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kopstudent89 on 03 July 2011

The rankings as of July 02, 2011 closed

[PS3] Tales of export Syria - 241pt (7)
[PSP] DX or pretend to be ~ ぽ Taiko no Tatsujin - 89pt (6)
[PSP] Limited Edition Black ★ Rock Shooter THE GAME "White Premium BOX" - 83pt (1)
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIII Verusasu - 82Pt
[PS3] Monster Hunter Portable 3rd HD Ver. - 71pt (2)
[PS3] Armored Core 5 - 64Pt (1)
[PS3] Dark Soul - 58pt (1)
[PSP] Toriko Gourmet Survival! - 57pt (10)
[PS3] OG Super Robot Wars 2 - 53pt (3)
[Wii] Inazuma Eleven Strikers - 52pt (5)
[PSP] BASARA Sengoku Heroes Chronicles - 49pt (1)
[PSP] Queen's Gate Spiral Chaos Edition - 46pt (2)
[PSP] G Airu Village Diary warm Monhan - 44pt (2)
[PS3] EARTH DEFENSE FORCE: INSECT ARMAGEDDON - 36pt (3)
[PSP] Limited Edition Complete Book of the Pik locus Hero - 31pt
[PSP] Queen's Gate Spiral Chaos Edition - 31pt
[PSP] To Aru Kagaku no Railgun (Limited Edition) - 30pt
[PSP] Final Fantasy Zero Expressions - 30pt
[PS3] 2011 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball - 29pt (2)
[PS3] Metal Gear Solid Rising - 27pt

It's amazing how many PS3 games are there given that their release is LAte August/early september (AC2, Super Robot Wars, Tales, MH3P , Dark Soul)

Inazuma is getting good increases. It has 2 weeks exactly to continue rising. It should get above 100 points however that would be a decline to the series :/ Though this isn't an RPG by any account either



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Buzzi on 03 July 2011
kopstudent89 said:
ExtremeBrawler said:
120-140k for Abyss?!?
You're overstimating it.
That would put in shame Graces' debut on Wii,come on...
About Abyss,I've seen the Comgnet's pt and the debuts of the precedent PSP remake,and I've noticed something interesting.
The first Tales of released on the platform has been Eternia.It ended with 109pt,and this translated into 70k.Yeah,less pt than Abyss,but...let me finish.
Then,one year later,we have Phantasia.
It ends with 230pt...but it debuts with 65k.
And Destiny 2?
Some more points,but an almost equal debut.
Seeing that Comgnet is "loyal" to Sony consoles for some reasons,that in the same years we had the dominance of DS...I think that the great discrepance between pt and real units is determined by the very bad software health for PSP in that period.Now you can't say PSP is unable to sold software,but back then the DS was too much for everything,and PSP was in a bad state.
So,in conclusion...due to the fact that the 3DS has a very good software shape in my opinion (see Mercenaries 3D at 90k,One Piece almost at 120k,SSFIV at 100k+,Sengoku Musou probably at 120k+ given the last Famitsu update,Layton at 300k,Famista 2011 at more than 40k following MCs data despite a 13k-debut,RR3D and PES at 80k,Pilotwings near the 70k despite a sub 30k debut,Nintendogs at 240k and growing constantly,even if at a rather slow pace of 3k per week),Abyss can debut between 60k and 80k...I think 72k,which would be good.


Justy saying tat one piece finished with 90 points, opened at 80k. Mercenaries 50 points and FW was 50k. Zelda had 150 points and opened at 165k... maybe tales will be more preordered  but i still fully expect a debut more than 100k 

JRPGs are generally more frontloaded, especially in "hardcore" stores like COMG. 1 point will sure mean less than 1k, looking at the past a debut of 80k would be great for being launched on a new handheld, and as ExtremeBrawler said 3DS games are having good legs, which could put TotA to 130-140k, a very good figure for a porting (Namco just added the 3D, expanded the visuals to 16:9 and obviously changed the controls).



CURRENTLY PLAYING: Xenoblade (Wii), Super mario 3D land (3DS), Guild Wars (PC)

 

kopstudent89 on 03 July 2011
Buzzi said:
kopstudent89 said:
ExtremeBrawler said:
120-140k for Abyss?!?
You're overstimating it.
That would put in shame Graces' debut on Wii,come on...
About Abyss,I've seen the Comgnet's pt and the debuts of the precedent PSP remake,and I've noticed something interesting.
The first Tales of released on the platform has been Eternia.It ended with 109pt,and this translated into 70k.Yeah,less pt than Abyss,but...let me finish.
Then,one year later,we have Phantasia.
It ends with 230pt...but it debuts with 65k.
And Destiny 2?
Some more points,but an almost equal debut.
Seeing that Comgnet is "loyal" to Sony consoles for some reasons,that in the same years we had the dominance of DS...I think that the great discrepance between pt and real units is determined by the very bad software health for PSP in that period.Now you can't say PSP is unable to sold software,but back then the DS was too much for everything,and PSP was in a bad state.
So,in conclusion...due to the fact that the 3DS has a very good software shape in my opinion (see Mercenaries 3D at 90k,One Piece almost at 120k,SSFIV at 100k+,Sengoku Musou probably at 120k+ given the last Famitsu update,Layton at 300k,Famista 2011 at more than 40k following MCs data despite a 13k-debut,RR3D and PES at 80k,Pilotwings near the 70k despite a sub 30k debut,Nintendogs at 240k and growing constantly,even if at a rather slow pace of 3k per week),Abyss can debut between 60k and 80k...I think 72k,which would be good.


Justy saying tat one piece finished with 90 points, opened at 80k. Mercenaries 50 points and FW was 50k. Zelda had 150 points and opened at 165k... maybe tales will be more preordered  but i still fully expect a debut more than 100k 

JRPGs are generally more frontloaded, especially in "hardcore" stores like COMG. 1 point will sure mean less than 1k, looking at the past a debut of 80k would be great for being launched on a new handheld, and as ExtremeBrawler said 3DS games are having good legs, which could put TotA to 130-140k, a very good figure for a porting (Namco just added the 3D, expanded the visuals to 16:9 and obviously changed the controls).

I do agree with you on that, especially when it comes to Tales. I might end up wrong in the end but i still think even for a Tales game, preorders on a Nintendo console will not be as much on Comgnet as a Sony console. I still think it will manage 100k+ FW and closer to 120k.

Anyways in the end Comgnet just gives us some sort of estimation which is not necessarily correct. 80k+ FW would be good  but not great imo



Mad55 on 03 July 2011

tales is doing great, and i didnt notice dark souls was that high.



kopstudent89 on 03 July 2011

I'd be interested to see when DQ collection will appear. That should do well given it has a preview of DQX (!!!!! Finally!!!!)

@Yum

http://www.comgnet.com/ranking/

here you go.. Sorry i'm sometimes late but it's either updating on time or sleeping :P



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kopstudent89 on 03 July 2011

The rankings as of July 03, 2011 closed

[PS3] Tales of export Syria - 248pt (7)
[PSP] DX or pretend to be ~ ぽ Taiko no Tatsujin - 102pt (13!!)
[PSP] Limited Edition Black ★ Rock Shooter THE GAME "White Premium BOX" - 84pt (1)
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIII Verusasu - 82Pt
[PS3] Monster Hunter Portable 3rd HD Ver. - 77pt (6)
[PSP] Toriko Gourmet Survival! - 64pt (7)
[PS3] Armored Core 5 - 64Pt
[PS3] Dark Soul - 58pt
[Wii] Inazuma Eleven Strikers - 57pt (5)
[PS3] OG Super Robot Wars 2 - 55pt (2)
[PSP] BASARA Sengoku Heroes Chronicles - 54pt (5)
[PSP] G Airu Village Diary warm Monhan - 48pt (4)
[PSP] Queen's Gate Spiral Chaos Edition - 48pt (2)
[PS3] EARTH DEFENSE FORCE: INSECT ARMAGEDDON - 39pt (3)
[PS3] 2011 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball - 35pt (6)
[PSP] 2011 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball - 34pt (new)
[PSP] Limited Edition Complete Book of the Pik locus Hero - 31pt
[PSP] Queen's Gate Spiral Chaos Edition - 31pt
[PSP] Final Fantasy Zero Expressions - 31pt (1)
[PSP] To Aru Kagaku no Railgun (Limited Edition) - 30pt

- Awesome day! Taiko with a monstrous rise as it releases this week!

- Inazuma also steadily increasing.. should reach 100 easy at this rate

- Loads of PS3/PSP games here

- Notably both jikkyou baseball versions are going up at the same rate

 

And a preview for this week

 

Aggregate time ranking: Tuesday, July 03, 2011 June 27, 2011 ~

  1. [3DS] Tales of the Abyss - 196pt
  2. [PSP] * mutsu Symphony white or color-no-Special Limited Edition Bundle hana - 160pt
  3. [PS3] Street Fighter IV arcade edition - 141pt
  4. [PSP] ToHeart2 Dungeon Travelers (Limited Edition) - 68pt
  5. [PS3] 3 ~ ~ Arland Merle's Atelier - 49pt
  6. [Wii] Golden Eye 007 - 48pt
  7. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina 3D - 46pt
  8. [PSP] Gundam Battle memories Memories ~ ~ - 45pt
  9. [PSP] Cardboard Senki - 44pt
  10. [PS3] OF THE END Yakuza - 31pt
  11. [PSP] * mutsu Symphony white or color-no-hana (Limited Edition) - 27pt
  12. [PSP] ToHeart2 Dungeon Travelers (Limited Edition) - 24pt
  13. [PS3] Test Drive Unlimited 2 - 24pt
  14. [PS3] BLEACH Soul Ignition - 22pt
  15. [PS3] Power Smash 4 - 21pt
  16. [PSP] Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker PSP the Best - 17pt
  17. [NDS] The Prince of Tennis tight! Survival of the mountains and the sea pounding Love Passion - 17pt
  18. [PSP] STEINS; GATE (Limited Edition) - 16pt
  19. [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 Professional - 16pt
  20. [NDS] Kaidan family restaurant! New menu selection 100 - 15pt

 

Abyss leading... and i hope Ocarina doesnt fall to 20k'sh levels. that would be disappointing imo

 



Buzzi on 04 July 2011
kopstudent89 said:
Buzzi said:
kopstudent89 said:
ExtremeBrawler said:
120-140k for Abyss?!?
You're overstimating it.
That would put in shame Graces' debut on Wii,come on...
About Abyss,I've seen the Comgnet's pt and the debuts of the precedent PSP remake,and I've noticed something interesting.
The first Tales of released on the platform has been Eternia.It ended with 109pt,and this translated into 70k.Yeah,less pt than Abyss,but...let me finish.
Then,one year later,we have Phantasia.
It ends with 230pt...but it debuts with 65k.
And Destiny 2?
Some more points,but an almost equal debut.
Seeing that Comgnet is "loyal" to Sony consoles for some reasons,that in the same years we had the dominance of DS...I think that the great discrepance between pt and real units is determined by the very bad software health for PSP in that period.Now you can't say PSP is unable to sold software,but back then the DS was too much for everything,and PSP was in a bad state.
So,in conclusion...due to the fact that the 3DS has a very good software shape in my opinion (see Mercenaries 3D at 90k,One Piece almost at 120k,SSFIV at 100k+,Sengoku Musou probably at 120k+ given the last Famitsu update,Layton at 300k,Famista 2011 at more than 40k following MCs data despite a 13k-debut,RR3D and PES at 80k,Pilotwings near the 70k despite a sub 30k debut,Nintendogs at 240k and growing constantly,even if at a rather slow pace of 3k per week),Abyss can debut between 60k and 80k...I think 72k,which would be good.


Justy saying tat one piece finished with 90 points, opened at 80k. Mercenaries 50 points and FW was 50k. Zelda had 150 points and opened at 165k... maybe tales will be more preordered  but i still fully expect a debut more than 100k 

JRPGs are generally more frontloaded, especially in "hardcore" stores like COMG. 1 point will sure mean less than 1k, looking at the past a debut of 80k would be great for being launched on a new handheld, and as ExtremeBrawler said 3DS games are having good legs, which could put TotA to 130-140k, a very good figure for a porting (Namco just added the 3D, expanded the visuals to 16:9 and obviously changed the controls).

I do agree with you on that, especially when it comes to Tales. I might end up wrong in the end but i still think even for a Tales game, preorders on a Nintendo console will not be as much on Comgnet as a Sony console. I still think it will manage 100k+ FW and closer to 120k.

Anyways in the end Comgnet just gives us some sort of estimation which is not necessarily correct. 80k+ FW would be good  but not great imo

Japan's preview says 65k, it is usually very far from the real data but I doubt it has sold 120k, more like 50-90k, hopefully near 100k (which still is good, on Wii it would've done worst even with 11m more users XD).



CURRENTLY PLAYING: Xenoblade (Wii), Super mario 3D land (3DS), Guild Wars (PC)

 

kopstudent89 on 04 July 2011
Buzzi said:
kopstudent89 said:
Buzzi said:
kopstudent89 said:
ExtremeBrawler said:
120-140k for Abyss?!?
You're overstimating it.
That would put in shame Graces' debut on Wii,come on...
About Abyss,I've seen the Comgnet's pt and the debuts of the precedent PSP remake,and I've noticed something interesting.
The first Tales of released on the platform has been Eternia.It ended with 109pt,and this translated into 70k.Yeah,less pt than Abyss,but...let me finish.
Then,one year later,we have Phantasia.
It ends with 230pt...but it debuts with 65k.
And Destiny 2?
Some more points,but an almost equal debut.
Seeing that Comgnet is "loyal" to Sony consoles for some reasons,that in the same years we had the dominance of DS...I think that the great discrepance between pt and real units is determined by the very bad software health for PSP in that period.Now you can't say PSP is unable to sold software,but back then the DS was too much for everything,and PSP was in a bad state.
So,in conclusion...due to the fact that the 3DS has a very good software shape in my opinion (see Mercenaries 3D at 90k,One Piece almost at 120k,SSFIV at 100k+,Sengoku Musou probably at 120k+ given the last Famitsu update,Layton at 300k,Famista 2011 at more than 40k following MCs data despite a 13k-debut,RR3D and PES at 80k,Pilotwings near the 70k despite a sub 30k debut,Nintendogs at 240k and growing constantly,even if at a rather slow pace of 3k per week),Abyss can debut between 60k and 80k...I think 72k,which would be good.


Justy saying tat one piece finished with 90 points, opened at 80k. Mercenaries 50 points and FW was 50k. Zelda had 150 points and opened at 165k... maybe tales will be more preordered  but i still fully expect a debut more than 100k 

JRPGs are generally more frontloaded, especially in "hardcore" stores like COMG. 1 point will sure mean less than 1k, looking at the past a debut of 80k would be great for being launched on a new handheld, and as ExtremeBrawler said 3DS games are having good legs, which could put TotA to 130-140k, a very good figure for a porting (Namco just added the 3D, expanded the visuals to 16:9 and obviously changed the controls).

I do agree with you on that, especially when it comes to Tales. I might end up wrong in the end but i still think even for a Tales game, preorders on a Nintendo console will not be as much on Comgnet as a Sony console. I still think it will manage 100k+ FW and closer to 120k.

Anyways in the end Comgnet just gives us some sort of estimation which is not necessarily correct. 80k+ FW would be good  but not great imo

Japan's preview says 65k, it is usually very far from the real data but I doubt it has sold 120k, more like 50-90k, hopefully near 100k (which still is good, on Wii it would've done worst even with 11m more users XD).

Japanese preview estimated Ocarina at 85k. :P 

Anyways i believe overall the 3DS in Japan is in good shape with respect to America and EU. When the big titles come along it will explode



kopstudent89 on 05 July 2011

The rankings as of July 04, 2011 closed

[PS3] Tales of export Syria - 255pt (7)
[PSP] DX or pretend to be ~ ぽ Taiko no Tatsujin - 105pt (3)
[PSP] Limited Edition Black ★ Rock Shooter THE GAME "White Premium BOX" - 84pt
[PS3] Verusasu Final Fantasy XIII - 82pt
[PS3] Monster Hunter Portable 3rd HD Ver. - 78pt (1)
[PSP] Toriko Gourmet Survival! - 66pt (2)
[PS3] Armored Core 5 - 66pt (2)
[PS3] Dark Soul - 60pt (2)
[Wii] Inazuma Eleven Strikers - 57pt
[PS3] OG Super Robot Wars 2 - 56pt (1)
[PSP] BASARA Sengoku Heroes Chronicles - 54pt
[PSP] G Airu Village Diary warm Monhan - 49pt (1)
[PSP] Queen's Gate Spiral Chaos Edition - 48pt
[PS3] EARTH DEFENSE FORCE: INSECT ARMAGEDDON - 42pt (3)
[PS3] 2011 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball - 36pt (1)
[PSP] 2011 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball - 35pt (1)
[PSP] Queen's Gate Spiral Chaos Edition - 32pt (1)
[PSP] Limited Edition Complete Book of the Pik locus Hero - 31pt
[PSP] Final Fantasy Zero Expressions - 31pt
[PSP] To Aru Kagaku no Railgun (Limited Edition) - 30pt



leatherhat on 05 July 2011

What point totals did some of the other tales game this gen land at?



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