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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Wii Vitality Sensor will overshadow both Natal and Arc

I'm going to agree with this thread but for a very different reason.

Nintendo has a proven track record with the expanded market. In fact, Nintendo has always tried to make it's games accessible to everyone, but until DS and Wii their hardware wasn't.

Nintendo releases games that grab people's imagination, that are just plain FUN and that anyone can play, pretty much instantly. And most importantly, games that ANYONE, regardless of sex, age or experience with games can and will play. They have 30 years of experience in this field. While another Wii Music is always possible, Nintendo's track record is excellent and we can only expect they'll have something brilliant.

Also remember, Wii's software & hardware teams work TOGETHER. The Vitality sensor was almost certainly developed because the software team had ideas that required that kind of tech. The tech is to support great game(s) ideas.

Sony & especially MS have little experience with the expanded audience that they are now trying to capture. I think Natal is a great innovation. But I highly question MS and Rare's ability to make a game that will grab the imagination of the public abroad, that will be accessible to anyone and will be highly addictive. Yes, Rare makes great games, but not games with mass appeal. Also, their games are being made to suit the hardware, not the other way around.

Sony may have some more experience with the more casual market but they have two huge problems. Arc looks like a Wiimote rip-off and so far it appears they are going to try to use motion in traditional 'core' games moreso than targeting 'casual' games. If that is the route they take, it will massively backfire because people who grew up on dual analog will not suddenly prefer motion (if they did they'd be playing on Wii instead). They will reject it - flat. Especially as it's comes off as a 4 year late wiimote rip-off and not even something unique to the PS3.

While the hardware on both HD systems may be impressive hardware doesn't sell systems. GAMES do. Motion controls didn't sell Wii. Wii Sports sold Wii. I highly doubt Sony & MS will have a true equivalent to Wii Sports. They will have something, but it'll be more a curiosity than a game or system seller.



 

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Alby_da_Wolf said:
Jokes apart, how are they even comparable?

New hardwares releasing later this year that promise new gaming experiences.

What's not to compare?



I think that vita sensor is going to fall flat due to the product having an "inability" to identify its target market on the wii. No one really knows which product from either Sony or Microsoft will take off first. Sony is looking to expand their demographic like they did and already have with the eyetoy/ps3 eye. They are only looking at 4 million sold for the motion controller (which is about what eyetoy did on ps2 so that is not too far fetched). Natal is another story seeing as Microsoft is trying to make it the main attraction of the console. Either way they are all risky and could all fall flat or flourish and beckon in new gaming possibilities.



fwap said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Jokes apart, how are they even comparable?

New hardwares releasing later this year that promise new gaming experiences.

What's not to compare?

New HW doing completely different things you can't buy Arc or Natal to do what Wii VS does, nor vice versa. Good or bad, Wii VS won't have direct competitors, while Arc is a device to make PS3 catch up with WiiMote and offer some of the features of Natal, that on its turn tries to catch up with WiiMote, but offering some completely new (for consoles) features.



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Alby_da_Wolf said:
fwap said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Jokes apart, how are they even comparable?

New hardwares releasing later this year that promise new gaming experiences.

What's not to compare?

New HW doing completely different things you can't buy Arc or Natal to do what Wii VS does, nor vice versa. Good or bad, Wii VS won't have direct competitors, while Arc is a device to make PS3 catch up with WiiMote and offer some of the features of Natal, that on its turn tries to catch up with WiiMote, but offering some completely new (for consoles) features.

See? They are comparable after all.

They're just not exactly the same things.



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IMO i hate motion controls, they feel so gimmicky and just don't sit well with me, i play games to relax not get exercise



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I agree with gamerace



The vita sensor doesn't seem to serve any real purpose. It's supposed to check your hartrate during a game to check exitement(for example scary parts), but doesn't the game already have to be scary to get your heartrate up in te first place? It doesn't make sence, so then al is left is another fitness gimmick.

To be real honest here Wii has been a great succes for Nintendo, but they better come up with something better otherwise they will fail next gen. Because by next gen everyone will have capable motion controls, and with lost 3rd party support Nintendo might be in trouble(they will probably have to lower the price of the Wii already after Natal and Arc release).



Kavitron said:
IMO i hate motion controls, they feel so gimmicky and just don't sit well with me, i play games to relax not get exercise

Then you're in luck.

The VS doesn't detect motion and hints have been made towards it being used for relaxing games.

 

Anyone hoping for a survival horror game is going to be disappointed imo. Nintendo have implied monitoring stress levels. If they bring out something that can show you how to chillax before bed then it'll be huge. Natal and Swaggle will be left in the dirt.



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--OkeyDokey-- said:
The Vitality Sensor is a joke right now. Have to see how they use it before we can tell if it's the next Wii Fit or the next Wii Music.

It's neither. The Vitality Sensor is a peripheral. The other two are games.



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