It's good if people have forgotten Red Steel 1, as it left a foul taste in many people's mouths. The best thing about Red Steel 2 is that it looks nothing like Red Steel.
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A NSMB Wii 2 wouldn't cut the other one sales. Actually the opposite happened to NSMB DS. And SMB1, 2, 3 and 4 keep selling on the virtual console.
Above: still the best game of the year.
| DnE said: And the list of Ubisoft 2009 Wii titles:
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"Imagine: Fashion Party"? Thats creative genius lmao. Looks like Ubi and capcom have different approaches to the wii.
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It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler
It has probably been said elsewhere: Ubi - if you flood the market with trite crap, what did you expect? People tend to get savvy when they are burnt by poor product. Also how many pet / baby / fashion games can you shovel down peoples necks?
A lot of publishers say that the DS and Wii market has collapsed and are pulling back... This is nonsense.
You can develop Ninty quality on Wii games if you publishers do the following:
a.) Invest in more original / innovative IP that actually plays to the Wii/DS strengths.
b.) Pay a dev co a decent amount to develop a game. (Dev budgets are usually pitiful, esp. on DS)
c.) Give them enough time develop it and make it quality.
d.) Actually market it with a decent budget and stick it on TV. Don’t rely on conventional games sites and mags to get through to Wii/Ds owners. Don’t leave it to die and then bemoan the fact it didn’t sell.
e.) Don’t have crap box art. What is it with shite Wii box art?
If you don’t understand the market and can’t make a profit from an install base of 124m and 65m respectively, then sack your marketing people.
For their part, Nintendo could certainly be a hell of a lot more helpful with the submission process.
Retail can do their part by not filling the shelves with utter crap, and be more selective.
PS: People, please get it right when talking about devs. It’s usually the publisher that pushes this shite on poor dev co’s. Not the other way around. Dev’s generally have a pretty good idea about what’s going on. (Unless they have crap management that have their own bonkers ideas.) Trying to convince a publisher otherwise is difficult, and they need the work, so have to bend over and take what they can get.
Ubi Soft and other third parties really have no one to blame but themselves.
They also should cut back on Wii titles -- but make better Wii projects. Instead of 10-12 garbage games with maybe 1 half-decent game in the bunch, make 3-4 Wii games, but make them really good and put some actual marketing behind a couple of them.
Red Steel 2 looks good ... but this is coming what? 3+ years after the first one. Talk about missing the bus.
Good for Ubisoft. Hopefully they garner better sales
who cares ubisoft is responsible for at least 60% of wii shovelware this is a good thing. 
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theRepublic said:
It's not that we need exposure to their franchises, it's that they need exposure for their franchises. It is actually one of my pet theories as to why third parties have struggled so much on Nintendo consoles. Starting with the N64, third parties have left many of their biggest, most important franchises off of Nintendo consoles. Therefore, people who play mostly on Nintendo consoles will have zero loyalty to those franchises, and zero loyalty to those companies. Then, when something doesn't perform on the same level as on other consoles, they complain. The difference is that on those other consoles they have spent years and years and years building a fanbase, and just expect one to pop out of thin air on Nintendo consoles. (Contrast that with Nintendo, who has built a fanbase that will buy games almost without question. They trust Nintendo to deliver great games over and over again.) So now, with the Nintendo the winner, third parties are in trouble because the audience is not familiar with them. They have to win their trust from scratch (and so far, have been doing a terrible job at that). On the other hand, if third parties had given themselves more exposure on Nintendo consoles over the past two generations, I think they would be having a much easier time finding an audience right now. Granted, this theory is only meant to be one piece of the puzzle, and not the entire reason as to why third parties struggle with Nintendo consoles. |
This actually makes a lot of sense.
trestres said:
Great post and it makes a lot of sense. Really, when we compare the amount of big IP's the biggest 3rd parties put into each console, it's ridiculous to say Wii games don't sell, since there aren't any notable ones. Most of the old and new IP's are appearing on the HD consoles ONLY. Capcom is releasing Tatsunoko vs. Capcom in about 2 weeks, after that it is only bringing Sengoku Basara 3 in the future for the Wii, but they are giving the PS3 the superior version of the game with online play and HD graphics. Nothing else from them. Namco Bandai, well, they have nothing coming up for the Wii. EA has NBA Jam coming out for the Wii as an exclusive, but what else? The yearly iterations of their sports games, which are all inferior save for TigerWoods PGA Tour (which they might ditch thanks to his problems). Activision, besides their multiplatform music and peripheral games like DJ Hero or Tony Hawk's Ride, the only notable game they have coming up for the Wii is CoD 7, which will be inferior to their HD counterparts, like all of the previous CoD have been. Ubisoft has Red Steel 2 and NMH2 coming up, but after these, what else have they got? Their recent statements make it clear that not much, if anything notable will come out from their studios for the Wii. More Raving Rabbids milking? Just Dance 2? A movie tie in Prince of Persia game? |
Holy crap that is really, really depressing when looking at all those publisher releases side by side.
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Yes, and people actually believe Wii is getting good support this year. The amount of games coming out for the HD's is really overwhelming, no wonder why Wii fans cry when there's a 1st party game drought. Third parties are pathetic.
For the Wii it's a case of "Buy the only decent game we will release this year or forget about good support FOREVER!", meanwhile, these lousy and disgusting companies keep on releasing all their big guns on the HD consoles and flooding the Wii with garbage. I think their own garbage is killing the sales of their decent games, people just won't buy games from shovelware devs anymore. Plus the games they release on the Wii are nowhere as close to the ones they release on the HD consoles in terms of quality and budget. If the only game they release flops they blame the audience and just use that as an excuse for their incompetence.
HD owners have a lot to choose from, and they know 3rd parties have to make a great job for them to buy the game, meanwhile these companies keeping releasing turds and then in between a half decent game expecting it to shatter all records even when people know it will probably be terrible shovelware like most of the games the games they had released before. They shot themselves on their feet and are now blaming Nintendo and Wii owners for their lack of vision and terrible decisions. Good job.
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