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Forums - Sales Discussion - Analyst - PS3 to see 10% GAIN in 2010, Wii60 to DECLINE! (Wii 20%, 360 5%)

I think first 3 months of 2010 is going to tell lot of things for 2010. Its not going to be certainly change drastically in the holiday season like it has been in the last two yrs.



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Sephiroth357 said:
No this analyst is stupid.

Wii can't possible decline anymore.

So, you also question all PS3s YLODing and taking out all 360s and Wiis causing a market to crash?  Aren't analysts perfect at predicting these things?

 



darthdevidem01 said:

PS3 to See 10% Gain in 2010 as Wii and Xbox 360 Decline, says Analyst

With 2010 now underway, analysts are looking ahead to make projections for the full calendar year. Wii sales in 2009 started to decline significantly in the second half, until the December holiday surge. Satoru Iwata believes the console has "recovered," but if you ask Lazard Capital Markets analyst Colin Sebastian, that holiday momentum won't last. He's forecasting a 20% decline in unit sales for the Wii this year.

"One key takeaway from the holiday period is that there is ample demand for console hardware at reduced price points. Not only did Nintendo’s Wii benefit from a reacceleration in unit sales at lower price points ($149 in many stores), but PS3 sell-through is improving and the Xbox 360 is maintaining momentum. While not surprising that the Wii disproportionately sold more units in 4Q, as it remains a popular gift item, the recently reported 3+ million units sold in December exceeded our expectations. However, we remain cautious in modeling follow-on Wii sales in 2010," he said.

"For the year, we are currently modeling a 10% increase in PS3 unit sales, Xbox 360 unit sales down 5%, and a 20% decline in Nintendo Wii unit sales. There is upside potential to our estimates with further hardware price reductions. At this point, we expect the console-installed base to increase by roughly 25% to 70 million units, and above the 57 million console units installed of the last generation platforms at the end of 2005."

With an increasing interest in HDTVs and a solid software lineup for Sony's console, we'd expect the PS3 to have a great year in 2010. The Wii, on the other hand, may need to incorporate another price drop to $149 to further entice consumers.

NOTE: This seems to be for american market only

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http://www.industrygamers.com/news/ps3-to-see-10-gain-in-2010-as-wii-and-xbox-360-decline-says-analyst/

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Will analysts actually be correct for the first time ever this gen?

Will this scenario be replicated in other regions apart from America?

Will the wii instead blow past its 2009 figures?

Will PS Motion & NATAL skew these predictions massively?

Will dogs rule the world?

DISCUSS!

So massive gains for Wii and huge declines for PS3 in 2010 confirmed



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

NPD says PS2's best year in the states was 8.39 million, I think

Going to be interesting. If the Wii doeos fall beneath that number, it will probably be the first time.



Sebastian was the same guy who thought MW2 would sell 20 million, ROFL, now its getting slaughtered by mario



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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JWS said:
After seeing how well the analysts predicted this gen of consoles, I have a tough time taking anything they say serious.

Everytime i see one of these articles it reminds me of the 2006 gamespot april fools day article.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6146958.html

It just shows how litte they know of what will happen in the future.

It is interesting how sometimes joke predictions end up more accurate than serious one.  Consider this one from 2001 in Onion, regarding the last American president:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784

Bush: 'Our Long National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity Is Finally Over'

January 17, 2001

WASHINGTON, DC–Mere days from assuming the presidency and closing the door on eight years of Bill Clinton, president-elect George W. Bush assured the nation in a televised address Tuesday that "our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity is finally over."

"My fellow Americans," Bush said, "at long last, we have reached the end of the dark period in American history that will come to be known as the Clinton Era, eight long years characterized by unprecedented economic expansion, a sharp decrease in crime, and sustained peace overseas. The time has come to put all of that behind us."

 



richardhutnik said:

 

JWS said:
After seeing how well the analysts predicted this gen of consoles, I have a tough time taking anything they say serious.

Everytime i see one of these articles it reminds me of the 2006 gamespot april fools day article.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6146958.html

It just shows how litte they know of what will happen in the future.

It is interesting how sometimes joke predictions end up more accurate than serious one.  Consider this one from 2001 in Onion, regarding the last American president:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784

Bush: 'Our Long National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity Is Finally Over'

January 17, 2001

WASHINGTON, DC–Mere days from assuming the presidency and closing the door on eight years of Bill Clinton, president-elect George W. Bush assured the nation in a televised address Tuesday that "our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity is finally over."

"My fellow Americans," Bush said, "at long last, we have reached the end of the dark period in American history that will come to be known as the Clinton Era, eight long years characterized by unprecedented economic expansion, a sharp decrease in crime, and sustained peace overseas. The time has come to put all of that behind us."

 

There was also an SNL skit done back in 2000 that turned out to be only a slight exaggeration about how bad the Bush years would be



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Avinash_Tyagi said:
richardhutnik said:

 

JWS said:
After seeing how well the analysts predicted this gen of consoles, I have a tough time taking anything they say serious.

Everytime i see one of these articles it reminds me of the 2006 gamespot april fools day article.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6146958.html

It just shows how litte they know of what will happen in the future.

It is interesting how sometimes joke predictions end up more accurate than serious one.  Consider this one from 2001 in Onion, regarding the last American president:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784

Bush: 'Our Long National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity Is Finally Over'

January 17, 2001

WASHINGTON, DC–Mere days from assuming the presidency and closing the door on eight years of Bill Clinton, president-elect George W. Bush assured the nation in a televised address Tuesday that "our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity is finally over."

"My fellow Americans," Bush said, "at long last, we have reached the end of the dark period in American history that will come to be known as the Clinton Era, eight long years characterized by unprecedented economic expansion, a sharp decrease in crime, and sustained peace overseas. The time has come to put all of that behind us."

 

There was also an SNL skit done back in 2000 that turned out to be only a slight exaggeration about how bad the Bush years would be

That's true.. Turns out SNL slightly underexaggerated how bad he actually was lol.



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

another "wii is doomed" analyst



Avinash_Tyagi said:
Sebastian was the same guy who thought MW2 would sell 20 million, ROFL, now its getting slaughtered by mario

MW 2 that has sold over 14 Million copies in 7 weeks? Probably closer (or over) to 15 Million if you add whatever has been sold on PC.

NMSB Wii has sold 8.6m in 6 weeks.

How is NSMB currently slaughtering MW2, exactly?