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LordTheNightKnight on 03 January 2010
jlauro said:

3D doesn't halve the resolution, it doubles the refresh rate, so you need 120Mhz TV and game console.  In other words, most TVs being sold today can not handle it...

The next Wii capable of 120 FPS 1080p makes sense. That said, as long as Wii is selling more than 360 and PS3, it doesn't need to happen soon. Nintendo will milk the current customers as long as the wii is selling the best and no reason to release a new model unless the motion controls from Sony or Microsoft cause them to sell more than the Wii...

1. Wouldn't running games at 30fps do the trick?

2. Nintendo is not milking current customers. Theirs seeing how many customers they can creat with the Wii. The companies focusing on DLC are the current customer milkers.



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Azelover on 03 January 2010

3D is like... going to be super niche for home use...

If anything it may give people new reasons to go to a theater, but look making a new generation of consoles based on looks again, is going to backfire even more than last time.

If 3D is to next gen as HD was to this one, then Nintendo will have a monopoly. And no, they won't go for it, believe me.



Raze on 03 January 2010

Duont know i this would be a sound direction. Nintendo hasn't been much of an adopter of unproven visuals yet, thus why they waited this gen to see if HD was going to be successful. Hell, they haven't even adopted Dolby Digital audio yet, still using Pro Logic II. I doubt Nintendo would jump the gun graphically.



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JUG on 03 January 2010

I think it's the sort of thing Nintendo might jump at and I'm sure they'd come up with some innovative gameplay ideas, but the technology just isn't there yet. Nintendo isn't going to base their next console on expensive tech that only a fraction of the marketplace is going to be able to use. Maybe the gen after, for the Wii 3.... "D".



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gamelover2000 on 03 January 2010

im sorry but wasn't "3D dOmed"?



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Soleron on 03 January 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
jlauro said:

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1. Wouldn't running games at 30fps do the trick?

Technically yes, but it doesn't look good in the real world. Flickering.



lvader on 03 January 2010
jlauro said:

3D doesn't halve the resolution, it doubles the refresh rate, so you need 120Mhz TV and game console.  In other words, most TVs being sold today can not handle it...

The next Wii capable of 120 FPS 1080p makes sense. That said, as long as Wii is selling more than 360 and PS3, it doesn't need to happen soon. Nintendo will milk the current customers as long as the wii is selling the best and no reason to release a new model unless the motion controls from Sony or Microsoft cause them to sell more than the Wii...

 

The net effect is to halve the resolution (the image is blurred as it switches between 3D images), this is a well known fact and why 4k projection is prefered over 2k for 3D DCI.



Aquietguy on 03 January 2010
shams said:

Ok, I just saw Avatar today (3D version, and loved it completely). After thinking about it later, it finally hit me - and it was so obvious... its obvious.

The common conception was that the "Wii" would be followed by the "Wii HD". Nintendo stated it wouldn't happen - there is no obvious gameplay benefit to have HD over non-HD after all.

But at the same time - Nintendo would love an 'excuse' to put out an updated Wii sometime in the next year or two (think DS --> DSi). Any upgrade from here onwards, would be a soft upgrade - the Wii has been successful enough for them to keep riding on.

Yet at the same time - the Wii 'tech' is starting to look dated. Big games are now skipping the Wii - most of the obvious Wii ideas have been done. Nintendo will need something new soon, to refresh things...

...

Enter "3D".

A "Wii 3D" would be the perfect tonic - maybe for a Xmas '2011-12 release. And here is why:

 - the same way that motion controls defined gameplay changes for this generation, 3D would define the next set of gameplay changes. I can immediately think of ways to incorporate 3D into different gameplay models (think of a Super Paper Mario game).

 - 3D is coming anyway - and Nintendo would not want to miss out. Of all the consoles, the Wii is the only one that may really struggle with it technically

 - a Wii 3D would be completely backwards compatible (drop GC support though), but add support for enhanced 3D games. Like the DSi, it would be faster, have more RAM, more memory, etc.

 - "Wii 3D" launch titles: Nintendo could easily be working on a host of 3D launch titles for the system (Retro?). This is the biggest barrier to any new release from Nintendo these days. The new Zelda could easily be a launch title (while also working for the current Wii). And may be why we haven't seen a lot of new 'future' stuff from them.

 - easy marketing campaign, and selling point. It also means they don't look like jerks for not including HD with the Wii initially.

 - consoles can make 3D run on existing TVs (do not need a new TV AFAIK... ) - as long as people have the glasses.

 - its an easy excuse to refresh a lot of their IPs already out. Imagine a Vision Training game on the Wii for 3D, or an updated Mario Kart 3D.

...

Anyway, just some thoughts. I could be completely off the mark - but I do think a "Wii 3D" makes a lot more sense than a "Wii HD" refresh...

Its already possible on the wii.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw



lvader on 03 January 2010
Soleron said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
jlauro said:

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1. Wouldn't running games at 30fps do the trick?

Technically yes, but it doesn't look good in the real world. Flickering.

It depends on the display technology, something like LCD which uses sample and hold wouldn't flicker at 30fps.



kitler53 on 03 January 2010

screw the haters....avatar was amazing, 3D is a ton of fun, and i'll buy things based off of bringing that home. i spent 2 hours after watching avatar surfing the web for anything 3D related.