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coolbeans said:
sabby_e17 said:
The gap will be 1 million by the end of 2010.

A 360 price cut WILL happen this year but thats the only thing holding PS3 back from from over taking the 360.

I'm bored so I feel like betting if you want to.


Lets do it.

Although if you're kind enough, I'm guessing you'd let me increase that number to 1.5 million.




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Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
^lack of profits, third place, certain failure of the wand (read disruption theory to understand why)

Take your pick carl

What do any of them have to do with how much PS3 will sell lifetime? Looks to me like your usual trolling...

Sales. Which are currently actually not inline with PS1, but above PS1... Which managed to sell over 100 Million units. Now, im not saying PS3 will hit the 100M milestone, but the future is indeed bright for the PS3.

Yet to hit a mass market price and still yet to see colours or its biggest exclusive. Also room for another redesign... And with 3D becoming pretty big and popular, it has that in the bag too.

Sorry Carl, but compare to PSP:

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PSP®1=All&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=PSP®3=All&weeks=240

PSP is higher than PS3 and is around 55 million, so PS3 has probably less potential than PSP in a best case scenario, since its undertracking the PSP, but even more problematic is the 360 is its competitor, so it has to face the fact that if 360 price drops, PS3's sales will drop off, so it probably has even less potential than the PSP overall.

PS3 is also limited by the fact that when the PS4 is announced, PS3 sales will drop off, as people will be looking to the next gen, so PS3 does have limits on how much it will sell which are clearly visible, and its nowhere near the PS1

Comparing a handheld with very little support and mas spiracy to a console with a fuck load of support and basicly no piracy... Okay, but hey! YOU gave me an idea.

Aligned launched eh? Comparing PS3 to PSP aligned? Just take a look at this graph.

As we can see, 360 has less potential than the PS3 and PSP... So PS3 will obviously finish up with more sales in the end. And when the next 360 is announced, 360 sales will drop off as people will be looking to the next gen or PS3.

Now please, bring your spin to this one, i find it amusing.



                            

Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
The reason PS3 caught up was because it matched the 360's price, if 360 price cuts, then it has price advantage and PS3 falls back behind like before

Matched the 360's price?

When did the PS3 become $199?

360 already has a $100 price advantage.

Nope, sorry when consumers compare, they compare the elite to the PS3 they don't include the arcade, the PS3 currently matches the elite in price, so that gives it the advantage, but that advantage will be gone as soon as the 360 gains price advantage.


I think you're forgetting the fact that the 360 will get a price cut around September and when it does get a price cut, it'll most likely be a $50 cut.

And even with that cut, Europe will still be in PS3's favour by a decent margin.




haha i like this site, its full of fanboys, fanboys are funny, i usuallly come to see the numbers and read some comments, i think the ps3 will outsell the xbox 360 ltd by alot , even after the ps4 is released the ps3 will be selling well



coolbeans said:
sabby_e17 said:
coolbeans said:
sabby_e17 said:
The gap will be 1 million by the end of 2010.

A 360 price cut WILL happen this year but thats the only thing holding PS3 back from from over taking the 360.

I'm bored so I feel like betting if you want to.


Lets do it.

Although if you're kind enough, I'm guessing you'd let me increase that number to 1.5 million.

That's fine.


So now what?




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I think alot of people are still underestimating the future impact of GT5 in Japan & Others.



Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
The reason PS3 caught up was because it matched the 360's price, if 360 price cuts, then it has price advantage and PS3 falls back behind like before

Matched the 360's price?

When did the PS3 become $199?

360 already has a $100 price advantage.

Nope, sorry when consumers compare, they compare the elite to the PS3 they don't include the arcade, the PS3 currently matches the elite in price, so that gives it the advantage, but that advantage will be gone as soon as the 360 gains price advantage.


wow!!!  OMG Hold on everybody Avinash_Tyagi is the all seeing, all dancing, and all knowing CONSUMER!!!   He knows exactly what every single consumer in the world is thinking and how they compare products!  And omg, he's here on vgchartz to grace us with his almighty presence...



Meh it depends on how the companies decide to act in the future. The gap sorta swings back and forth after price cuts so maybe Microsoft could try to widen the lead again with another price cut. Realistically, I don't really expect the PS3 to ever get ahead but it could get close.



Avinash_Tyagi said:
^lack of profits, third place, certain failure of the wand (read disruption theory to understand why)

Take your pick carl

Only lack of profits has any potential relevance here. And PS3 turning a profit on HW this year would become a reason for Sony to try to keep going with PS3 as long as possible, not ditch it for another system, which they will probably need to sell for a modest loss for a couple of years.

Sony would do more damage to its reputation if PS3 had a shorter lifespan (as the latest Sony console) than 360. People bought the most expensive game console and they get less life out of it than 360 or Wii? If there was one way to guarantee further desertion from the PS brand it would be this. Sony's got to bring people back to Playstation and putting out a PS4 too early isn't going to do it.

 



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Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
The reason PS3 caught up was because it matched the 360's price, if 360 price cuts, then it has price advantage and PS3 falls back behind like before

Matched the 360's price?

When did the PS3 become $199?

360 already has a $100 price advantage.

Nope, sorry when consumers compare, they compare the elite to the PS3 they don't include the arcade, the PS3 currently matches the elite in price, so that gives it the advantage, but that advantage will be gone as soon as the 360 gains price advantage.

Can you prove the red? Or is it you spouting more of your rubbish?

i can prove that the 360 entry level is $199, and the PS3 entry level is $299.

I can also prove that Microsoft heavily advertise that $199 pricepoint too.