That is the most defeatist thing I have ever heard. Should they have kept making Pong machine-clones when the Atari turned up? How about keep on just making games for those game centric PC's when the NES was selling like hotcakes, and keep on making light gun arcade machines while the Playstation was in the ascendant?

They're going to get the rug pulled from under them if they can't adapt to the changing times.

Basically they are all asking for innovation and lets face it it comes little at a time in this industry.

heck even Nintendo only did it a couple time this gen with Wii Sports and Wii Fit.

Lets look at the 2 mosty successfull Mario games : MKWii and NSMBWii, do they really innovate that much and go away from the previous iterations in those franchises ? Not really. Even the king Nintendo, most of the time, is sticking to what it knows best......

1.) Okay, any particular reason for that thinking? Proof, as it were?

2.) Then what are you blaming here? The Wiideli? As far as I'm aware, it hasn't restricted Threepee in how he chooses to make his sandwiches.

Yes.

My favorite games made by Capcom are Mega Man 2, 3, and 9.  I refuse to believe that they can make good 8-bit games, Resident Evil 4 for the GameCube, and nothing but on-rail shooters for the Wii, which is more powerful than the GameCube.  RE4 as a GC port can still sell really well on the Wii, so that engine is definitely still good enough for the Wii consumer, so I think they should make more games that use that engine.

EDIT: And there used to a be a time where I thought to myself "Ubisoft can make all the bad games they want.  They made Beyond Good and Evil so I'll love them forever."  Boy was I wrong.

"They?" Are you implying that "we" are asking for innovation? The answer to that is "no." Mario Kart Wii  didn't innovate; it's a so-called bridge game. We're not even asking for a bridge game, we simply want something that works with what's there. Some games do work but aren't solid efforts in genres that we want.

Don't throw Madworld at me because I don't want to touch that game with a ten foot pole.

That's the issue most have been struggling with.

You just can't make Re5 for the Wii from the HD console version, most of the game has to be redone, and then you get into the issue that your Re5 Wii is going head to head with Re5 HD and a significant percentage of the dual console owners will pick the HD version...

Despite what some claim here there has not been a demonstration this gen that users will pick a tuned down version of a game with Wii control over a more graphically attractive one with traditional controls...

Typically what has happened so far is when a game was released on all 3 consoles it was either not graphic/cpu intensive ( rythm games) or the HD version were far from taking full advantage of the console they were on ( SW Force Unleashed for example)....

But there's still a market for it. As long as there are still people willing to buy those Pong machines, game centric PCs and light gun arcade machines, they will still sell them.

They will adapt eventually (if the fact that they can't survive like this really proves it self right over time), it'll just take more than 3 years to do it.

You have to understand that the industry has been going in one direction for over 15 years and it can't change over night.

There hasn't been a demonstration of the opposite either. That's part of the problem.

That's what I was about to chime up and say.  One of the reasons third parties was initially hesitant to working on the Wii was because of the controller.  They felt if they made a Wii game, they would have to focus on using the Wii controls primarily.  But now they don't.  Many games, from Nintendo itself but also third parties, have come out using a myriad of other control methods from the classic controller/GC controller to tilting the Wii controller and using it like an NES controller to just using the basic Wiimote without the 'waggle'.  Pretty much now there is little to no excuse a third party can make for not making a game on the Wii aside from 'we want to make a game in HD' or 'we don't think it will sell well to that market'.  Which both of those excuses are pretty weak and based purely on their lack of effort in making Wii games.

As for taking existing HD games and turning them into Wii games, that's near impossible.  The graphics would have to be totally redone for Wii.