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theprof00 said:
Aion said:
No that is not the future. I hope this never goes mainstream.

You should watch the videos.

I really did not like the idea of onlive at first until I saw those videos. About 45 minutes to get through them all, but sit tight, it's worth it.

This shouldn't be seen as the end all and be all.  However, I do believe the technology will fill in an important niche.  Imagine the technology does take off and you could stream and play demos instantly on your videogame console or PC.  You could also play your favorite game on just about any platform, complete with the save games being there for you.

It is useful people see what the technology may be able to do, rather than combine the technology with a business model and end up hating it.



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richardhutnik said:
theprof00 said:
Aion said:
No that is not the future. I hope this never goes mainstream.

You should watch the videos.

I really did not like the idea of onlive at first until I saw those videos. About 45 minutes to get through them all, but sit tight, it's worth it.

This shouldn't be seen as the end all and be all.  However, I do believe the technology will fill in an important niche.  Imagine the technology does take off and you could stream and play demos instantly on your videogame console or PC.  You could also play your favorite game on just about any platform, complete with the save games being there for you.

It is useful people see what the technology may be able to do, rather than combine the technology with a business model and end up hating it.

seriously the possibilities are virtually endless.



When I play online shooters on the PC I expect a ping less than 80ms. 80-120ms is playable, but quite annoying. If the ping is over 120ms I quit.

I wonder where OnLive stands when it comes to ping.



Xen said:
Chris_Noctis said:
Xen said:
Chris_Noctis said:
Xen said:
It's not the future, it's the "death of".

Cloud computing, server hosting... all that is just not real, too easily vulnerable to problems... fuck it. I hope it fails and the entire company goes down with it - just so they don't come up with such shitty ideas again.

For Hitler!

Did I say anything that provokes such a stupid response?

Not at all,dont worry Xen.

Then why did you say it?

For Mussolini? :p



Make games, not war (that goes for ridiculous fanboys)

I may be the next Maelstorm or not, you be the judge http://videogamesgrow.blogspot.com/  hopefully I can be more of an asset than a fanboy to VGC hehe.

I wonder how there could be so many Asian people in the audience of that University where he held his presentation. Anyone got an idea?

Btw, that Perlman guy was presenting things too fast, he kept switching screens all the time back and forth very quickly. Was he on speed or something?



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RSEagle said:
I'm a very avid supporter of physical media as well, so I'll naturally oppose services like OnLive. However, the future doesn't look good with digital distribution continuing to grow stronger. I'd say in a generation or two, physical media for new release games will be phased out completely.

Not gonna happen. DD doesn't suit video games the way it suits music. People want to be able to hold their games in their hands, to sell crappy games back to the stores, and to collect retro games.



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KungKras said:
RSEagle said:
I'm a very avid supporter of physical media as well, so I'll naturally oppose services like OnLive. However, the future doesn't look good with digital distribution continuing to grow stronger. I'd say in a generation or two, physical media for new release games will be phased out completely.

Not gonna happen. DD doesn't suit video games the way it suits music. People want to be able to hold their games in their hands, to sell crappy games back to the stores, and to collect retro games.

gaming merchandise will always be available. Well, not always.

If this thing comes out this year, then I predict at least 2 more console generations. But in 15-20 years, when every household has a 10MB connection, this cloud processing will be the only thing there is.



theprof00 said:
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gaming merchandise will always be available. Well, not always.

If this thing comes out this year, then I predict at least 2 more console generations. But in 15-20 years, when every household has a 10MB connection, this cloud processing will be the only thing there is.

In 10 years, you'll be able to fit an high-end PC system of today in a 5W power envelope. A laptop or desktop under $300 would be able to play Crysis-level graphics. Since I believe game graphics will not progress much beyond today (too expensive), all the processing power any household needs will be very cheap, in a very small form factor and everyone will have one. Why would anyone then pay a subscription?



KungKras said:
RSEagle said:
I'm a very avid supporter of physical media as well, so I'll naturally oppose services like OnLive. However, the future doesn't look good with digital distribution continuing to grow stronger. I'd say in a generation or two, physical media for new release games will be phased out completely.

Not gonna happen. DD doesn't suit video games the way it suits music. People want to be able to hold their games in their hands, to sell crappy games back to the stores, and to collect retro games.

They said exactly the same of the movie and music industries too and they've grown hugely in terms of digital downloads much as DD is growing in the games industries. Steam, PSN, Live, and countless other digital distribution systems have been setup now. It's not like physical media will cease to exist, but as time goes on it will become more niche. For example, I don't know anyone that collects retro games, but I know plenty that will download them on WiiWare, PSN or general ROMs.



Soleron said:
theprof00 said:
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gaming merchandise will always be available. Well, not always.

If this thing comes out this year, then I predict at least 2 more console generations. But in 15-20 years, when every household has a 10MB connection, this cloud processing will be the only thing there is.

In 10 years, you'll be able to fit an high-end PC system of today in a 5W power envelope. A laptop or desktop under $300 would be able to play Crysis-level graphics. Since I believe game graphics will not progress much beyond today (too expensive), all the processing power any household needs will be very cheap, in a very small form factor and everyone will have one. Why would anyone then pay a subscription?

True, but there are other directions that tech and power can go to, like 3D (not sure how this'd effect OnLive). Just saying people and devs will come up with new ideas and innovations with the increase in power. And in answer to your question I'd point out millions are paying for X-box Live just for the privilage to play online multiplayer. If they bring out a small console form version of this which sells for cheap, a subscription based model could work as a lot of console only gamers are put off by PC gaming.

OT: I'm not sure I see this working soon, or OnLive the company being successful, but the tech could well be the future. I wouldn't be suprised if the 3 console manufacturers start experimenting with streaming games at the end of next gen. Devs and publishers would be especially happy because it would get rid of used game sales.