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Yeah i do believe it will be big.



 

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TheSource said:

Didn't they say in 2007 that they had the best gaming lineup of all time? Then they were essentially beaten by Wii Play, Mario Galaxy, Guitar Hero III, and Mario & Sonic...

In terms of quality the Wii gets owned by both HD consoles (individually, and certainly combined) as a matter of routine each year.  For the Xbox 360 that has been since the Wii's inception in my opinion, for the PS3, since 2008.

The Wii just doesn't have the high quality third party support necessary to compete in the quality stakes.



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though MS says this every year, I'm inclined to agree this time around. Bayonetta, Darksiders and Mass Effect 2 in the first month of the year? Lost Planet, Bioshock 2, Final Fantasy XIII, Alan Wake, Halo Reach, Splinter Cell, Crackdown 2, Fable 3, Sonic and Sega all-star racing, Resoance of Fate, Super Street Fighter IV, Dead Rising 2, Metal Gear Rising, Sonic (Project Needlemouse), Rage, and last but not least, CASTLEVANIA LORD OF SHADOWS!

Oh yeah and a much improved port of one of the greatest N64 games ever, Perfect Dark.

2010 will easily be the best year MS has ever had in gaming. I'm really hyped about it.



^^Not to mention all the games that should be announced at E3. Looks like MS will have their biggest year indeed.



         

TheSource said:

Didn't they say in 2007 that they had the best gaming lineup of all time? Then they were essentially beaten by Wii Play, Mario Galaxy, Guitar Hero III, and Mario & Sonic...

           Wow.....I didnt expect a comment like that from you............

           Well, everyone is entitled to a (foot in mouth) moment.  I have had plenty. 



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"Didn't they say that..."

I probably explained this the wrong way, but my point was if you say this every year and most people keep choosing other content year after year it probably isn't a valid statement. Capitalism tends to sort things pretty quickly. People aren't idiots. They don't like wasting their money, and they certainly wouldn't waste it year after year after year. That 2007 statement just looks ludicrous to me because there is no wide-spread objective measure of game quality in this industry, and there never has been frankly simply because reviews are dependent on the talent of the reviewers as gamers, as opposed to movie reviewers, music reviewers or book reviewers.

The vast majority of people don't give a damn what I or some other guy on the internet says, or even what meta-critic says about some lineup of games and so those services work as echo chambers for people with a certain skill-level - its not an affirmation of near universal quality that everyone can enjoy. Most people just ask their friends, rent titles first, or look at the game box.

If you accept that as how most purchasing decisions are made, then the Wii attach rate and X360 attach rates make more sense. Through September 2009, Wii SW / Wii System was 7.7/system, while X360 SW / X360 System was 8.7/system. You can say alot of the Wii sw is from Wii Sports. But X360 has had numerous sw bundled too. If you factor that in you get ~6.9 Wii games/system against ~8.4 X360 games/system. Factor in the years on the market - three for Wii, and four X360 and the game purchasing rate for Wii/year is actually higher than on X360/year. 8.4/4 = 2.1 games per year, 7/3 = 2.3 games per year - both excluding bundles and those ratios are with the Wii software market being larger.

 



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will definitely buy ME2, Alan Wake, NATAL, Fable 3, and Final Fantasy XIII so yeah this would be the most expensive year for xbox 360.



TheSource said:

"Didn't they say that..."

I probably explained this the wrong way, but my point was if you say this every year and most people keep choosing other content year after year it probably isn't a valid statement. Capitalism tends to sort things pretty quickly. People aren't idiots. They don't like wasting their money, and they certainly wouldn't waste it year after year after year. That 2007 statement just looks ludicrous to me because there is no wide-spread objective measure of game quality in this industry, and there never has been frankly simply because reviews are dependent on the talent of the reviewers as gamers, as opposed to movie reviewers, music reviewers or book reviewers.

The vast majority of people don't give a damn what I or some other guy on the internet says, or even what meta-critic says about some lineup of games and so those services work as echo chambers for people with a certain skill-level - its not an affirmation of near universal quality that everyone can enjoy. Most people just ask their friends, rent titles first, or look at the game box.

If you accept that as how most purchasing decisions are made, then the Wii attach rate and X360 attach rates make more sense. Through September 2009, Wii SW / Wii System was 7.7/system, while X360 SW / X360 System was 8.7/system. You can say alot of the Wii sw is from Wii Sports. But X360 has had numerous sw bundled too. If you factor that in you get ~6.9 Wii games/system against ~8.4 X360 games/system. Factor in the years on the market - three for Wii, and four X360 and the game purchasing rate for Wii/year is actually higher than on X360/year. 8.4/4 = 2.1 games per year, 7/3 = 2.3 games per year - both excluding bundles and those ratios are with the Wii software market being larger.

 

I dunno man, lots of movies and books are dependent on the comprehension levels of those reading and watching. I don't think sales dictates what's the best made product, there are too many other factors when it comes to sales, advertising being a key component. It all comes down to personal opinion so MS can keep making this statement forever. It helps that the people who read these kinds of statements often agree that 360 has the best lineup.



Cheebee said:
Ah look at 'em all go at each other, this'll be fun to watch.

Lol@ the bans.

Before everyone jumped down TheSource's throat, they could have explained what they took "biggest year in history" to mean.  I also took it to mean sales.  In which case he's right, the Wii's lineup has been far "bigger".  Then we have the quality arguments...oy vay.  You can love you 360 games all you want, that doesn't mean most people will agree.  



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No I don't think so, The 360 has a lot of shooter fans, Natal will do nothing for shooters. Halo Reach will not sale 10 copies for a very long time ,If it ever does. Alan Wake will be average. Splinter cell Conviction will be a good game , but ounce again It won't sale over 3 million copies for a long time. They have a few others but nothing hugh other then Reach. Natal will do OK for certain games but its not going to be the 360 savier like they think. 360 will have a all around average year.