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ElGranCabeza said:
Boutros said:

So thesource predicted (again) in the new Japan Preview that Gran Turismo 5 will sell at around 500k week one.

That should settle some arguments here.

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/82366/the-japan-preview-1010-edition-pokemon-beats-new-releases/


It doesn't settle anything, or have you forgotten how often the preview has been completely off?

Not as off as your GT5 prediction will be



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Boutros said:
ElGranCabeza said:
Boutros said:

So thesource predicted (again) in the new Japan Preview that Gran Turismo 5 will sell at around 500k week one.

That should settle some arguments here.

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/82366/the-japan-preview-1010-edition-pokemon-beats-new-releases/


It doesn't settle anything, or have you forgotten how often the preview has been completely off?

It's not often completely off when it comes to software.

Anyway you're the one who wants GT5 to sell low so I don't expect you to agree.

It's been off plenty of times on HW AND SW, I'll go as far as to say that the preview is not a good measure for predicting sales.

I'll go as far as saying as using the preview's data is as bad as saying a COMG pre order = .5 in sales or something like that that you guys seem to wanna use.



darthdevidem01 said:
kopstudent89 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Boutros said:

So thesource predicted (again) in the new Japan Preview that Gran Turismo 5 will sell at around 500k week one.

That should settle some arguments here.

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/82366/the-japan-preview-1010-edition-pokemon-beats-new-releases/

That is acceptable though that means 1 million is probably out of the question.


But GT is quite leggy in japan. Dont forget this is the first real GT for the PS3! so i expect 1.2-1.3 mln LTD MINIMUM

I wouldn't say its incredibly leggy

GT3 WAS

but GT4 really wasn't that leggy at all.

And the problem is when GT3 came out PS2 sales were so high in Japan that as so many people were buying PS2's each week there was more of a chance for GT3  having legs..........GT5 won't have this with the PS3.

Another thing we have to see is that the franchise has been in consistent decline.

More than anyone I'd love for it to do 1 Million there....but I dunno :(

Still EU will be monstrous for it so I'm not worried at all.


GT3 sold more than GT2 in Japan so I wouldn't exactly say that the franchise is in consistent decline. I expect GT5 to sell as well as GT4 or slightly higher because it is releasing in November, and Japan's holidays last until mid-January which means the game is going to have legs until then because it is PS3's biggest title and will receive the most promotion out of its entire holiday lineup (which isn't very big anyway).



ElGranCabeza said:
Boutros said:
ElGranCabeza said:
Boutros said:

So thesource predicted (again) in the new Japan Preview that Gran Turismo 5 will sell at around 500k week one.

That should settle some arguments here.

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/82366/the-japan-preview-1010-edition-pokemon-beats-new-releases/


It doesn't settle anything, or have you forgotten how often the preview has been completely off?

It's not often completely off when it comes to software.

Anyway you're the one who wants GT5 to sell low so I don't expect you to agree.

It's been off plenty of times on HW AND SW, I'll go as far as to say that the preview is not a good measure for predicting sales.

I'll go as far as saying as using the preview's data is as bad as saying a COMG pre order = .5 in sales or something like that that you guys seem to wanna use.

It's a much better measure than the one you're using. Remember that you predicted GT5 to sell 500k LT and 300k FW "Max". That's a bad prediction. But it's okay.



darthdevidem01 said:
kopstudent89 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Boutros said:

So thesource predicted (again) in the new Japan Preview that Gran Turismo 5 will sell at around 500k week one.

That should settle some arguments here.

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/82366/the-japan-preview-1010-edition-pokemon-beats-new-releases/

That is acceptable though that means 1 million is probably out of the question.


But GT is quite leggy in japan. Dont forget this is the first real GT for the PS3! so i expect 1.2-1.3 mln LTD MINIMUM

I wouldn't say its incredibly leggy

GT3 WAS

but GT4 really wasn't that leggy at all.

And the problem is when GT3 came out PS2 sales were so high in Japan that as so many people were buying PS2's each week there was more of a chance for GT3  having legs..........GT5 won't have this with the PS3.

Another thing we have to see is that the franchise has been in consistent decline.

More than anyone I'd love for it to do 1 Million there....but I dunno :(

Still EU will be monstrous for it so I'm not worried at all.

or maybe first entry on the new console is always bought more than the second or third entry on the same console. . after all its a simulator, so second or third entry isnt going to change the thing too dramatically or give a new story line... its not like RPG or FPS like genre.. just a point of view.



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Hero_time88 said:

Also, a lot here say that MHIII sold great on the Wii, because it outsold the PS2 entries, which was before the "monster hunter boom" that happened during the PSP-era, but pretty much every analyst in Japan agrees that it underperformed, and that also is a game appeals to a wide audience, like kids, teenagers and adults there.

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Outside the crazy head of Famitsu (who also said DQIX underperformed, lol) who else in the JP industry has said MH3 underperformed?

Also, MH2 released after MHP.  And the best version of MH2 released after MHP2... so really, MH2 came alongside the PSP MH boom, yet that didn't translate to console sales either...



KillerMan said:

Actually MGS4 sold about the same amount as previous MGS games

MGS1: 781k

MGS2: 869k

MGS3: 831k

MGS4: 818k (still selling)

Wrong.

 

Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty

  • 832,719
  • 42,160 (Mega Hits!)
  • 147,541 Substance
  • 37,595 (Konami Collection)
  • 47,993 Substance (Konami Collection)
  • 52,679 (Metal Gear Collection)

 

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater

  • 819,807
  • 133,339 Subsistence
  • 52,679 (Metal Gear Collection)
  • 25,809 (Metal Gear 20th Anniversary)
  • 62,095 (The Best)

 

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

  • 706,641
  • 146,827 (The Best)

 

Metal Gear Solid (5): Peace Walker

  • 737,615 


M.U.G.E.N said:

lol wait 200k is good for a kirby game? then no worries....from all the comments of some of you I thought it was gonna be huge...my bad

sure 200k is totally possible then :)

and btw where is donkey kong? It's coming out this year in Jp as well right? or did I miss the news of it getting pushed to 2011


Kirby games never have big openings (they're all between 100-250k), they just tend to have insane legs.  I'm getting more pessimistic on Epic Yarn though, I think it's only going to do around 100k fw and maybe 600k lifetime.  Had HAL continued with Kirby GC/Wii, I think that'd have been a much bigger seller tbh.

Mario Collection is going to be HUGE though.  It's going to be a million seller, maybe more even...



^Well I've been saying that about Kirby for a long while now and I think the same thing is going to happen with DK although it will sell more than Kirby. Nintendo snobbed DK for too long now. It surely will have an effect on sales.



jarrod said:
KillerMan said:

Actually MGS4 sold about the same amount as previous MGS games

MGS1: 781k

MGS2: 869k

MGS3: 831k

MGS4: 818k (still selling)

Wrong.

 

Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty

 

  • 832,719
  • 42,160 (Mega Hits!)
  • 147,541 Substance
  • 37,595 (Konami Collection)
  • 47,993 Substance (Konami Collection)
  • 52,679 (Metal Gear Collection)

 

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater

 

  • 819,807
  • 133,339 Subsistence
  • 52,679 (Metal Gear Collection)
  • 25,809 (Metal Gear 20th Anniversary)
  • 62,095 (The Best)

 

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

 

 

  • 706,641
  • 146,827 (The Best)

 

Metal Gear Solid (5): Peace Walker

 

  • 737,615 

It's still pretty close especially as MGS4 has only gotten one reprint so far.