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predict the sales of the wii, ps3 and x360 this year.

agree with my estimates 45 49.45%
 
disagree 46 50.55%
 
Total:91

i dont think the wii vitality will sell at all its so stupid. it probably wont sell a million units.



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

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hudsoniscool said:
i dont think the wii vitality will sell at all its so stupid. it probably wont sell a million units.

yeah your probably right, curses



Gaming make me feel GOOD!

Ok well I tried to calculate monthly sales based on momentum, generation declines and key launches that I am aware of and a few predictions on possible price cuts etc. With those numbers come these:

Wii:

18.1 Million

 

PS3:

12.3 Million

 

XBOX 360:

9.55 Million

 

Nintendo DS:

24.7 Million

 

PSP:

6.75 Million

 

I feel I may be a touch high on DS and a touch low on 360 but there are too many unknowns so I'm going with these predictions.



 

c0rd said:

I'll throw some quick guesses I suppose. Tough when we have so little info to go by, but here goes:

Wii - 21.5mil
No doubt the Wii had its best December this year, but it had a horrific Q2-Q3. From the beginning of April to the end of September, it sold only slightly more than 5mil, or ~210k/wk (in 2008 it did over 9mil). I expect the Wii to be nearly flat in Q1, but up significantly Q2-Q3 on the strength of 09's evergreens, $200 price point, and 2010's new releases. It'll be down in Q4, but with help from Wii Vitality / Zelda, it will manage to maintain its sales lead YoY.

X360 - 10.5mil
The 360 will perform worse than its 2009 during most of the year, but will shine in the final quarter (similar to 2008). With Natal, a potential price cut, and Halo Reach, its Q4 will be monstrous, over 5 million total. It will finish the year in a stronger position than the PS3 for early 2011, slowly reclaiming the ground it lost in early 2010.

PS3 - 11.5mil
The PS3 will have a very strong lead early next year, on the strength of the recent "Slim," $100 price cut, and the releases of GT5 / God of War 3. All of this combined may cut the 360 lead down to as little as 3mil, as it'll be up YoY as high as 30% until September. From late Q3 on, the PS3 will start to see major YoY losses, particularly in Americas/Japan, due to lack of a price cut and stronger 360 sales.

Even if we do not know all the games for 2010 or even none for the Wii, I would go pretty much agree with your estimates (I only see the Wii even higher). I think NSMB, WSR and Wii Fit Plus will carry the Wii for quite a while, meaning Q1-2 will be up. Q3 will be up as well, because Q309 was very low. We will have to see for Q4 2010, but with games like Zelda and Metroid it is possible to equal 2009´s numbers there. I think the PS3 can keep up its momentum as well, therefore closing the gap between the PS3 and x360 further.

Wii: 24mil

PS3: 13mil

X360: 10mil



Mummelmann said:
Only dropped 2 million? That's quite a lot you know, what's to keep it from dropping further yoy? Wii Motion +, a price cut, NSBWii, Wii Sports Resort, limited edition colors were supposed to make it drastically rise yoy in 2009 but instead it went down by 9-10%. The Challenger was also on its way up when it left the ramp but that didn't go so well (to put in bluntly and exaggerate a little), it is quite naive to think that the momentum from NSMBWii will drive hardware sales several million up compared to last year, it'd be pure magic.

"You keep saying you want to know, this is why, your prediction has no basis whatsoever", what does this sentence even mean? What does my wanting you to point out where and how I've been incredibly stupid and "funny" all along have to do with my current predictions? I don't think I've been that stupid and funny at all actually and I made some pretty solid predictions for 2009 that came true. If you want to render all my points moot you'll have to show the world how silly my predictions are and have always been, simply saying "lol, ur so silly" is, well, silly.

PS: I don't care when you update, I just don't see the difference is all.


  It'll still have NSMB Wii next year, and Wii motion plus and the lower price and will have the vitality sensor and a lot of new games next year, so what is your point?  All the factors that boosted sales in the end of the year in 2009 will still be in effect in 2010, heck NSMB Wii will probably sell more in 2010 than it did in 2009.

What evidence do you have that it will take a five million plunge when nothing historically supports your view?

I have already shown why your prediction is silly, because it has no basis or support, you'll have to show some reason why it'll fall 5 million, more than 20%, this year.



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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hudsoniscool said:
i dont think the wii vitality will sell at all its so stupid. it probably wont sell a million units.

That's what they said about Wii fit



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Avinash_Tyagi said:
Mummelmann said:
Only dropped 2 million? That's quite a lot you know, what's to keep it from dropping further yoy? Wii Motion +, a price cut, NSBWii, Wii Sports Resort, limited edition colors were supposed to make it drastically rise yoy in 2009 but instead it went down by 9-10%. The Challenger was also on its way up when it left the ramp but that didn't go so well (to put in bluntly and exaggerate a little), it is quite naive to think that the momentum from NSMBWii will drive hardware sales several million up compared to last year, it'd be pure magic.

"You keep saying you want to know, this is why, your prediction has no basis whatsoever", what does this sentence even mean? What does my wanting you to point out where and how I've been incredibly stupid and "funny" all along have to do with my current predictions? I don't think I've been that stupid and funny at all actually and I made some pretty solid predictions for 2009 that came true. If you want to render all my points moot you'll have to show the world how silly my predictions are and have always been, simply saying "lol, ur so silly" is, well, silly.

PS: I don't care when you update, I just don't see the difference is all.


  It'll still have NSMB Wii next year, and Wii motion plus and the lower price and will have the vitality sensor and a lot of new games next year, so what is your point?  All the factors that boosted sales in the end of the year in 2009 will still be in effect in 2010, heck NSMB Wii will probably sell more in 2010 than it did in 2009.

What evidence do you have that it will take a five million plunge when nothing historically supports your view?

I have already shown why your prediction is silly, because it has no basis or support, you'll have to show some reason why it'll fall 5 million, more than 20%, this year.

It will fall because, like I already pointed out, it did last year despite Nintendo's very best efforts to prevent it. They shaved of 20% of the price and launched all their killer apps to no avail and even though NSMBWii boosted the sales it didn't properly kick in and pull the record number until the very last week before christmas and you seriously can't expect one game alone to keep the sales fueled for months and months on end in the slow parts of the year while we get news and confirmation from key 3rd party developers weekly that they're either pulling or decreasing support. Nintendo themselves had to lower their fiscal projection by quite a bit and will still probably fail to meet it at this rate, another telltale sign that they bit off more than they could chew when they assumed they'd keep on having record selling years (they were becoming every bit as arrogant as the competition, thinking one first party title now and then would satisfy the thirsty market in the long run).

With games like Call of Duty: Reflex and Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles selling less than stellar, more developers will start doing a Capcom, or a Sega if you will and say "No way Jose, this won't work." and that does not bode well even for a market leader that has broken records this gen. The sales of Wii Fit Pluss, that also held the most eagerly anticipated peripheral since the board itself moved only half Wii Fit's numbers first week worldwide and has consistently sold a lot less than the first one despite the higher installed base and the market already being cracked open, in the same turn going against the age old truth that sequels generally sell more. Things are slowing down, there is no denying it, the Blue Ocean is a hostile place unless you ripple the waves every now and then and many of the trumph cards turned sour last year (Animal Crossing, Motion Pluss, Wii Fit Pluss, Colors and price cut to name a few) and proved unable to not only increase hardware sales but prevent them from dropping significantly. The Wii beat its own 1st quarter from 2008 in 09 which goes to show just how much of an impact the last two quarters had when it not only managed to lose that head start on its own numbers but even went down yoy by 2 million or so.

Now, would you please tell why your predictions hold more merit? Especially when viewed in context with your own predictions that keep crashing hard, I don't think anyone in here holds your credibility over mine and wishful thinking alone can't make a difference no matter how much you want it to. I don't mind you calling me a moron or thinking my predictions are silly but I do mind when you claim to have such insight and manage to fall into pit after pit, failing to predict a single thing even halfway right and then start pointing fingers at those who disagree on the grounds that "lol, they're silly."



Except Nintendo's best efforts borught it up year on year for December, so your argument is flawed mummel.

Wii is entering 2010 with a strong surge of momentum and will not only have the continued push from NSMB Wii but also the lineup this year including the vitality sensor, so like I said your argument is flawed.

Why do my arguments hold more weight simple, first off I'm going off history, nothing shows a drop from 22 million to 17 million is possible, especially when momentum is growing, not shrinking for a console.

Now you have to show why I should hld any weight on your arguments, when they are so badly flawed, it doesn't matter if it took until the end of the year to do so, the fact is, its back up year on year for the month of December, NSMB Wii shows no signs of dying off, and its lineup in 2010 looks far stronger, with the presence of Wii vitality sensor



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

The extreme momentum Sports Resort, Wii Motion +, Wii Fit +, colors and price cut was going to yield didn't happen. NSMBWii helped it a lot in December but all the other factors did little to nothing in september, october and november. The immense 3rd party support that was sure to arrive has also failed to show and the opposite is happening now, its all going backwards. I made a pretty good case in my last post and don't feel the need to repeat myself, especially since I know that you and I will never agree on anything.

Time will show, we've both been wrong before and I don't mind that you find my predictions silly at all, just don't pretend that yours are any better.



Wii - 16-18 mln.
PS3 - 16-18 mln.
x360 - 7-8 mln.