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Will the Wii pass the GCN in # of AAA titles?

Yes 97 50.52%
 
No 95 49.48%
 
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Seece on 01 January 2010
theRepublic said:
Seece said:
Khuutra said:
Carl2291 said:

Graphics don't always matter. They were all still compared sales-wise and games-wise, and were in the same generation. The difference with PS2 to GC + XB though, is PS2 had a ton of shovelware, but also had by far the most "AAA" and 90+ rated games of the generation. With the Wii to 360 +PS3, the 2 more powerful machines have by far the most "AAA" games and 90+ rated games.

Wii is in a different position than PS2. Mainly because of how much more powerful the other 2 consoles are in comparison. While last gen, the difference between the consoles wasn't too big, 3rd parties could make virtually the same game on all 3 consoles, the most powerful and the best selling. This gen, it is completely different. PS3 and 360 together are outselling the Wii, so there is a bigger marketshare for the more powerful consoles, which in turn... Moves dev's towards them for the big games. Assassin's Creed 2, Modern Warfare 2... Etc.

Another thing to blame, is how the Wii has been marketted. Nintendo are more to blame than anyone/anything else for the poor 3rd party support. The Wii, has been marketted as a party console played by the whole family. Thus, the majority of people who buy the console are the "expanded market"... It's hard to imagine that expanded market buying 5-6 Million+ copies of a game where you run around an Italian city assassinating random people

The majority of Wii owners, are in this "expanded market". That, coupled with the fact 360+PS3 > Wii in marketshare... Will move a lot of developers towards PS360 for the really big "AAA" games.

I know this is another conversation tree, Carl, but you saw what I said above, right? How it's hard to measure AAA games on a single system?

I have no idea how many the Wii has

9

Did you even read the thread?

I was answering the question, Wii has 9 AAA games.



 

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BTSaga on 01 January 2010
Seece said:
BTSaga said:
Seece said:
Carl2291 said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Carl2291 said:
Khuutra said:
Some people have missed my point

Quality itself is not an indicator of AAA status. Budget and marketing emphasis is.

Yes, Lair and Haze were AAA titles

That is how meaningless it is in reference to quality.

In that case, how many AAA games does the Wii actually have?

According to many people, only a handful made by Nintendo itself.  Since only Nintendo has been making games that would be considered on the level of games that could compete with the HD games.

But I think, since Wii isn't competing with the HD systems and is in its own category, it should be more of a measure of what constitutes a 'high quality' game for that system.  Is Tales of Symphonia 2 AAA? Madworld?

Personally, I'd definitely count Monster Hunter Tri.  Along with the recent Resident Evil outings, eventhough they're rail shooters.  Heck, for a Wii title, Muramasa is even bordering on the high quality level.  But most people won't count that simply because its a 2D game that was made by a small studio and didn't cost tons of money to make.  Its a question of what you think consists of 'AAA'.  'Quality' or 'Costs to develop'.

Red - Since when? They get sales compared, so games should also be compared.

Wait for it, he'll tell you it's out fault and HD fans are the ones spouting that it's not competition.

Fact of the matter is wii fans are touchy about metacritic because it just doesn't stack up ... thus they come out with a host of reasons why metacritic sucks.

just like HD fans are touchy whenever wii fans bring up sales, i guess nobody wins

TBH I don't think HD fans even acknowledge Wii sales around here anymore. They're just used to the Wii selling bucketloads, it's not exciting anymore

some just cant keep up with the times, like this guy http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3010715&page=2&postnum=3 still using 06 arguments against the wii



Seece on 01 January 2010
BTSaga said:
Seece said:
BTSaga said:

just like HD fans are touchy whenever wii fans bring up sales, i guess nobody wins

TBH I don't think HD fans even acknowledge Wii sales around here anymore. They're just used to the Wii selling bucketloads, it's not exciting anymore

some just cant keep up with the times, like this guy http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3010715&page=2&postnum=3 still using 06 arguments against the wii

Well that's just silly, tbh I don't think HD fans are touchy about the Wii selling loads, it's just the norm ... and at the end of the day it doesnt affect them as much as the wii not having as many AAA games affects wii owners. After all what's the saying "you can't play sales"



 

Khuutra on 01 January 2010
Seece said:
theRepublic said:
Seece said:

9

Did you even read the thread?

I was answering the question, Wii has 9 AAA games.

Oh, I see. You misunderstand.

I was responding to a question that Carl posed, which operated off of the definition of AAA as budget and return-related. Your answer - "9" - is based on Metacritic, which has nothing to do with the question Carl asked me.



Seece on 01 January 2010
Khuutra said:
Seece said:
theRepublic said:
Seece said:

9

Did you even read the thread?

I was answering the question, Wii has 9 AAA games.

Oh, I see. You misunderstand.

I was responding to a question that Carl posed, which operated off of the definition of AAA as budget and return-related. Your answer - "9" - is based on Metacritic, which has nothing to do with the question Carl asked me.

My bad I did misunderstand then, in which case I have no idea how many it has



 

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theRepublic on 01 January 2010
Khuutra said:
theRepublic said:
Seece said:
Khuutra said:

I know this is another conversation tree, Carl, but you saw what I said above, right? How it's hard to measure AAA games on a single system?

I have no idea how many the Wii has

9

Did you even read the thread?

Wait, that had a meaning? I thought it was a miss-post

Yes, it is the number of 90+ games on Metacritic.  Seece is equating that with AAA.

EDIT: Beat me to it.



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Carl on 01 January 2010
theRepublic said:
Carl2291 said:

Another thing to blame, is how the Wii has been marketted. Nintendo are more to blame than anyone/anything else for the poor 3rd party support.

You know who I blame for poor third party support?

Third parties.

Crazy concept, isn't it?

Maybe "more to blame" was a bit extreme. I should have said "as much to blame".

But the point still stands. Nintendo's marketting of Wii is a major part of why it gets a whole bunch of shovelware compared to very few top quality games.



                            

Khuutra on 01 January 2010

Don'tchu ignore me, Carl

I will get like super loud



Carl on 01 January 2010

Give me time, i just got back online!



                            

killeryoshis on 01 January 2010
-ku- said:
Omega_Phazon_Pirate. said:
I consider NSMBW an AAA title yet it just lacks below 90 because of some sour whiny reviewers.

Honestly the game doesnt even feel better then ratchet and clank its too conservative nothing new.

 

How come all other sequel that add so little to the genre get lower scores than their predescessors but god forbid the Leading Franchise on the Nintendo systems not be an exception

@green
Too consturtive,Nouthing new? Nouthing new?!? Are you telling me that NSMBW got low scores for doing nouthing new?
%$#&$^$! Tell me at all of the GC titles which actually do new things? What other sequals do new things tell us

@Blue
I'm not completely understanding here. Though I think your saying that nintendo games get high scores even though they
they add nouthing new. Though others get lower when they do it.<---I'll anwser to this

No that logic FAILS. Nintendo sequals are far and few from each other. The only nintendo games that were close was Metroid Prime 1&2
Also Mario Galaxy 1&2 . Also very few nintendo games are more of the same



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