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LordTheNightKnight on 18 January 2010

"Keep in mind all the request DQ have been done by Level 5 (awesome devs). They only been published by SE."

Just IX and VIII, not the remakes and spinoffs.



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O-D-C on 18 January 2010

cool story bra



jarrod on 19 January 2010
darconi said:
jarrod said:
RageBot said:
And Square ARE lazy, they don't make inspired games anymore, where are the days of Xenogears? Chrono Cross? Vagrant Story? The Great Final Fantasies? (6,7,9).

I'd take Dragon Quest over any of them.  Ew Xenogaers. :/

I do miss Matsuno though.  At least Kawazu's been (mostly) delivering still.

Keep in mind all the request DQ have been done by Level 5 (awesome devs).  They only been published by SE. 

DQ8-9 were codeveloped between Yuji Hori's team (Armor Project) and Level-5.  Actually it's always been that way, Chunsoft co-developed DQ1-5 and Heartbeat (now Genius Sonority) co-developed DQ6-7.



Hisiru on 19 January 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Keep in mind all the request DQ have been done by Level 5 (awesome devs). They only been published by SE."

Just IX and VIII, not the remakes and spinoffs.

The remakes were developed by ArtePiazza.



RageBot on 19 January 2010
Hisiru said:
RageBot said:
jarrod said:
RageBot said:
And Square ARE lazy, they don't make inspired games anymore, where are the days of Xenogears? Chrono Cross? Vagrant Story? The Great Final Fantasies? (6,7,9).

I'd take Dragon Quest over any of them.  Ew Xenogaers. :/

I do miss Matsuno though.  At least Kawazu's been (mostly) delivering still.

DQ is not my cup of tea, I prefer good plot, characters and soundtrack in my RPG, not gameplay (lol :P)

But DQ is more about a good plot, characters and soundtrack than gameplay. Actually, DQ always have a great plot.

I was comparing DQ to Xenogears, if you take the entire DQ franchise combind it will never come close to Xenogears' plot, characters and soundtrack.



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jarrod on 19 January 2010
RageBot said:
Hisiru said:
RageBot said:
jarrod said:
RageBot said:
And Square ARE lazy, they don't make inspired games anymore, where are the days of Xenogears? Chrono Cross? Vagrant Story? The Great Final Fantasies? (6,7,9).

I'd take Dragon Quest over any of them.  Ew Xenogaers. :/

I do miss Matsuno though.  At least Kawazu's been (mostly) delivering still.

DQ is not my cup of tea, I prefer good plot, characters and soundtrack in my RPG, not gameplay (lol :P)

But DQ is more about a good plot, characters and soundtrack than gameplay. Actually, DQ always have a great plot.

I was comparing DQ to Xenogears, if you take the entire DQ franchise combind it will never come close to Xenogears' plot, characters and soundtrack.

lol.  Maybe in terms of convolution and cliche.



RageBot on 19 January 2010
jarrod said:
RageBot said:
Hisiru said:
RageBot said:
jarrod said:
RageBot said:
And Square ARE lazy, they don't make inspired games anymore, where are the days of Xenogears? Chrono Cross? Vagrant Story? The Great Final Fantasies? (6,7,9).

I'd take Dragon Quest over any of them.  Ew Xenogaers. :/

I do miss Matsuno though.  At least Kawazu's been (mostly) delivering still.

DQ is not my cup of tea, I prefer good plot, characters and soundtrack in my RPG, not gameplay (lol :P)

But DQ is more about a good plot, characters and soundtrack than gameplay. Actually, DQ always have a great plot.

I was comparing DQ to Xenogears, if you take the entire DQ franchise combind it will never come close to Xenogears' plot, characters and soundtrack.

lol.  Maybe in terms of convolution and cliche.

Better cliche and convoltuion over nothing amirite? :D



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jarrod on 19 January 2010
RageBot said:
jarrod said:
RageBot said:
Hisiru said:
RageBot said:
jarrod said:
RageBot said:
And Square ARE lazy, they don't make inspired games anymore, where are the days of Xenogears? Chrono Cross? Vagrant Story? The Great Final Fantasies? (6,7,9).

I'd take Dragon Quest over any of them.  Ew Xenogaers. :/

I do miss Matsuno though.  At least Kawazu's been (mostly) delivering still.

DQ is not my cup of tea, I prefer good plot, characters and soundtrack in my RPG, not gameplay (lol :P)

But DQ is more about a good plot, characters and soundtrack than gameplay. Actually, DQ always have a great plot.

I was comparing DQ to Xenogears, if you take the entire DQ franchise combind it will never come close to Xenogears' plot, characters and soundtrack.

lol.  Maybe in terms of convolution and cliche.

Better cliche and convoltuion over nothing amirite? :D

No, I think I'd honestly take nothing.   Dragon Quest became huge in Japan because of the characters and scenario though.  And rightly so.



RageBot on 19 January 2010
jarrod said:
RageBot said:
jarrod said:
RageBot said:
Hisiru said:
RageBot said:
jarrod said:
RageBot said:
And Square ARE lazy, they don't make inspired games anymore, where are the days of Xenogears? Chrono Cross? Vagrant Story? The Great Final Fantasies? (6,7,9).

I'd take Dragon Quest over any of them.  Ew Xenogaers. :/

I do miss Matsuno though.  At least Kawazu's been (mostly) delivering still.

DQ is not my cup of tea, I prefer good plot, characters and soundtrack in my RPG, not gameplay (lol :P)

But DQ is more about a good plot, characters and soundtrack than gameplay. Actually, DQ always have a great plot.

I was comparing DQ to Xenogears, if you take the entire DQ franchise combind it will never come close to Xenogears' plot, characters and soundtrack.

lol.  Maybe in terms of convolution and cliche.

Better cliche and convoltuion over nothing amirite? :D

No, I think I'd honestly take nothing.   Dragon Quest became huge in Japan because of the characters and scenario though.  And rightly so.

Nope, they like the gameplay, DQ and FF got big before They had plots of any noteworthy caliber.



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jarrod on 19 January 2010
RageBot said:
jarrod said:
RageBot said:
jarrod said:
RageBot said:
Hisiru said:
RageBot said:
jarrod said:
RageBot said:
And Square ARE lazy, they don't make inspired games anymore, where are the days of Xenogears? Chrono Cross? Vagrant Story? The Great Final Fantasies? (6,7,9).

I'd take Dragon Quest over any of them.  Ew Xenogaers. :/

I do miss Matsuno though.  At least Kawazu's been (mostly) delivering still.

DQ is not my cup of tea, I prefer good plot, characters and soundtrack in my RPG, not gameplay (lol :P)

But DQ is more about a good plot, characters and soundtrack than gameplay. Actually, DQ always have a great plot.

I was comparing DQ to Xenogears, if you take the entire DQ franchise combind it will never come close to Xenogears' plot, characters and soundtrack.

lol.  Maybe in terms of convolution and cliche.

Better cliche and convoltuion over nothing amirite? :D

No, I think I'd honestly take nothing.   Dragon Quest became huge in Japan because of the characters and scenario though.  And rightly so.

Nope, they like the gameplay, DQ and FF got big before They had plots of any noteworthy caliber.

So... you've never actually completed a DQ game, have you?

Scenario/character is one of DQ's main selling points.  Hell, that's why Enix got Toriyama to do the designs.  DQ's stories tend to revolve more around universal themes too, more about humanity and spirit, less about angst and Neitzsche.  DQV has probably the best story in an RPG imo, and was lightyears ahead of it's time.