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Euphoria14 on 17 January 2010

Nintendo is swimming in cash, ask them to buy a big name exclusive. Sony and MS do it for their fanbase, maybe Nintendo should shell out millions and millions to get you what you deserve.

They owe to you all for buying 60M consoles.



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vaio on 17 January 2010
Euphoria14 said:
vaio said:
Euphoria14 said:
vaio said:
 

I have a HD system, I have everything except PS3 and I will continue to bitch about the lack of effort on the Wii because at this point there is no excuse for them not to bring it to the Wii.

When they stop bitching about their halfassed work not being sold enough on the Wii then maybe i will stop bitching too.

All I want is the same effort put into a Wii game from theese developers as they put into the HD twins, no more of their C teams making games for the Wii bring on their A teams (their best teams) to make a game for the wii.

FPS games would fit perfectly on the Wii with the wiimote and yet they dont bring it, they rather bring it on the HD with their inferior controls and that is fracked up especially when they bitch that their games dont sell on the Wii.

Just look at Modern warfare, even though its inferior graphics wise and gimped both game wise and marketing wise the game is still a superior experinece on the Wii, especially when you allready have played it on a HD system once (thats all better graphic does, its better the first time with enhanced graphics then it doesnt mutter anynmore).

@Green

This has always been a favorite argument. People taking something totally subjective and passing it off as fact.

Not everyone likes playing FPS games with the Wiimote. I am one of them. I would rather take a controller any day of the week. Hell, I don't even like playing them with a mouse.

If you like living in the past then so be it, Ive been playing with a controller for almost 30 years and the main thing during this time has been better graphics and thats so old now.

I have eagerly been awaiting the Wii since Nintendo announced their work on the revolution project (the wii) in the mid 90´s and its finally here and it pisses me of that i have to wait even longer to play the games that benefit the most from the wii mote wich in this case would be FPS games.

I've been playing with a controller as well for over 20 years now and I still enjoy it. I'm not living in the past, I am just sticking with what I enjoy, plain and simple. I play mainly RPG titles and I see zero advantage of playing with a Wiimote/Wand as opposed to a standard controller.

Of course our tastes differ, which is perfectly normal.

Maybe if these Wii owners bought Metroid Prime more than they did when it was released years ago third parties would have made them since they would have seen a big audience for it, but unfortunately they didn't. Instead they saw that more people clearly prefer to play FPS on a console with a standard controller.

Not trying to tell you jump ship, but we all know the PS3 will continue to get FPS games, not just from 3rd parties, but from Sony themselves. These future titles will not doubt feature support for their wand, so if you want them that bad you will know where to find them.

I still enjoy my games with controller I never said we should stop playing with an ordinary controller, sometimes you just dont feel like playing with a wiimote and play with the regular instead, but i dont let the fact that I enjoy it get in the way of evolving as a gamer and thats what the Wii has done it has evolved gaming and its frustrating that theese corporations are just refusing to evolve with it and that I would have to wait another gen for them to get it because they will get it eventually as you can see with the Natal and Sony Wand coming out and all the support alot of theese companies are throwing their way (atleast Natals way).

I dont need to jump ship I allready have hd console (i actually have 2 360´s) and I will get a ps3 when their is enough games to warrant a buy (its almost there).



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richardhutnik on 17 January 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Right, you could pull off Assassins creed without a living breathing city and massive landscapes and combat."

San Andreas had all those things. While that's too much for the PS1, it's not too much for the Wii, so all that gets sacrificed is an expensive coat of paint.

Wait, I thought I saw GTA for the Intellivision.  At least I saw a video up on YouTube regarding it.



LordTheNightKnight on 17 January 2010
Ail said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Right, you could pull off Assassins creed without a living breathing city and massive landscapes and combat."

San Andreas had all those things. While that's too much for the PS1, it's not too much for the Wii, so all that gets sacrificed is an expensive coat of paint.

Have you played AC2 ?

You can climb every single building and move from top to top..

You can not interact with any San Andreas building, they are just blocks with shiny texture on top...

1. That was not among the things you listed.

2. Again, that was on the PS2, which the Wii would have room to add such abilities, even if it would have been too much on the PS2.



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Carl on 17 January 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Maybe the best developers, directors and producers dont want to sacrifice their vision and scope at the expense of a userbase that mostly consists of people interested in carnival games, fitness games, and deca sports resort."

They stopped buying those. Did you even pay attention to recent news?

They might have stopped buying those specific games, but they didn't stop buying those type of games.

Top selling Wii games from this weeks top 25 that aren't Nintendo published, and don't feature any Nintendo characters (afaik)...

8. Just Dance
9. MW: Reflex
10. EA Sports Active
11. Your Shape ft. JM
13. LEGO SW
14. Band Hero
15. Deal or no Deal
16. Taiko something
18. NERF NStrike Elite
20. EA Sports Active +
21. Carnival Games Mini Golf
22. Toy Story Mania
24. Random long named Japanese game.
25. Hasbro Family Game Night 2

Did they really stop buying those?



                            

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richardhutnik on 17 January 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
Ail said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Right, you could pull off Assassins creed without a living breathing city and massive landscapes and combat."

San Andreas had all those things. While that's too much for the PS1, it's not too much for the Wii, so all that gets sacrificed is an expensive coat of paint.

Have you played AC2 ?

You can climb every single building and move from top to top..

You can not interact with any San Andreas building, they are just blocks with shiny texture on top...

1. That was not among the things you listed.

2. Again, that was on the PS2, which the Wii would have room to add such abilities, even if it would have been too much on the PS2.

Couldn't you climb on top of the buildings in Spiderman 2 on the PS2, and also interact with the city?



vaio on 17 January 2010
Ail said:
vaio said:
steverhcp02 said:
vaio said:
 

I have a HD system, I have everything except PS3 and I will continue to bitch about the lack of effort on the Wii because at this point there is no excuse for them not to bring it to the Wii.

When they stop bitching about their halfassed work not being sold enough on the Wii then maybe i will stop bitching too.

All I want is the same effort put into a Wii game from theese developers as they put into the HD twins, no more of their C teams making games for the Wii bring on their A teams (their best teams) to make a game for the wii.

FPS games would fit perfectly on the Wii with the wiimote and yet they dont bring it, they rather bring it on the HD with their inferior controls and that is fracked up especially when they bitch that their games dont sell on the Wii.

Just look at Modern warfare, even though its inferior graphics wise and gimped both game wise and marketing wise the game is still a superior experinece on the Wii, especially when you allready have played it on a HD system once (thats all better graphic does, its better the first time with enhanced graphics then it doesnt mutter anynmore).

Maybe the best developers, directors and producers dont want to sacrifice their vision and scope at the expense of a userbase that mostly consists of people interested in carnival games, fitness games, and deca sports resort.

if they could do it for the playstation then they could do it for the Wii its as simple as that.

Then you might want to pick up a PS2 for 99$, I hear it has a huge catalog..

oh so i see running out of arguments then we go with a pathetic statement instead thats just what u always do and once again u prove it.



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In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird  and people take Prozac  to make it normal.

If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh

Is marijuana the best medicine?

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.

Euphoria14 on 17 January 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Maybe if these Wii owners bought Metroid Prime more than they did when it was released years ago third parties would have made them since they would have seen a big audience for it,"

That's just an excuse. Metroid Prime was not an FPS. That's like saying Zelda is GTA.

Fine then, tell Nintendo to make/get you a FPS.

They can get it for you if they really want to. We all know these companies will take the money.



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steverhcp02 on 17 January 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
Ail said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Right, you could pull off Assassins creed without a living breathing city and massive landscapes and combat."

San Andreas had all those things. While that's too much for the PS1, it's not too much for the Wii, so all that gets sacrificed is an expensive coat of paint.

Have you played AC2 ?

You can climb every single building and move from top to top..

You can not interact with any San Andreas building, they are just blocks with shiny texture on top...

1. That was not among the things you listed.

2. Again, that was on the PS2, which the Wii would have room to add such abilities, even if it would have been too much on the PS2.

But thats what youre missing! The things that make the games what they ARE at their core simply cant be done on the wii. Look at the PSP version of assassins creed. Regardless of sales the sacrifice in what made the franchise what it was, the environment, the scope, scale, size, button mapping totally ruin it.

Seriously, if the best argument you have is, the games on the PS2 can be done on the wii, then why not play a PS2? Why do you insist that devs spend time an dmoney making games that have ALREADY BEEN DONE 7 years ago? That would be acceptable to you?




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vaio on 17 January 2010
Carl2291 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Maybe the best developers, directors and producers dont want to sacrifice their vision and scope at the expense of a userbase that mostly consists of people interested in carnival games, fitness games, and deca sports resort."

They stopped buying those. Did you even pay attention to recent news?

They might have stopped buying those specific games, but they didn't stop buying those type of games.

Top selling Wii games from this weeks top 25 that aren't Nintendo published, and don't feature any Nintendo characters (afaik)...

8. Just Dance
9. MW: Reflex
10. EA Sports Active
11. Your Shape ft. JM
13. LEGO SW
14. Band Hero
15. Deal or no Deal
16. Taiko something
18. NERF NStrike Elite
20. EA Sports Active +
21. Carnival Games Mini Golf
22. Toy Story Mania
24. Random long named Japanese game.
25. Hasbro Family Game Night 2

Did they really stop buying those?

well to be fair u cant have a game on that list if its not made yet so u using that list is just not relevant now is it?



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In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird  and people take Prozac  to make it normal.

If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh

Is marijuana the best medicine?

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.