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Carl on 05 January 2010
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:

I don't really think WSR and WF+ are pushing the HW that much, i think the only siginificant boost is coming from NSMB. With the PS3's pretty big lineup in Q1/Q2, will NSMB be enough to get people choosing Wii over PS3? Sure, it has SMG2 in the early months... But as i said in the other thread, will it move significant hardware?

Someone, please... Wii lineup. It would make this conversation a lot easier

I think Galaxy 2 will drive about as much hardware as Yazkua 4 or Versus.

The real problem here is Nintendo's new ideology of holding back announcements until just before release (which is very much in contrast to Sony's or Microsoft's methodology).  We probably won't know the full Q1 lineup until Jan's retailer conference for example, and we currently have no clue for the rest of the year (maybe Galaxy 2 for Golden Week, Zelda for the holiday... and uh, not much else?).  Wii's fortunes could shift pretty fast if we're suddenly looking at MH3G, DQVII and Inazuma Break all within the year (all potential million sellers), which is honestly pretty likely considering everything we know now (DQ franchise migration/history, MH3 western release in Q2 & rumors, Inazuma rumors).  Then you also have Nintendo's lineup, though I'll admit 2010 isn't near as strong there as 2009, though this is somewhat mitigated by 2009's 2nd half evergreens versus the tepidness of 2008's 2nd half failed evergreens. 

Like I said before though, barring a surprise DQX holiday launch, NSMBWii will probably be 2010's best seller on consoles and drive significant hardware.  Hell, it even has a shot at outselling Yakuza 4, GT5 and Versus combined.

Probably. But what i'm trying to get at... Is it's just one game.

Lets hope they announce some big stuff this month then. Any ideas when the conference is? At least after that we can judge what's going to happen a lot more clearly.

I don't think there is any doubt about NSMB being the best selling next year.



                            

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jarrod on 05 January 2010
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:

I don't really think WSR and WF+ are pushing the HW that much, i think the only siginificant boost is coming from NSMB. With the PS3's pretty big lineup in Q1/Q2, will NSMB be enough to get people choosing Wii over PS3? Sure, it has SMG2 in the early months... But as i said in the other thread, will it move significant hardware?

Someone, please... Wii lineup. It would make this conversation a lot easier

I think Galaxy 2 will drive about as much hardware as Yazkua 4 or Versus.

The real problem here is Nintendo's new ideology of holding back announcements until just before release (which is very much in contrast to Sony's or Microsoft's methodology).  We probably won't know the full Q1 lineup until Jan's retailer conference for example, and we currently have no clue for the rest of the year (maybe Galaxy 2 for Golden Week, Zelda for the holiday... and uh, not much else?).  Wii's fortunes could shift pretty fast if we're suddenly looking at MH3G, DQVII and Inazuma Break all within the year (all potential million sellers), which is honestly pretty likely considering everything we know now (DQ franchise migration/history, MH3 western release in Q2 & rumors, Inazuma rumors).  Then you also have Nintendo's lineup, though I'll admit 2010 isn't near as strong there as 2009, though this is somewhat mitigated by 2009's 2nd half evergreens versus the tepidness of 2008's 2nd half failed evergreens. 

Like I said before though, barring a surprise DQX holiday launch, NSMBWii will probably be 2010's best seller on consoles and drive significant hardware.  Hell, it even has a shot at outselling Yakuza 4, GT5 and Versus combined.

Probably. But what i'm trying to get at... Is it's just one game.

Lets hope they announce some big stuff this month then. Any ideas when the conference is? At least after that we can judge what's going to happen a lot more clearly.

I don't think there is any doubt about NSMB being the best selling next year.

Conference is usually middle of the month iirc.  They're monthly btw, but don't usually get publicized unless something major is announced.

I think we have a pretty idea of Q1 though, I don't really anticipate much changing (though March should fill out some more).  I think Nintendo's going with the same plan they had last year, Q4 releases pushing Q1.  Didn't work last year was the problem.

 

Q2 is still a big mystery though, for both Wii and PS3 really.  I'm not sure what "big" stuff we'll see, Wii side I think Galaxy 2 and MH3G, not sure about PS3?

 



saicho on 05 January 2010
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:

I don't really think WSR and WF+ are pushing the HW that much, i think the only siginificant boost is coming from NSMB. With the PS3's pretty big lineup in Q1/Q2, will NSMB be enough to get people choosing Wii over PS3? Sure, it has SMG2 in the early months... But as i said in the other thread, will it move significant hardware?

Someone, please... Wii lineup. It would make this conversation a lot easier

I think Galaxy 2 will drive about as much hardware as Yazkua 4 or Versus.

The real problem here is Nintendo's new ideology of holding back announcements until just before release (which is very much in contrast to Sony's or Microsoft's methodology).  We probably won't know the full Q1 lineup until Jan's retailer conference for example, and we currently have no clue for the rest of the year (maybe Galaxy 2 for Golden Week, Zelda for the holiday... and uh, not much else?).  Wii's fortunes could shift pretty fast if we're suddenly looking at MH3G, DQVII and Inazuma Break all within the year (all potential million sellers), which is honestly pretty likely considering everything we know now (DQ franchise migration/history, MH3 western release in Q2 & rumors, Inazuma rumors).  Then you also have Nintendo's lineup, though I'll admit 2010 isn't near as strong there as 2009, though this is somewhat mitigated by 2009's 2nd half evergreens versus the tepidness of 2008's 2nd half failed evergreens. 

Like I said before though, barring a surprise DQX holiday launch, NSMBWii will probably be 2010's best seller on consoles and drive significant hardware.  Hell, it even has a shot at outselling Yakuza 4, GT5 and Versus combined.

Probably. But what i'm trying to get at... Is it's just one game.

Lets hope they announce some big stuff this month then. Any ideas when the conference is? At least after that we can judge what's going to happen a lot more clearly.

I don't think there is any doubt about NSMB being the best selling next year.

Conference is usually middle of the month iirc.  They're monthly btw, but don't usually get publicized unless something major is announced.

I think we have a pretty idea of Q1 though, I don't really anticipate much changing (though March should fill out some more).  I think Nintendo's going with the same plan they had last year, Q4 releases pushing Q1.  Didn't work last year was the problem.

 

Q2 is still a big mystery though, for both Wii and PS3 really.  I'm not sure what "big" stuff we'll see, Wii side I think Galaxy 2 and MH3G, not sure about PS3?

 

jarrod had a good point that Nintendo's plan to use Q4 releases to push Q1 and it didn't work last year since neither Wii Music nor Animal Crossing become the evergreen title Nintendo hoped. However, this year Nintendo has probably their biggest evergreen title in NSMBW (bigger than Wii Sports and Wii Fit) and one such game would be enough for Q1, or even Q2. Along with WSR and WF+, Nintendo should have a stronger Q1 in Japan this year even without any big game releases comparing to PS3.



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

Netyaroze on 05 January 2010

It will be close depending on the Wii releases. But there is still Gem which could be big if the right software is released. The Wii could win by a small margin by a huge margin or loose against the Ps3 nothing is sure yet. At the moment it looks like the PS3 has the better cards but a Zelda release in 2010 could change that if SMG2 will move as much consoles as GT5 or a possible FFvs13 dont know yet.

And I think heavy rain could have an impact on the japanese market. The Japanese like such games. HR could be big there and because of its uniqueness it could move a decent amount of Hardware if its a success there.

And FF14 could also be big in Japan there are too many unknowns. And Nintendo announce games and release them pretty quick as someone mentioned before.



saicho on 05 January 2010

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Where did you get the idea that Japanese market likes a game with Heavy Rain style? I don't think it's a game for Japanese market at all.



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

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Netyaroze on 05 January 2010

Lol I was expecting this question.

I read here on vgchartz following sentence:


"Visual novels are very popular in Japan. For some reason, people do not seem to be making the connection, but thats exactly what Heavy Rain is. Its a visual novel done in the west, with western budget and art and GFX. "



HR is an experimental game it could very well be a decent success for a western game if the Japanese accept this westernized style. They dont like FPS and most of the western stuff but maybe this ?

And I think it could even shift some hardware due to its uniqueness.

Its just an uknown factor yet we dont know how it will perform. Thats why I listed it. Its special and it could attract some people if it is what it could be.



saicho on 05 January 2010

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Visual novel games were very popular in Japan. The best selling Visual Novel game this gen is 428 on Wii which sold a little over 110K and the late port to PS3 sold 20K.



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

ps3_jrpg_gamer on 05 January 2010
jarrod said:
ps3_jrpg_gamer said:
jarrod said:

Inigo13 said:

The Slim released, a $100 price reduction, Tales of Vesperia, and Final Fantasy opened. Those are the major reasons the PS3 came somewhat close to the Wii.

No, PS3 also had a much stronger 1st half.  Yakuza 3, RE5, SF4 and the FFXIII demo (plus lots of bundles).  Wii's only "big" release meanwhile was an old PS2 port (MHG) and it's big 2008 releases failed to make evergreen status (Animal Crossing, Wii Music).


if MH3 have sold better everything would have turned out different Wii had munster hunter 3 this year which had great success on psp it can be compared to final fantasy and dragon quest but still no ones recongise monster hunter 3 a MEGA release that flopped

MH3 dramatically outsold the PS2 versions and it's a "flop".  So what does that make FFXIII? ;)


monster hunter became famous on psp not on ps2 so every moster hunter on psp sold extremely well and the series became popular at ff and DQ scale Wii has a powerful userbase but still i didn 't see anywhere near the success of psp titles and it has that huge 3 on it



johnsobas on 05 January 2010

well looks like nobody went in and did the math and posted it yet. Here you go this is approx the hardware for dec 21-27th. Better job than i originally thought vgchartz.

DS -262,000
Wii - 246,000
PS3 - 125,438
PSP - 112,000
360 - 7,200



currently playing: Skyward Sword, Mario Sunshine, Xenoblade Chronicles X

Solid_Snake4RD on 06 January 2010

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