)

    •  

    And there's more on the way.  It is successful. 

    /thread.

    Wiki isn't updated, but that is beside the point. It is successful, it will finish the gen with a profit. And its software sales are good as well. The PS3 isn't successful, and this is coming from a PS3/Sony fanboy. The launch was awful and the PS3 has posted disappointing software sales, although I think that will change due to the PS3 redesign.  

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    BladeOfGod on 31 January 2010
    nightsurge said:
    MikeB said:
    Haste262 said:
    Din know it was very successful :/. Whats the wii then?

    Like the Gameboy despite the low specs I think it's an outstanding success for Nintendo. If I had kids I would most likely also have bought them a Wii.

    But I don't think a PS2.5 would have fitted Sony's long term perspective aims as a consumer electronics company (nor would have been in my personal interest). So personally I am happy there's both the Wii (&PS2) and PS3 available on the market at this point. There isn't much overlap in terms of strongpoints, although I do hope Nintendo will soon come out with a new more capable and Wii compatible console.

    Can you fit any more stealth trolling of the Wii in that post, MikeB?

    Hello nightsurge.

     

    Why do you hate MikeB so much? Would you be happy if he was banned/dead ?



    slowmo on 31 January 2010
    BladeOfGod said:
    nightsurge said:
    MikeB said:
    Haste262 said:
    Din know it was very successful :/. Whats the wii then?

    Like the Gameboy despite the low specs I think it's an outstanding success for Nintendo. If I had kids I would most likely also have bought them a Wii.

    But I don't think a PS2.5 would have fitted Sony's long term perspective aims as a consumer electronics company (nor would have been in my personal interest). So personally I am happy there's both the Wii (&PS2) and PS3 available on the market at this point. There isn't much overlap in terms of strongpoints, although I do hope Nintendo will soon come out with a new more capable and Wii compatible console.

    Can you fit any more stealth trolling of the Wii in that post, MikeB?

    Hello nightsurge.

     

    Why do you hate MikeB so much? Would you be happy if he was banned/dead ?


    Why do you care?   MikeB is always stealth trolling anything other than the PS3.



    Andysw on 31 January 2010

    They still would've been successful anyway if they didn't cut and run the original xbox and rush the xbox 360.



    nightsurge on 31 January 2010
    slowmo said:
    BladeOfGod said:
    nightsurge said:
    MikeB said:
    Haste262 said:
    Din know it was very successful :/. Whats the wii then?

    Like the Gameboy despite the low specs I think it's an outstanding success for Nintendo. If I had kids I would most likely also have bought them a Wii.

    But I don't think a PS2.5 would have fitted Sony's long term perspective aims as a consumer electronics company (nor would have been in my personal interest). So personally I am happy there's both the Wii (&PS2) and PS3 available on the market at this point. There isn't much overlap in terms of strongpoints, although I do hope Nintendo will soon come out with a new more capable and Wii compatible console.

    Can you fit any more stealth trolling of the Wii in that post, MikeB?

    Hello nightsurge.

     

    Why do you hate MikeB so much? Would you be happy if he was banned/dead ?


    Why do you care?   MikeB is always stealth trolling anything other than the PS3.

    Thank you slowmo.  Unfortunately PS3 fans as well as some others just don't see enough of his posts to notice just how bad it gets.  They think we are all on some witch hunt when we aren't.  We just would appreciate it if he'd stop.

    I have nothing against MikeB personally, so its funny that people outside of the situation always try to say that one hates another   He just needs to shape up his act... luckily for him the mods never seem to pin him on any of it since he puts it so subtly.